Men's Final (Preview and Match Thread) - Djokovic V Murray

[CaledonianCraig]

First topic message reminder :

Tomorrow will see the meeting of the World No.1 and World No.2 in the final. I really am in two minds about how it will pan out so I will try to look at the various ways it could go.

I will fancy Andy's chances strongly if his serve operates as well as it did against Janowicz but we know Djoko is a far superior returner. The rule of thumb between the pair is that the better server gets the result but we shall see if this is the case tomorrow.

Aggression is also key and Andy must be prepared to get his attacks in first and put Djokovic under pressure. If Andy lapses into bouts of passiveness as he can then he is asking for trouble and will hand the initiative to Novak and quite probably lose the match.

In my opinion and stats suggest as well that Andy is the better/more natural grass court player so that gives him an edge. On the other hand thus far at this Wimbledon I would say Novak has been more consistent so that works in his favour. That is why this is so tight to call in my opinion.

I am hoping that last year's pain Andy had to suffer in defeat will inspire him to do what it takes to avoid more heartbreak and push him over the winning line tomorrow. This could go either way and I just hope for the neutral that it is a classic match and no doubt the best player will win on the day. Enjoy the final.

Craig

[Chydremion]

The net is clearly British!

[LuvSports!]

I am Spartacus!

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Murray really needs to be more aggressive here

[Chydremion]

Go Djoko go go Djoko gogo.

[bogbrush]

I'm sorry but I'm going out. This is utterly boring to the uncommitted viewer.

[Chydremion]

Can someone answer this question for me?

Did under Lendl Murray become a player with much more of a champions mentality and won the US Open because of that. Or is he still the same choker he was back in 08-11 and only won the US Open because of luck/wind, and still loses/will lose every slam final without wind?

[kingraf]

Not a time violation in sight!

Im firmly supporting the umpire...

[ChequeredJersey]

We'll see won't we?

[JuliusHMarx]

Can someone answer this question for me?

Did under Lendl Murray become a player with much more of a champions mentality and won the US Open because of that. Or is he still the same choker he was back in 08-11 and only won the US Open because of luck/wind, and still loses/will lose every slam final without wind?

Choke from Chokovic at BP down

[Josiah Maiestas]

It's a good job I have grass that needs cutting. Two cart horses pushing is not for me

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Would love to know why Novak persists with going to the net despite his awful netplay

[Chydremion]

Why can't Djoko keep his footing on grass, really its ridicoulous>

[Chydremion]

When was the last time a pusehr won Wimbledon?

[ShahenshahG]

Put some plimsolls on Novak

[ChequeredJersey]

That was 41 seconds

[kingraf]

I guess time violations really are punishments handed out in view of reputation

[Cogen]

I guess since this is not an ATP event, the umpires don't have to do what the ATP says.  

[ChequeredJersey]

Fair play to them both, must be sweating buckets out there

[summerblues]

It'll be long. Very long. Even if it's in straight sets.

How true

[Cogen]

Murray second in the tournament on aces, now on 88. Only behind Janowicz on 103. Djokovic third with 78.

[Chydremion]

Same scoreline so far as last year!

[Guest]

Murrays won this with ease.

[Chydremion]

Damn Djokovic has become such a choker nowadays. Little mental strength and clutch, compared to 2011.

[Guest]

I can hear castle getting louder and louder. Only means one thing......

[ChequeredJersey]

Never seen Djokovic so angry, at least not for ages! This set is Murray's

[invisiblecoolers]

Told you guys Murray is a way better grass court player than Novak is and it would be a shame if Murray losses from this position.

The only player who can beat Murray currently in grass is himself.  

[ryan86]

I know the shot Djokovic wanted to challenge was actually in and he would been wrong anyway, but could a player (Murray in this instance) challenge a call that they believe was incorrect even if it would result in them losing the point?

[summerblues]

Just like the first set, a very good game to serve out the set.

So far at least, and perhaps somewhat surprisingly, Andy has been more composed on the big points.

[Guest]

Pretty much all over. Novak is not a no. 1 on grass. Anti climax final really, Murray too good

[summerblues]

The only player who can beat Murray currently in grass is himself.  

Indeed, so far it looks like that was a pretty good call with Andy and Wimbledon that you had made.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Murray's been good, but Novak has been pants so far.

Needs something special now

[invisiblecoolers]

The only player who can beat Murray currently in grass is himself.  

Indeed, so far it looks like that was a pretty good call with Andy and Wimbledon that you had made.

 

[Bull]

Murray sucks!

[ChequeredJersey]

Yeah good call, Murray is outplaying him in every aspect. Though the players are too similar in style for me to truly enjoy a lot of the rallies, opposites facing tends to be more interesting IMO but congratulations Murray for getting one hand around that trophy so far

[kingraf]

Not long now till Nole starts resembling someone shot down from the sky. What odds can I get on him clutching his shoulder?

[slashermcguirk]

Worst Novak serving I have ever seen, why is his serve so much slower than normal?!! Very poor performance, should never lose a 4-1 lead!

[summerblues]

Murray sucks!

Lucky for him that all the other guys may suck even worse

[Jahu]

Djoko is a Joke. Go Murray Goooooooo

[ChequeredJersey]

That's not fair kingraf

[Jahu]

This match should of been Murray-Delpo anyway.

[ChequeredJersey]

If someone insinuated that about Rafa you'd be rightly indignant

[whocares]

Djokovic is now a long long way from winning this...

[ShahenshahG]

Has rafa got a record of doing it - for that matter has Djoko?

[summerblues]

That's not fair kingraf

I actually think it is reasonably fair.  Did he not take an MTO last year in the USO final in the fifth, just as Andy was going to serve for the title?

[Guest]

Can't stand murray. Disappointing final, poor tournament in my opinion. Djokovic has done a lisicki. His serve today woeful

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Djokovic has been awful today.

Fair play to Murray. Will be a great victory for him

[Chydremion]

Ye Murray returns Djokos serve with ease.

[Chydremion]

So if Murray wins today he'll finally drop the choker-tag. No more wind-slam wonder

[CaledonianCraig]

Can't stand murray. Disappointing final, poor tournament in my opinion. Djokovic has done a lisicki. His serve today woeful

Fine you can't stand him - I can livew with that but at least have the decency to salute the champion elect eh?

[Guest]

I said Murray has been too good in my previous post.

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