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Post by CaledonianCraig Sat 06 Jul 2013, 10:00 pm

First topic message reminder :

Tomorrow will see the meeting of the World No.1 and World No.2 in the final. I really am in two minds about how it will pan out so I will try to look at the various ways it could go.

I will fancy Andy's chances strongly if his serve operates as well as it did against Janowicz but we know Djoko is a far superior returner. The rule of thumb between the pair is that the better server gets the result but we shall see if this is the case tomorrow.

Aggression is also key and Andy must be prepared to get his attacks in first and put Djokovic under pressure. If Andy lapses into bouts of passiveness as he can then he is asking for trouble and will hand the initiative to Novak and quite probably lose the match.

In my opinion and stats suggest as well that Andy is the better/more natural grass court player so that gives him an edge. On the other hand thus far at this Wimbledon I would say Novak has been more consistent so that works in his favour. That is why this is so tight to call in my opinion.

I am hoping that last year's pain Andy had to suffer in defeat will inspire him to do what it takes to avoid more heartbreak and push him over the winning line tomorrow. This could go either way and I just hope for the neutral that it is a classic match and no doubt the best player will win on the day. Enjoy the final.

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Post by lydian Sun 07 Jul 2013, 4:40 pm

Not enjoying this match, Djokovic is poor today it has to be said and serve is truly woeful. The jingoistic overflow is awful as well. All Murray has to do right now is get the ball in play...but fair play to him he's the better player on the day.
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Post by whocares Sun 07 Jul 2013, 4:41 pm

changed streams and got mcenroe again (on espn it seems)

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Post by Jahu Sun 07 Jul 2013, 4:42 pm

Murray too good today. Djoko missing his eggs.
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Post by Cogen Sun 07 Jul 2013, 4:42 pm

If that 0-30 passing shot hadn't clipped the net, that was probably game set and match. So close....

Keep it going, Andy! Hug 

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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 07 Jul 2013, 4:42 pm

Wouldn't have anything to do with a throwaway remark seven years ago is it? If so consult Tim Henman and Des Kelly as to the full facts first eh? Oh and the other myth? It is really pathetic that a newspaper stoops to photoshopping a Paraguay jersey onto Murray just to stir up some bigotry.
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Post by bogbrush Sun 07 Jul 2013, 4:43 pm

I'm very pleased. Djokovic has looked a very limited player when faced with another super-fit wall.
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Post by ryan86 Sun 07 Jul 2013, 4:43 pm

I'm surprised they didn't link that Gone With the Wind reference with the US Open final.

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Post by Silver Sun 07 Jul 2013, 4:43 pm

The commentary is actually nowhere near as bad as I expected it to be. Nothing in terms of insight, naturally, but not as OTT on the bias as some previous matches. Novak commanding due respect in some ways, even if he's playing like a drain. Dull match, but credit to Murray who's playing very well and giving away nothing. He'd be a match for most today.

Edit: Hah! Good call, ryan.

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Post by bogbrush Sun 07 Jul 2013, 4:44 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:Wouldn't have anything to do with a throwaway remark seven years ago is it? If so consult Tim Henman and Des Kelly as to the full facts first eh? Oh and the other myth? It is really pathetic that a newspaper stoops to photoshopping a Paraguay jersey onto Murray just to stir up some bigotry.
Going on about it isn't too smart either.
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Post by Chydremion Sun 07 Jul 2013, 4:45 pm

Go Djoko go go Djoko gogo

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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 07 Jul 2013, 4:45 pm

bogbrush wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:Wouldn't have anything to do with a throwaway remark seven years ago is it? If so consult Tim Henman and Des Kelly as to the full facts first eh? Oh and the other myth? It is really pathetic that a newspaper stoops to photoshopping a Paraguay jersey onto Murray just to stir up some bigotry.
Going on about it isn't too smart either.

It is if it educates some people with the facts.
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Post by bogbrush Sun 07 Jul 2013, 4:47 pm

Seriously? You seem to want everyone to like Andy.
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Post by lydian Sun 07 Jul 2013, 4:47 pm

Just got home, was listening to match on Radio5 Live...they kept carping on about Fred bloody Perry and him being the last winner 77 years ago and "go on Murray, make Britain proud"... vomit

Ridiculously jingoistic.
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Post by LuvSports! Sun 07 Jul 2013, 4:48 pm

not over.

