Wales vs England Junior World Cup Final 2013.

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SUNDAY 23 JUNE - KO 17:45 - Stade de la Rabine in Vannes FRANCE
 


Coverage -


Sky Sports 2 - 17:30 - 20:00
TG4 - 17:35 - 19:37
S4C - 17:35 – 19:37

Referee: Mike Fraser (New Zealand)

Assistant Referees: Andrew Lees (Australia), Mathieu Noirot (France)


Wales:
Jordan Williams (Scarlets/Llanelli); Ashley Evans (Ospreys/Bridgend), Steffan Hughes (Scarlets/Llanelli), Jack Dixon (Dragons), Hallam Amos (Dragons/Newport); Sam Davies (Ospreys/Swansea), Rhodri Williams (Scarlets/Llandovery); Gareth Thomas (Scarlets/Carmarthen Quins), Elliot Dee (Dragons/Bedwas), Nicky Thomas (Ospreys/Swansea), Carwyn Jones (Scarlets/Carmarthen), Rhodri Hughes (Ospreys/Swansea), Jack Jones (Ospreys/Rovigo), Ieuan Jones (Dragons/Newport), Ellis Jenkins (capt, Blues/Cardiff).

Replacements:
Ethan Lewis (Blues/Cardiff), Thomas Davies (Blues/Cardiff), Dan Suter (Ospreys/Bridgend), James Benjamin (Dragons/Bedwas), Daniel Thomas (Scarlets/Llanelli), Joshua Davies (Dragons/Bedwas), Owen Jenkins (Blues/Pontypridd), Thomas Pascoe (Blues/Pontypridd).



England:
Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs); Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby), Harry Sloan (Harlequins), Sam Hill (Exeter Chiefs), Ben Howard (Worcester Warriors); Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs), Alex Day (Northampton Saints); Alec Hepburn (London Wasps), Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs), Scott Wilson (Newcastle Falcons); Tom Price (Leicester Tigers), Dominic Barrow (Leeds Carnegie), Ross Moriarty (Gloucester Rugby), Matt Hankin (Saracens), Jack Clifford (Harlequins) (capt).

Replacements:
Scott Spurling (Saracens), Danny Hobbs-Awoyemi (Northampton Saints), Tom Smallbone (London Irish), Harry Wells (Leicester Tigers), David Sisi (Bath Rugby), Callum Braley (Bristol Rugby), Ollie Devoto (Bath Rugby), Henry Purdy (Leicester Tigers).


What a fantastic semi final stage to lead to this great finale to the annual Junior comp.


Wales and England me in the finale of the Six Nations where England's massive and talented pack tore Waes apart exploiting their weakness at scrum. The Welsh lads seem to have improved their scrum massively and tonight took SA to pieces at the scrum.

It is wonderful to see two NH teams in the final, both deservedly so.

That should settle it.

What an exceptional 25 minutes from England. 20 points (or 25 if you count the incorrectly disallowed try)

Sorry my Internet connection very slow today... By the time I post, others have moved conversation on beyond my reply...

Agreed, the ref being swayed by the winning team. Often happens

England really deserve this. Wales completely fell to pieces this half..!

Is that your Falcons lad playing hooker, pooly?

England again doing what Wales just got penalised for right in front of the posts.

Desperation in that DG attempt...

Well done the England lads. Can't see it but a hell of turnaround.

Wales decide to play when the game is lost

They shouldhave set up a DG properly

ChequeredJersey wrote:Desperation in that DG attempt...

Tell me about it. He's on the shortlist for player of the year believe it or not.

Get in there!!!!!

Wales great first half but it's an 80min game.

Well deserved, at last we've done it!!

Oh well.... well done England, best team won really.

Still both teams can be proud we made it to the final.

Wow. Amazed we won that after the first half. Guess it bodes well for the NH.

Well done England, didn't think you'd come back after 1st half, but you did... With the ref's help ;-)

Very impressive game.  Well turned around by England.  Great stuff from both teams.

