India in Zimbabwe and India A in South Africa 2013

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There is yet some time for this series to take off, but just starting a thread well in advance. This certainly is not the most anticipated series this summer, neither is it a high profile series for that matter.
Yet there are a couple of things that make it an interesting one. Zimbabwe made a successful return to fullfledged return to international cricket in 2011, and have showed some good signes since, although the output hasn't been consistent. Unfortunately, this series does not include any test matches. But there are 5 ODIs, and the young Zimbabwe outfit would benefit from as much international exposure as possible. The other important thing is that it is India who are touring, meaning that Zc would get some much needed additional revenue.
The other thing is the Indian team itself. They have rested some senior players including skipper Mahendra Singh Dhoni and offspinner Ravichandran Ashwin. Seamers Umesh Yadav, Bhuvneshwar Kumar and Ishant Sharma are also rested. exciting youngster, J&K's offspinning all-rounder Parwez Rasool is given an opportunity. Haryana seamer Mohit Sharma has also found a place in the side. Cheteshwar Pujara is back in the ODI mix, and this time he should make his debut in all likelihood. Ajinkya Rahane is also back. Virat Kohli will be leading the side.
India squad: Virat Kohli (capt.), Shikhar Dhawan, Rohit Sharma, Dinesh Karthik, Cheteshwar Pujara, Suresh Raina, Ambati Rayudu, Ajinkya Rahane, Ravindra
Jadeja, Amit Mishra, Parvez Rasool, Shami Ahmed, R Vinay Kumar, Jaydev Unadkat, Mohit Sharma.

msp83 wrote:Gambhir had a duck in the ongoing game didn't he? Gauti needs big runs, not 30s and 40s, he was getting a few of those in the last couple of years, but it has been the big knocks that have been missing. In his case, 30s and 40s and even 50s shouldn't even be considered by the selectors. He's a player better than those wasted chances and he has to be at his best to play for India and for that he has to be focused on his game, and the intense Gambhir is what we want back, not the classic waster of starts that he has become in the last couple of years.

you are right..maybe he is juts past the hill.

anyway Dhjawan and Vijay are strong incumbents...so it's not like even with big 100s Gambhir can walk back into the playing 11.

Rahane would do his chances good if he volunteers to open the batting...whihc somehow currently he is not wanting to do

strange Vijay Zol makes his FC debut.......in a A test match vs. NZ

Must be very highly rated in the eyes of selectors

KP_fan wrote:strange Vijay Zol makes his FC debut.......in a A test match vs. NZ

Must be very highly rated in the eyes of selectors

and 18 year old Zol cracks a hundred on debut.

and the answer to my own question.......why selectors pluck him from junior cricket and throw him staright in an A-test match ??

It's is the perennial hunt in India and Pak for the next teenage prodigy......the Hassan Raza, Afridid, Aqib, Mushtaq ( Mohammed), more recently Amir...the success stories Wasim and waqr.......
and in India...Siva, Prabhakar, Razdan, Kambli, sodhi , Kaif, yuvraj and the BIG success Tendulkar.

it's a gamble on our next teenaged prodigy that will be a world beater in records and serve us for the next 20 years.

If Zol does keep doing well against NZ-A and in the FC season to follow.....he might short circuit some of the older names

here is an article on his very humble background coming from a Mofussil , nonedescript of a town.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/vijay-zol--jalnas-biggest-success-story/1150791/

Yep, he is a special talent. Has been very consistent at U19 level and had a good Deodhar Trophy last year. There's a bit of Sangakkara in his batting (only in terms of style, mind you). Can't see him being a contender for SA tour and rightly so. But if he has a stormer of a season and Vijay fails in SA, he may be an outside contender to go on the trip to NZ in February, which is at the end of the Ranji season or in England next summer.

Zol batted in the middle order for this India A game and scored a creditable hundred that came on the back of some consistent persormances for the U-19 side. The lad is a series talent, and he has to be carefully managed. Could certainly go places if he has the right attitude to the game, as the talent is clearly there.

Nayar gets the hundred too...he needs to have a special season....he was in contention and then dropped out of the race because of injuries.

manoj Tiwary is out for the entire season.