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Post by Chydremion Sun 07 Jul 2013, 4:48 pm

GO DJOKO GO GO DJOKO GOGO

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Post by bogbrush Sun 07 Jul 2013, 4:49 pm

lydian wrote:Just got home, was listening to match on Radio5 Live...they kept carping on about Fred bloody Perry and him being the last winner 77 years ago and "go on Murray, make Britain proud"... vomit

Ridiculously jingoistic.
And anyone wonders why some people don't side with him.
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Post by Silver Sun 07 Jul 2013, 4:50 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:Wouldn't have anything to do with a throwaway remark seven years ago is it? If so consult Tim Henman and Des Kelly as to the full facts first eh? Oh and the other myth? It is really pathetic that a newspaper stoops to photoshopping a Paraguay jersey onto Murray just to stir up some bigotry.

Are you serious? Not everyone has to like your favourite player, mate.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 07 Jul 2013, 4:51 pm

bogbrush wrote:Seriously? You seem to want everyone to like Andy.

Not at all. Just gets a bit much listening to snide remarks bb.
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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 07 Jul 2013, 4:51 pm

Silver wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:Wouldn't have anything to do with a throwaway remark seven years ago is it? If so consult Tim Henman and Des Kelly as to the full facts first eh? Oh and the other myth? It is really pathetic that a newspaper stoops to photoshopping a Paraguay jersey onto Murray just to stir up some bigotry.

Are you serious? Not everyone has to like your favourite player, mate.

Nope and where did I say that anywhere on here?
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Post by Chydremion Sun 07 Jul 2013, 4:52 pm

Watch out for the CVAC COMEBACK.

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Post by Jahu Sun 07 Jul 2013, 4:52 pm

Yep anyone against Murray bite your tongue. Djoko will go down today.
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Post by bogbrush Sun 07 Jul 2013, 4:52 pm

Hmm.

Please, I'm fed up seeing tennis decided on fitness.
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Post by Tropicalfruiter Sun 07 Jul 2013, 4:56 pm

Andy: Rampant. Novak: not good enough.
But wait: what light on yonder hillside clad
breaks out in rosy fingered dawn?
Novak is doing his Zen meditation and is 3:2 up in the third.
I love Novak for how he can storm back boxing late in games
like some crazy Trojan. Never say Die!!!!

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sun 07 Jul 2013, 4:57 pm

Murray can't afford to lose this Championship. It was his best chance feasible
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Post by barrystar Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:00 pm

Djoko is still in this match for sure - Lisicki must be wishing they had Bo5 if she's watching this.
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Post by ryan86 Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:01 pm

They say the 7th game is the most vital - Murray has broke Djokovic all 3 times.

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Post by Jahu Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:03 pm

Oh Murray stop it!! So good today.
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Post by barrystar Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:04 pm

Well, well - Djoko's serve is as weak as I've ever seen in a big match. As others have said, that's what's holding him back. Third set has been poor quality by the standards one would expect.
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Post by Chydremion Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:08 pm

Murray moves so well on grass; compare that to clay.

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Post by barrystar Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:09 pm

Murray played extremely well for that hold, fantastic final point.
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Post by Jahu Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:09 pm

What a shot from Andy. Go Go Go.
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Post by Jahu Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:10 pm

Oh man, this is magiccccc from Andy.
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Post by Jahu Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:11 pm

All the Hollywood for Andy Wink
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Post by barrystar Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:11 pm

Sensational movement - fantastic stuff.
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Post by summerblues Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:11 pm

Oh my, so close now.

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Post by bogbrush Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:11 pm

That was actually quite good.
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Post by Chydremion Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:12 pm

The biggest game of Murray's career coming up?

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Post by Jahu Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:12 pm

Andy 4 points from history, Gooo goooooooooooo
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Post by barrystar Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:12 pm

This could be it - and you have to say he's earned his chance by waking up just in time this set. Goodness he wants this badly, but this time his desire is giving him wings and not crushing him.
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Post by Chydremion Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:13 pm

Amazing atmosphere right now.

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Post by Jahu Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:14 pm

Djoko is confused like a lamb in the woods.
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Post by barrystar Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:15 pm

If he wins now he can give up all the pretence that a slam is a slam THIS IS WIMBLEDON THIS IS THE ONE
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Post by Jahu Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:18 pm

Don't be afraid Andy, take it.
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Post by barrystar Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:19 pm

I think he has suddenly tightened up - thank God it's at 5-4 in the third. Plenty of time to regroup.
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Post by Chydremion Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:20 pm

Crowd getting excited too early. The crowd is choking lol.

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Post by barrystar Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:20 pm

good net cord!
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Post by LuvSports! Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:21 pm

gutsy.

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Post by ryan86 Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:22 pm

Reminiscent of Goran's final.

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Post by Jahu Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:23 pm

Yessssssssssssssss what a point
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Post by barrystar Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:23 pm

This game is like a mini-snapshot of Murray and Henman's careers
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