Happy with that win, commiserations Wales, you were the better team for the first 40 by far but once we got momentum the ref started to come over to our side and you couldn't come back into it. Congrats on a thrilling final and some classy looking players for the future

Ref was pretty poor in that second half

Wales completely imploded in that last 30 minutes

No effort in the final 20 until the game was lost. Very poor

Great heart shown by England. They had everything going against them at half time, they fronted up and won it through sheer grit against a BIGGER Welsh pack (commentator called it in the first half).

Well it was England's fourth final, so they were bound to get it eventually.

Inept ref IMO but well done England, excellent comeback. Clifford should be revealed as Junior player of the year now as well.

Job done. Ref was definitely going with momentum - but first you've got to get momentum.

Superb recovery by England - to hold Wales scoreless in the second half is remarkable.

Good game. Ref seemed to urine everyone off so probably not THAT bad.

What a fantastic come back by England. The way they fought back against a very fired up Wales team was just amazing.

Very hard luck to Wales for a great game.

well, both teams can be proud. Ref made some strange decisions for both teams.

Well done to and england team finally beating the welsh!

ChequeredJersey wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:

HammerofThunor wrote:England forwards are playing very VERY intelligently at the lineout with the maul. They've clearly looked at how Wales have defended in the past.

Amazing because they were awful first half..!

#Confidence#momentum#tailsuprugby

#clueless#whatdothesemean#Ifeelold

nathan wrote:well, both teams can be proud. Ref made some strange decisions for both teams.

Well done to and england team finally beating the welsh!

Actually Wales have NEVER beaten England at U20 level...

Well I wanted us to go one better than last year, and technically we did by coming 2nd... Some of our players are available next year, if we keep the coaching team we should have another good Wales U20s.

Shifty wrote:

nathan wrote:well, both teams can be proud. Ref made some strange decisions for both teams.

Well done to and england team finally beating the welsh!

Actually Wales have NEVER beaten England at U20 level...

ah sorry i meant just in general, the six nations still hurts!

Well, 1st of all a massive congrats to both sides, deserved their place in the finals. Comiserations to Wales, you won the first half easily but were well bested in the second. Outstanding turn round by the lads to rescue it in some style.

Great to have put the SH into the also ran group.

Who is that kid in the photo on BBC website and what the hell is going on with his hair and tache. Not a good look.

nathan wrote:well, both teams can be proud. Ref made some strange decisions for both teams.

Well done to and england team finally beating the welsh!

Finally beating Wales. eh? I think you will find England have never lost too Wales in the under 20's  game.

But i do agree with you both teams can be proud of how they played to day.

majesticimperialman wrote:

nathan wrote:well, both teams can be proud. Ref made some strange decisions for both teams.

Well done to and england team finally beating the welsh!

Finally beating Wales. eh? I think you will find England have never lost too Wales in the under 20's  game.

But i do agree with you both teams can be proud of how they played to day.

i don't mean just in the u20, i mean the six nations when we lost.

Worst decision ever!

Well done England - big comeback, and well deserved victory.

Wales wasted a golden opportunity there, failed to capitalise when the game seemed to be going all their way, and really fell of the pace in the last 20.  Still, well done for making it this far and providing a good final!

Who the heck decided the IRB Junior Player award? Warren Gatland?

Well done England, showing great character to come back from that. Congratulations. 

Wales, taught a rugby lesson there in terms of closing out the game (or not). Never a better chance to win the world champs. Pretty poor to capitulate so badly.

Sam Davies is the Young player of the Year 

majesticimperialman wrote:

nathan wrote:well, both teams can be proud. Ref made some strange decisions for both teams.

Well done to and england team finally beating the welsh!

Finally beating Wales. eh? I think you will find England have never lost too Wales in the under 20's  game.

But i do agree with you both teams can be proud of how they played to day.

Just be honest, you never knew that. You just regurgitated what somebody just wrote.

George Carlin wrote:

ChequeredJersey wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:

HammerofThunor wrote:England forwards are playing very VERY intelligently at the lineout with the maul. They've clearly looked at how Wales have defended in the past.

Amazing because they were awful first half..!