Suraj Yadav is back from his injury

KP_fan wrote:Nayar gets the hundred too...he needs to have a special season....he was in contention and then dropped out of the race because of injuries.

manoj Tiwary is out for the entire season.

Suraj Yadav is back from his injury

You mean Suryakumar Yadav KPF? The exciting batsman from Mumbai? Suraj Yadav is a seam bowler playing for I think Services

msp83 wrote:

KP_fan wrote:Nayar gets the hundred too...he needs to have a special season....he was in contention and then dropped out of the race because of injuries.

manoj Tiwary is out for the entire season.

Suraj Yadav is back from his injury

You mean Suryakumar Yadav KPF? The exciting batsman from Mumbai? Suraj Yadav is a seam bowler playing for I think Services

yes the one from Mumbai who has a great season in 2012 and then he disappeared due to injury of some kind...just saw him back leading U-23 side

Surya Kumar Yadav is a seriously good talent. Interestingly, he scores at a strike rate of around 80 in first class cricket with an average over 50. But his List A and T-20 averages aren't really anything to talk about.
Reminds of a former India opener?

msp83 wrote:Surya Kumar Yadav is a seriously good talent. Interestingly, he scores at a strike rate of around 80 in first class cricket with an average over 50. But his List A and T-20 averages aren't really anything to talk about.
Reminds of a former India opener?

he is one of the few specialist batsmen along with Nayar in FC cricket who can bowl seam up medium

and Gambhir gets a hundred....but..one's not enough...he's gotta get one or atleast half a ton in almost every inning to sparkle, dazzle and be hard to ignore

A hundred is a good beginning to Gambhir's comeback attempt. But he needs a few more of those before being considered.

it appears that the batsman who faced the most challenging bowling v NZ-A today was jiwanjot in seaming condtions...mature footwork.

and Zol was assured and solid temperament.....game was dead by the time Nayar got his hundred.

Saxena got the flight and turn and was impressive.

wisden india's reports are worth a read.

thankfully second test is a 4 day affair

msp83 wrote:Zol batted in the middle order for this India A game and scored a creditable hundred that came on the back of some consistent persormances for the U-19 side. The lad is a series talent, and he has to be carefully managed. Could certainly go places if he has the right attitude to the game, as the talent is clearly there.

He would've batted at 3 had it not been for the nightwatchman. He's an opener.

Unmukt Chand, so far has been a bitof a let down particularly in the longer formats at the domestic level. Even his performances for India A hasn't been all that great or consistent. So if Zol gets his head in the right place and develop a sound technique, then he can step in at the top. Certainly one youngster to watchout for in this domestic season. Kerala's Sanju Samson, who already has some experience of domestic cricket is another. I hope he takes up the wicketkeeping responsibilities on a consistent basis as well. and the left-arm Chinaman Kuldeep Yadav is another one. He has done well at the U-19 level, hopefully he'll make his debut and get a run in the UP side this time round

msp83 wrote:Unmukt Chand, so far has been a bitof a let down particularly in the longer formats at the domestic level. Even his performances for India A hasn't been all that great or consistent. So if Zol gets his head in the right place and develop a sound technique, then he can step in at the top. Certainly one youngster to watchout for in this domestic season. Kerala's Sanju Samson, who already has some experience of domestic cricket is another. I hope he takes up the wicketkeeping responsibilities on a consistent basis as well.  and the left-arm Chinaman Kuldeep Yadav is another one. He has done well at the U-19 level, hopefully he'll make his debut and get a run in the UP side this time round

yopu are right msp....whatever I have sen of Unmukt......he has serious technical flaws.......his feet movement is far from adequate to cover the line of movig ball.

I saw a lot of fotage of Zol yesterday on the net.......he is a very unsual batsman....stays put on the back-foot to the legaside of the ball and hits a lot of his strokes between cover and point.
shade of Lara at best.....and a bit like Agar in his inning of 98....at worst.

Isn't KL Rahul a WK also ?

