Wales vs England Junior World Cup Final 2013.

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SUNDAY 23 JUNE - KO 17:45 - Stade de la Rabine in Vannes FRANCE
 


Coverage -


Sky Sports 2 - 17:30 - 20:00
TG4 - 17:35 - 19:37
S4C - 17:35 – 19:37

Referee: Mike Fraser (New Zealand)

Assistant Referees: Andrew Lees (Australia), Mathieu Noirot (France)


Wales:
Jordan Williams (Scarlets/Llanelli); Ashley Evans (Ospreys/Bridgend), Steffan Hughes (Scarlets/Llanelli), Jack Dixon (Dragons), Hallam Amos (Dragons/Newport); Sam Davies (Ospreys/Swansea), Rhodri Williams (Scarlets/Llandovery); Gareth Thomas (Scarlets/Carmarthen Quins), Elliot Dee (Dragons/Bedwas), Nicky Thomas (Ospreys/Swansea), Carwyn Jones (Scarlets/Carmarthen), Rhodri Hughes (Ospreys/Swansea), Jack Jones (Ospreys/Rovigo), Ieuan Jones (Dragons/Newport), Ellis Jenkins (capt, Blues/Cardiff).

Replacements:
Ethan Lewis (Blues/Cardiff), Thomas Davies (Blues/Cardiff), Dan Suter (Ospreys/Bridgend), James Benjamin (Dragons/Bedwas), Daniel Thomas (Scarlets/Llanelli), Joshua Davies (Dragons/Bedwas), Owen Jenkins (Blues/Pontypridd), Thomas Pascoe (Blues/Pontypridd).



England:
Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs); Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby), Harry Sloan (Harlequins), Sam Hill (Exeter Chiefs), Ben Howard (Worcester Warriors); Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs), Alex Day (Northampton Saints); Alec Hepburn (London Wasps), Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs), Scott Wilson (Newcastle Falcons); Tom Price (Leicester Tigers), Dominic Barrow (Leeds Carnegie), Ross Moriarty (Gloucester Rugby), Matt Hankin (Saracens), Jack Clifford (Harlequins) (capt).

Replacements:
Scott Spurling (Saracens), Danny Hobbs-Awoyemi (Northampton Saints), Tom Smallbone (London Irish), Harry Wells (Leicester Tigers), David Sisi (Bath Rugby), Callum Braley (Bristol Rugby), Ollie Devoto (Bath Rugby), Henry Purdy (Leicester Tigers).


What a fantastic semi final stage to lead to this great finale to the annual Junior comp.


Wales and England me in the finale of the Six Nations where England's massive and talented pack tore Waes apart exploiting their weakness at scrum. The Welsh lads seem to have improved their scrum massively and tonight took SA to pieces at the scrum.

It is wonderful to see two NH teams in the final, both deservedly so.

Ref against England eh.... So how come he can give that try without TMO. There where 2 welsh bodies lying under the scorer. Can't see how he grounded that.

But fair play, makes up for thee first disallowed try.

Wales have dropped off, England stepped up a gear. In for a cracking last 15 mins.

Still believe ref has been 50:50 in his decisions.

that was weird... a try that looked as though it was held up followed by a convesion that looked like it missed...

Frak sake, where at the Welsh backrow!

Backs protecting ruck ball!

How the feck is that a penalty to England? Can't believe some thought the ref was Welsh!

WHERE ARE THE WELSH FORWARDS!

Think the ref has gave us a half each, he's awful

sirBiggles wrote:Ref against England eh.... So how come he can give that try without TMO. There where 2 welsh bodies lying under the scorer. Can't see how he grounded that.

But fair play, makes up for thee first disallowed try.

Wales have dropped off, England stepped up a gear. In for a cracking last 15 mins.

Still believe ref has been 50:50 in his decisions.

im guessing the ref had a better view, from the angle we got to see i ould of thought thy'd use the tmo

That trick throw didn't really work...

Oh well, Wales forwards have just got lazy now. It's Englands game.

Seriously, are there any Welsh forwards on the pitch?

what the hell, the welsh player was laying on the wrong side???

Fitness showing

I think the new rule is that only scores that shouldn't have been allowed are allowed and only those that were are not

wales606 wrote:WHERE ARE THE WELSH FORWARDS!

I was wondering the same thing, too many players appear to be hiding at the moment.

Wales really have to work hard. Making mistakes left right centre...!

Rhodri is off, now our 10 has nobody to carry him.

Does the ref know the laws around mauls?!

Yes ref, of course the ball went forward.

really? harsh on Wales there

England forwards are playing very VERY intelligently at the lineout with the maul. They've clearly looked at how Wales have defended in the past.

wales606 wrote:Does the ref know the laws around mauls?!

I am not convinced he is right.

At least Wales changed tactics now..

What's the score?

the crowd certainly saw that go forward ref, don't worry...

agh, our kicking at goal has been poo. why are we going for kicks!

HammerofThunor wrote:England forwards are playing very VERY intelligently at the lineout with the maul. They've clearly looked at how Wales have defended in the past.

Amazing because they were awful first half..!

Does he know scrum laws either? He's dire

I want Owen Jenkins on for Ashley Evans.

I was convinced Slade missed the conversion too.

Wales wasted opportunities in the first 20 minutes of the second half, and haven't bothered to show up for the second 20

maestegmafia wrote:

HammerofThunor wrote:England forwards are playing very VERY intelligently at the lineout with the maul. They've clearly looked at how Wales have defended in the past.

Amazing because they were awful first half..!

In the lineout mauls?

Sam Hill has been great.

Sisi made big difference to England

Anyone on the score?

first half the ref was crap for england, second half he's crap for wales. lol

The Saint wrote:I was convinced Slade missed the conversion too.

Yeah same.

maestegmafia wrote:

HammerofThunor wrote:England forwards are playing very VERY intelligently at the lineout with the maul. They've clearly looked at how Wales have defended in the past.

Amazing because they were awful first half..!

#Confidence#momentum#tailsuprugby

Was the Welsh scrum under this much pressure 1st half?

15-20 to England

20 minutes ago I was sure Wales would win this, but Wales have well and truly imploded in this second half.
A similar thing happened in the 6 Nations, England bigger stronger players simply dominated the final 25 mins of the game and scored points.

GG wrote:

The Saint wrote:I was convinced Slade missed the conversion too.

Yeah same.

so was I, actually

15 - 20 to England

Can the Welsh player tackle?

The basic problem is England are too big, and now Wales are tired their going way to high to tackle the bigger England players and are falling off them.

Hood83 wrote:Anyone on the score?

YE OF LITTLE FAITH

international197 wrote:I want Owen Jenkins on for Ashley Evans.

Whoever you are, I think you need a new hobby.

Hood83 wrote:Anyone on the score?

Wal 15 20 Eng 75 mins

How about the Welsh forward try protecting the breakdown ball for 5 minutes and give Jordan Williams the ball!

If the forwards could get the ball at all

That's the game for England then

Awful call ref! England have done that at the last few breakdowns in their 22!

Sorry my Internet connection very slow today... By the time I post, others have moved conversation on beyond my reply...

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