#Confidence#momentum#tailsuprugby

#clueless#whatdothesemean#Ifeelold

Just felt like hashtagging, it's a twitter thing, I was trying to be ironic but I feel I failed...

Basically England tried to play rugby in the first half and Wales played off their mistakes and kept them off balance.

In the second half England used their pack more and Wales got tired very quickly in the last 30 minutes.  Wales tackled high, when tired, and their players were brushed off far too often and far too many members of the pack went missing in the contact area.

Best team won over all though, Wales more exciting at using the ball, but England smarter and stronger.

The Saint wrote:

majesticimperialman wrote:

nathan wrote:well, both teams can be proud. Ref made some strange decisions for both teams.

Well done to and england team finally beating the welsh!

Finally beating Wales. eh? I think you will find England have never lost too Wales in the under 20's  game.

But i do agree with you both teams can be proud of how they played to day.

Just be honest, you never knew that. You just regurgitated what somebody just wrote.

Who else has wrote that then saint?

Can someone explain all this 'hashtag' nonsense to me? It obviously comes up a lot these days but it completely mystifies me. I understand the general concept of Twitter in that people write a few lines of Love sacks for people to read.

majesticimperialman wrote:

The Saint wrote:

majesticimperialman wrote:

nathan wrote:well, both teams can be proud. Ref made some strange decisions for both teams.

Well done to and england team finally beating the welsh!

Finally beating Wales. eh? I think you will find England have never lost too Wales in the under 20's  game.

But i do agree with you both teams can be proud of how they played to day.

Just be honest, you never knew that. You just regurgitated what somebody just wrote.

Who else has wrote that then saint?

You already know, seeing as you copied it. Stop posting rubbish on threads all the time.

HammerofThunor wrote:Can someone explain all this 'hashtag' nonsense to me? It obviously comes up a lot these days but it completely mystifies me. I understand the general concept of Twitter in that people write a few lines of Love sacks for people to read.

It's Poopie, don't bother learning what it is

One thing I will say is that I'm glad we beat the Baby Blacks on the way to win this. If someone else had knocked them out for us it would have felt a little deflated.

HammerofThunor wrote:Can someone explain all this 'hashtag' nonsense to me? It obviously comes up a lot these days but it completely mystifies me. I understand the general concept of Twitter in that people write a few lines of Love sacks for people to read.

I think it's Twitter talk.

The Saint wrote:

majesticimperialman wrote:

nathan wrote:well, both teams can be proud. Ref made some strange decisions for both teams.

Well done to and england team finally beating the welsh!

Finally beating Wales. eh? I think you will find England have never lost too Wales in the under 20's  game.

But i do agree with you both teams can be proud of how they played to day.

Just be honest, you never knew that. You just regurgitated what somebody just wrote.

Honestly I did know that, its been mentioned on here before.

It feels like world cup semi final loss to France again. We will never have a greater  chance to win this tournament. An opportunity lost. Our fitness levels clearly not as good as the English. Fair play they deserved victory.

Sam Davies wins JPOTY. Thought Clifford would get it.

nathan wrote:

The Saint wrote:

majesticimperialman wrote:

nathan wrote:well, both teams can be proud. Ref made some strange decisions for both teams.

Well done to and england team finally beating the welsh!

Finally beating Wales. eh? I think you will find England have never lost too Wales in the under 20's  game.

But i do agree with you both teams can be proud of how they played to day.

Just be honest, you never knew that. You just regurgitated what somebody just wrote.

Honestly I did know that, its been mentioned on here before.

He was talking to Maj, not you Nathan!

Norfolklass wrote:It feels like world cup semi final loss to France again. We will never have a greater  chance to win this tournament. An opportunity lost. Our fitness levels clearly not as good as the English. Fair play they deserved victory.

We? I thought Norfolk was in England!?

It's always nice to win things, but it's like when Wales won the 7's World Cup, yeah it's nice to do, but not overly important really. What's important is quite a few of these lads make the break through into senior rugby and go on to play for Wales.

You only have to look at the Welsh team smashed 92-0 by New Zealand two years ago and see how many of them have gone into senior rugby. Basically most of them. The U20 is just an education, there is always next year.