KP_fan wrote:

msp83 wrote:Unmukt Chand, so far has been a bitof a let down particularly in the longer formats at the domestic level. Even his performances for India A hasn't been all that great or consistent. So if Zol gets his head in the right place and develop a sound technique, then he can step in at the top. Certainly one youngster to watchout for in this domestic season. Kerala's Sanju Samson, who already has some experience of domestic cricket is another. I hope he takes up the wicketkeeping responsibilities on a consistent basis as well.  and the left-arm Chinaman Kuldeep Yadav is another one. He has done well at the U-19 level, hopefully he'll make his debut and get a run in the UP side this time round

yopu are right msp....whatever I have sen of Unmukt......he has serious technical flaws.......his feet movement is far from adequate to cover the line of movig ball.

I saw a lot of fotage of Zol yesterday on the net.......he is a very unsual batsman....stays put on the back-foot to the legaside of the ball and hits a lot of his strokes between cover and point.
shade of Lara at best.....and a bit like Agar in his inning of 98....at worst.

Isn't KL Rahul a WK also ?

KL Rahul isn't a regular keeper. Karnataka's regular keeper is CM Gautam who can bat as well.

So BCCI find a way to get rid of bahrat mata ka bojh before the start of SA series...and thus solving the conundrum of the right team balance.
BD might haver been even better...he could have retired increasing his 100 count by 2.

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India-WI Tests planned for November; uncertainty over SA tour

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September 1, 2013

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The BCCI has planned a Test series at home in November against West Indies, ahead of the scheduled South Africa tour, thus ensuring Sachin Tendulkar plays his landmark 200th Test at home; he will perhaps bid farewell to the game at the end of the Test series. However a list of upcoming series approved and announced by the board on Sunday made no mention of the tour of South Africa, scheduled to take place from the end of November.

Tendulkar, who is two Tests short of becoming the first cricketer to feature in 200 Tests, was expected to put an end to his 24-year sojourn at the highest level at the end of the South Africa Test series. The Tests series against West Indies, which will comprise of at least two Tests likely to be played in Kolkata and Mumbai in November, offers him a perfect stage to sign off in his hometown.

The BCCI claimed to have received an email from the WICB confirming its interest in the series, and accordingly placed the proposal before the working committee.

As important as the series is from the Tendulkar angle, the BCCI was also concerned about India's lack of home fixtures for almost 12 months. This would have meant the Indian board's revenues would have taken a hit.

The plan for the West Indies series was announced after the BCCI's working committee meeting on Sunday. The decision to invite West Indies for the Tests, followed by an ODI series, and the silence on the South Africa tour, puts the latter in doubt.

BCCI president, N Srinivasan, told PTI after the working committee meeting: "I've not said that the South Africa series will be scrapped. It's definitely on. We have just proposed a West Indies series in November. Neither there were any discussions on the South Africa series nor any member raised any questions on the series."









Other tours approved by the BCCI
Tour to New Zealand in January-February 2014, comprising two Tests and five ODIs
Tour to England between July and September 2014, comprising five Tests, five ODIs and one T20






Cricket South Africa had announced, in July, dates for the India series, penning in two T20s, seven ODIs and three Tests between November 21 and January 19. The BCCI objected to the itinerary, though, with board secretary Sanjay Patel saying CSA had announced the schedule without obtaining the BCCI's consent.

The BCCI has had issues with CSA over the past year. The Indian board had "raised concerns" when it was known that Haroon Lorgat was in the running to take over as CSA chief; the BCCI and Lorgat are thought to have clashed over several issues, including the Future Tours Programme, the DRS and an ICC independent governance review, during the Lorgat's tenure as ICC chief executive officer. CSA officials had travelled to India in February to meet with the BCCI to discuss their objections to Lorgat, and, after his appointment, Lorgat had said improving relations with the BCCI was a priority. "If I need to sit across a table, to go to India, whatever it takes to smooth things over... I have to put CSA first," Lorgat had said. "When the issues come out, if it means I have offended someone and I need to apologise, I will."

I see England has been granted the rare privelege of 5 tests by us

2nd test starts with NZ-A and I see Vijay Zol is slated as an opener today.
India playing 4 specialist seamers and 2 spin bowling allrounders

well actually Zol batted at No.3 and went cheaply.

allroudner anderson and Bracewelll pulled NZ throuhg to a good total

Juneja gets a big hundred vs. NZ A and his FC average stands at 83.

meanwhile Piyush chawla tops scores for Somerset in first inning and then plucks out 5 wkts .....he is having a dream run-