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Post by sodhat Mon 24 Jun 2013, 11:57

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Post by sodhat Tue 02 Jul 2013, 09:39

Who is scared of spiders here?

My mate is in the army and one of his jobs is to inspect and clean out helicopters after they've been used. That includes climbing inside the tail and crawling all the way down to make sure there is no debris.

One of his colleagues was doing this and got right to the back where it gets very tight. By the time he got there he was face to face with a whole nest of black widow spiders.

I'd Poopie my pants.

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Post by cherriesfna Tue 02 Jul 2013, 09:48

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Post by GSC Tue 02 Jul 2013, 09:50

Aye, twas why I realised I wouldn't have any votes from him.
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Post by GSC Tue 02 Jul 2013, 09:52

Also, I'm impressed with the job you've done so far, keep it up OK 
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Post by GSC Tue 02 Jul 2013, 09:53

A reminder that the TP limit did go up to 27.5m last week, so if anyone happens to drop into that range, they are available to sign.
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Post by Marky Tue 02 Jul 2013, 09:54

sodhat wrote:Who is scared of spiders here?

My mate is in the army and one of his jobs is to inspect and clean out helicopters after they've been used. That includes climbing inside the tail and crawling all the way down to make sure there is no debris.

One of his colleagues was doing this and got right to the back where it gets very tight. By the time he got there he was face to face with a whole nest of black widow spiders.

I'd Poopie my pants.

 There's a difference between "spiders" and "a whole nest of black widow spiders".

As in i'd be scared of the latter but not the former.

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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 02 Jul 2013, 09:56

I'm not scared of Spiders but I wouldn't go around messing with them, luckily we don't get poisonous animals here except the black adder I think.
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Post by sodhat Tue 02 Jul 2013, 09:59

Marky wrote:
sodhat wrote:Who is scared of spiders here?

My mate is in the army and one of his jobs is to inspect and clean out helicopters after they've been used. That includes climbing inside the tail and crawling all the way down to make sure there is no debris.

One of his colleagues was doing this and got right to the back where it gets very tight. By the time he got there he was face to face with a whole nest of black widow spiders.

I'd Poopie my pants.

 There's a difference between "spiders" and "a whole nest of black widow spiders".

As in i'd be scared of the latter but not the former.

Fair point.

When he found them, guess what the army did to neutralise the threat?

They put up signs saying "Caution, black widow spiders in the area"

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Post by Marky Tue 02 Jul 2013, 10:02

VivaPaulScholes wrote:I'm not scared of Spiders but I wouldn't go around messing with them, luckily we don't get poisonous animals here except the black adder I think.

Rowan Atkinson?

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 02 Jul 2013, 10:03

Zinedine_Ze_Zebra wrote:Morning,

Marky, Arsenal fans dont sing. Ever been to the The Emirates, you can hear a pin drop at times.

Nathan Redmond off to Norwich apparently. Happy with that Olly?

Very happy with that. A good young player who has lots of pace and potential, of which we'll probably make a really tidy profit of in a few years time
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 02 Jul 2013, 10:04

Sorry I didn't vote Cherries, will do better next time round
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Post by GSC Tue 02 Jul 2013, 10:05

Redmond for 3m is a far better buy than Ince for 8m
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Post by Afro Tue 02 Jul 2013, 10:13

GSC wrote:Redmond for 3m is a far better buy than Ince for 8m

And better than Zaha for £15m
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Post by cherriesfna Tue 02 Jul 2013, 10:15

signing of the season has to be Ian Harte on a free
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 02 Jul 2013, 10:16

Afro what do you think of Leroy Fer? Seems the Nodge are after him too
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Post by sodhat Tue 02 Jul 2013, 10:16

cherriesfna wrote:signing of the season has to be Ian Harte on a free

That may have been true in 2001.

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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 02 Jul 2013, 10:22

Marky wrote:
VivaPaulScholes wrote:I'm not scared of Spiders but I wouldn't go around messing with them, luckily we don't get poisonous animals here except the black adder I think.

Rowan Atkinson?

