I feel so sorry for Halfpenny.

HammerofThunor wrote:

Risca Rev wrote:

HammerofThunor wrote:

Risca Rev wrote:I don't read too much into kicking percentages. Otherwise you could deduce that Biggar is a better kicker than Halfpenny from the 6 Nations

Ok how about the one that missed 1 kick to Halfpenny's 4?

The one that took three less shots? Who knows if he wouldn't have had the yips had he taken equal kicks.

But I thought you don't relative values? So you don't like percentages. Don't like absolute values. Just go with the gut? Halfpenny is a better kick cuz ee's the dogs.

Taylorman wrote:Its simple. Halfpenny, having kicked and hit the cross bar from a lesser distance and having practiced on the field beforehand had more knowledge than anyone on the planet as to whether he could reach the cross bar or higher.

He should have at least been asked if he could reach it, and if not should have declined in the best interests of the side and the win.

Just because he gets kicks just as far elsewhere- he hadnt that day on that field, with that ball.

If Halfpenny considered all that, then took the kick on 100% confidently then thats fine. If he followed orders and took it even though he had grave doubts about it going over, then he will have let himself and the team down.

Only he will know this, and there is no one else to consider here. Big matches require big decisons, and this was Halfpenny's to make, NO ONE elses.

Risca Rev wrote:

HammerofThunor wrote:

Risca Rev wrote:

HammerofThunor wrote:

Risca Rev wrote:I don't read too much into kicking percentages. Otherwise you could deduce that Biggar is a better kicker than Halfpenny from the 6 Nations

Ok how about the one that missed 1 kick to Halfpenny's 4?

The one that took three less shots? Who knows if he wouldn't have had the yips had he taken equal kicks.

But I thought you don't relative values? So you don't like percentages. Don't like absolute values. Just go with the gut? Halfpenny is a better kick cuz ee's the dogs.

Figures often don't tell a whole story, as I've shown with the three less kicks attempted. No need to be a child.

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:

Taylorman wrote:Its simple. Halfpenny, having kicked and hit the cross bar from a lesser distance and having practiced on the field beforehand had more knowledge than anyone on the planet as to whether he could reach the cross bar or higher.

He should have at least been asked if he could reach it, and if not should have declined in the best interests of the side and the win.

Just because he gets kicks just as far elsewhere- he hadnt that day on that field, with that ball.

If Halfpenny considered all that, then took the kick on 100% confidently then thats fine. If he followed orders and took it even though he had grave doubts about it going over, then he will have let himself and the team down.

Only he will know this, and there is no one else to consider here. Big matches require big decisons, and this was Halfpenny's to make, NO ONE elses.

But BOD had already said posts, hadn't he? That meant Halfpenny's opinion on whether or not he had the distance was moot. As I understand it, you can't change your mind once you've said you're going to kick for goal.

I must ask Chris Robshaw to clarify it for me.

Halfpenny in action:

McLaren wrote:I am not a huge rugby fan but having been to a couple of the games on this tour I have developed huge respect for Halfpenny.  No matter what the sport it is great to see someone perform to such an unbelievable standard.

His first one from the same side was only just inside the half and must have been at least 52m.

Halfpenny in action:

McLaren wrote:Yes, has been pretty good atmosphere at the games.  Certainly better than going to murrayfield with its posho morningside types.

McLaren wrote:Rugby seems to be watched by people who wear barber jackets and send their kids to private schools.

Taylorman wrote:

McLaren wrote:Rugby seems to be watched by people who wear barber jackets and send their kids to private schools.

 

McLaren wrote:Rugby seems to be watched by people who wear barber jackets and send their kids to private schools.

t1000advancedprototype wrote:First test
Australia were better and lost

Second test
Australia were better and were the only side attacking and they won.

Third test
Lions get obliterated