Haha. Tell us a joke, I made a joke up about Condoleeza Rice and got called a racist. I guess some jokes are not meant to be said outside 606.
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Post by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Tue 02 Jul 2013, 10:23

Im not fond of spiders but I dont mind them. Only the huge ones in foreign country I run away from lol #TrueStory

Very happy with that. A good young player who has lots of pace and potential, of which we'll probably make a really tidy profit of in a few years time
With Wolfman upfront too your shaping up alright.

BigFellasAfro wrote:And better than Zaha for £15m
Laugh For the price of £2m to £15m there could be better value in it. Redmond wont become Premier League top 10 good, Zaha will prove to be the better. Well he already is.

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Post by cherriesfna Tue 02 Jul 2013, 10:23

VFL vs Brust Sauger Reasons

A lot of class in the BS line up, and I can see them getting some joy down the wings. Markovic will have to support Benteke at times against the back three or he’ll be drowned out though. Sadly for them I don’t think they have enough to hold off two world class strikers.

Classic non-contest, Bassender's much better side dominated the game from start to finish.

tight game to call but Bassender have that little bit extra to gain themselves a vital win. I like the 3-4-1-2 and their 3 attackers are lethal!

Close game but Brust just edge it for me

Two decent sides but both making a few changes. I feel Bassender are stronger overall despite the lack of width, I feel it didn't benefit the front two and limited their supply. Brust Sauger do well to give Benteke a decent supply and the match ends level as Benteke takes his chances.

I really like Bassender's new formation and feel it caught Brust out, the front 3 of Fred/Higs/Ibra is truly terrifying and that will equal goals although I'd have gone with Pastore not Fred. Brust have a good side but I still dont rate Sanchez, I think out and out wingers would benefit Benteke.
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 02 Jul 2013, 10:27

BigFellasAfro wrote:
GSC wrote:Redmond for 3m is a far better buy than Ince for 8m

And better than Zaha for £15m

Haha typical comment from Afro didn't expect any better. Hows your boy Wilshere doing? Not long left till he has to win Balon Dor after all he is better than a peak scholes at 18. Good luck putting your hopes on him for the national team he hasn't proved much. Understudy to Cleverly
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Post by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Tue 02 Jul 2013, 10:48

VivaPaulScholes wrote:
BigFellasAfro wrote:
GSC wrote:Redmond for 3m is a far better buy than Ince for 8m

And better than Zaha for £15m

Haha typical comment from Afro didn't expect any better. Hows your boy Wilshere doing?  Not long left till he has to win Balon Dor after all he is better than a peak scholes at 18. Good luck putting your hopes on him for the national team he hasn't proved much. Understudy to Cleverly

Could Afro be bitter about Moyes Viva ???
I wouldn't of though he is.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 02 Jul 2013, 10:49

I think Jonny Howson is better than Tom Cleverley. He's that bad
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Post by Afro Tue 02 Jul 2013, 10:55

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How dare I post anything negative about a United player Laugh

And United fans wonder why they have a reputation for not accepting criticism of their team.

In my opinion, Zaha is a much, much better player at the moment, but I also think Redmond has bags of potential to be as good. £3m for a team like Norwich for the potential is a better deal than paying £15m for a better player (but someone who is still only potential).

BTW - you have never answered the question of why Wilshere has to win the Balon D'Or to be better than someone who never received a vote. You are conveniently avoiding Scholes' lack of being anywhere near the Balon D'Or
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Post by Afro Tue 02 Jul 2013, 10:56

Zinedine_Ze_Zebra wrote:
VivaPaulScholes wrote:
BigFellasAfro wrote:
GSC wrote:Redmond for 3m is a far better buy than Ince for 8m

And better than Zaha for £15m

Haha typical comment from Afro didn't expect any better. Hows your boy Wilshere doing?  Not long left till he has to win Balon Dor after all he is better than a peak scholes at 18. Good luck putting your hopes on him for the national team he hasn't proved much. Understudy to Cleverly

Could Afro be bitter about Moyes Viva ???
I wouldn't of though he is.

I wish Moyes the very best at United. I don't hate United like many and I think he has earnt the right to have a shot at a bigger job at a bigger club.

I really hope he is a huge success because he deserves it for what he did for us.
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Post by Afro Tue 02 Jul 2013, 10:58

Just before this descends into the usual argument. I don't think that Wilshere at 18 (or now even) is a better player than peak Scholes. That was said to wind you two up.

But I would like to know why he has to win the Balon D'or to be better than Scholes.
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Post by GSC Tue 02 Jul 2013, 11:00

It is an odd argument.

Its like saying Verratti has to win the ballon d'or in the next year to be considered better than Leon Osman.
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 02 Jul 2013, 11:02

If you admit Wilshere can never be better than scholes then he does not have to win Balon dor but if he will be a better player he has to win it as scholes is the greatest english player for the past 50 years. I really wish carrick and scholes were not English everyone would be all over them
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Post by Afro Tue 02 Jul 2013, 11:03

Or Zaha has to win the Balloon Door inside two years to be better than Grant Holt
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Post by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Tue 02 Jul 2013, 11:03

[quote="Olly"]I think Jonny Howson is better than Tom Cleverley. He's that bad[/quote]
Laugh Laugh That Leeds scum, never. Come on let not get silly now. Cant we just keep this as a constructive discussion?

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Post by Guest Tue 02 Jul 2013, 11:03

He only has to get one vote for the Balloon Door to be better, because as good as Scholes was, and as brilliant as Xavi and Zidane reckon he was, he got no recognition from anyone. I'm not sure of how good he was on reflection.

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Post by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Tue 02 Jul 2013, 11:05

VivaPaulScholes wrote:carrick and scholes were not English everyone would be all over them
I actually agree with that.

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Post by Afro Tue 02 Jul 2013, 11:06

VivaPaulScholes wrote:If you admit Wilshere can never be better than scholes then he does not have to win Balon dor but if he will be a better player he has to win it as scholes is the greatest english player for the past 50 years. I really wish carrick and scholes were not English everyone would be all over them

Purely on your Balloon Door criteria, Scholes is not even close to being the best English player of the last 50 years. He received no votes from anyone of any country in all of his career, whilst other English players have. You can't use the Balloon Door to make your argument and then not apply it consistently
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 02 Jul 2013, 11:07

Azzy and Afro two old timers who think kicking the ball as hard as possible is a skill, no offence but you guys are from the stone ages and that influence is rubbing onto the younger lot. We have this mentality which wont see us ever progress as a footballing nation
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Post by Afro Tue 02 Jul 2013, 11:08

Azzy Mahmood wrote:He only has to get one vote for the Balloon Door to be better, because as good as Scholes was, and as brilliant as Xavi and Zidane reckon he was, he got no recognition from anyone. I'm not sure of how good he was on reflection.

I'm not even applying my own opinion. None of his peers over his whole career thought Scholes good enough to give him a vote (and they vote for their top 3).

How do you explain that one Viva, if Scholes was so good, or underrated by English fans.
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Post by Guest Tue 02 Jul 2013, 11:09

So when England had Hoddle, Waddle, Beardsley and Barnes, our amazing mad skillz won us everything? No, it was rubbish for England then, just as it is now.

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Post by Afro Tue 02 Jul 2013, 11:11

VivaPaulScholes wrote:Azzy and Afro two old timers who think kicking the ball as hard as possible is a skill,  no offence but you guys are from the stone ages and that influence is rubbing onto the younger lot. We have this mentality which wont see us ever progress as a footballing nation

Typical Viva. Throwing accusations around with no back-up (I personally love the passing game and hate kick and hoof style. I rate Carrick higher than most) just to avoid the actual question he is being asked.
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 02 Jul 2013, 11:18

BigFellasAfro wrote:
Azzy Mahmood wrote:He only has to get one vote for the Balloon Door to be better, because as good as Scholes was, and as brilliant as Xavi and Zidane reckon he was, he got no recognition from anyone. I'm not sure of how good he was on reflection.

I'm not even applying my own opinion. None of his peers over his whole career thought Scholes good enough to give him a vote (and they vote for their top 3).

How do you explain that one Viva, if Scholes was so good, or underrated by English fans.

Because Afro its about voting for your mates, Scholes has no time for the media or cosying up with the fat cats. Scholes is respected by everyone but people don't vote for him because he don't care. Beckham has been voted in balon dor but its because he hangs out with the star names
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Post by GSC Tue 02 Jul 2013, 11:20

Lampard was 2nd in the Ballon D'or once wasn't he?

I think we can all agree that someone needing to win the award at a young age to surpass someone who has never received a single vote is illogical.
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Post by Guest Tue 02 Jul 2013, 11:21

So the Balloon Door is about being popular with the media and celebrities? How did Fabio Cannavaro ever win it then?

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Post by GSC Tue 02 Jul 2013, 11:22

Do you think we can raise enough cash to bribe the Tahitian captain into voting for Wilshere?
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Post by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Tue 02 Jul 2013, 11:23

Afro, which English players have been voted in the past?
Gerrard, Rooney. Who else please?

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Post by GSC Tue 02 Jul 2013, 11:24

Lampard, Owen
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Post by GSC Tue 02 Jul 2013, 11:25

In fact, as I remember, didn't Owen win the Ballon D'Or when he was 21?

Doesn't that satisfy your criteria, making Owen better than Scholes?
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Post by Afro Tue 02 Jul 2013, 11:25

VivaPaulScholes wrote:
BigFellasAfro wrote:
Azzy Mahmood wrote:He only has to get one vote for the Balloon Door to be better, because as good as Scholes was, and as brilliant as Xavi and Zidane reckon he was, he got no recognition from anyone. I'm not sure of how good he was on reflection.

I'm not even applying my own opinion. None of his peers over his whole career thought Scholes good enough to give him a vote (and they vote for their top 3).

How do you explain that one Viva, if Scholes was so good, or underrated by English fans.

Because Afro its about voting for your mates, Scholes has no time for the media or cosying up with the fat cats. Scholes is respected by everyone but people don't vote for him because he don't care. Beckham has been voted in balon dor but its because he hangs out with the star names

And Rooney, Lampard, Owen, Gerrard, Nani even. They all got votes from their mates?
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 02 Jul 2013, 11:27

Afro rates Wilshere really high and said he is better than Scholes and is backtracking on his comments because I said wilshere needs to show why he is better.

THere is no way ever that he will become better then Scholes, Gerrard and Lampard have both tried and failed. Zidane another player I rate highly comes second to Scholes. But you all got fooled by Zidanes looks an exotic name and French accent. Scholes is ginger and pale thats probably the reason why he never won it he don't look good or sexy as some stars he has a funny deep northen accent its not as sexy as Zidanes ooh lala marseille accent.
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Post by GSC Tue 02 Jul 2013, 11:28

Zinedine_Ze_Zebra wrote:
VivaPaulScholes wrote:carrick and scholes were not English everyone would be all over them
I actually agree with that.

If Carrick and Scholes played for a different team to Man United, neither of you two would be all over them
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 02 Jul 2013, 11:29

Zidane done it at World Cups/European Championships on the biggest stages of them all.

Scholes got shunted out to the wing.

Think that argument is done
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Post by sodhat Tue 02 Jul 2013, 11:30

This argument Laugh

It's like nailing jelly to a tree guys. Viva won't address the elephant in the room and it ends up being a United vs the World debate.

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Post by Afro Tue 02 Jul 2013, 11:31

Olly wrote:Zidane done it at World Cups/European Championships on the biggest stages of them all.

Scholes got shunted out to the wing.

Think that argument is done

But Zidane didn't play for United, so he can't be better.

Good point GSC btw. Say Carrick and Scholes played for Arsenal, Viva and Zidane would be slating them
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 02 Jul 2013, 11:33

GSC wrote:
Zinedine_Ze_Zebra wrote:
VivaPaulScholes wrote:carrick and scholes were not English everyone would be all over them
I actually agree with that.

If Carrick and Scholes played for a different team to Man United, neither of you two would be all over them

That's not true, if a player is good I'll rate him. Gerrard and Lampard have proved it they are damn good footballers. How old is Wilshere he is getting surpassed by the new young kids coming through. I remember when Kroos ate him alive last season haha Wilshere what has he done another Kieran dyer.
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