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Post by CaledonianCraig Sat 06 Jul 2013, 10:00 pm

First topic message reminder :

Tomorrow will see the meeting of the World No.1 and World No.2 in the final. I really am in two minds about how it will pan out so I will try to look at the various ways it could go.

I will fancy Andy's chances strongly if his serve operates as well as it did against Janowicz but we know Djoko is a far superior returner. The rule of thumb between the pair is that the better server gets the result but we shall see if this is the case tomorrow.

Aggression is also key and Andy must be prepared to get his attacks in first and put Djokovic under pressure. If Andy lapses into bouts of passiveness as he can then he is asking for trouble and will hand the initiative to Novak and quite probably lose the match.

In my opinion and stats suggest as well that Andy is the better/more natural grass court player so that gives him an edge. On the other hand thus far at this Wimbledon I would say Novak has been more consistent so that works in his favour. That is why this is so tight to call in my opinion.

I am hoping that last year's pain Andy had to suffer in defeat will inspire him to do what it takes to avoid more heartbreak and push him over the winning line tomorrow. This could go either way and I just hope for the neutral that it is a classic match and no doubt the best player will win on the day. Enjoy the final.

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Post by Jahu Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:24 pm

Yesssssssssssssssss Andy takes it yessssssssssssssssssssss
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Post by summerblues Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:25 pm

Well done Andy, congrats!

That last game was too close for comfort but he did it.

It certainly would have been odd if he had ended up his career with one slam only.

BTW, this is the first time since W10 that Nole lost a slam match in straight sets.

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Post by bogbrush Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:25 pm

Boring last game though.
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Post by Dave. Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:26 pm

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!! HE'S DONE IT! 77 YEARS OF HURT! HAS! GONE! ANDY MURRAY, YOU BEAUTY! YOU INSPIRATION! YOU HERO!!!!!

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Post by LuvSports! Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:26 pm

best game of the match, congrats andy murray, WIMBLEDON CHAMP!

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Post by Jahu Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:26 pm

Superb play by Andy. Djoko a little tired from the SF, but Andy too good for him today.


Long live Ivan Lendl!!!
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Post by laverfan Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:28 pm

Will BBC still repeat whether Murray can win a Wimbledon or not? Laugh

Lendl has made a man out of a boy. thumbsup

Murray. clap clap

Djokovic. Upwards and onwards.

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Post by The Facts Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:28 pm

The extent they have slowed down the courts is quite appalling tbh one of the most poor Wimbledon finals in history

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Post by kingraf Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:29 pm

Straight sets!! With this Novak moves to one defeat from joining Federer on a career Grand slam of GS final defeats. He just needs to lose the Aus Open final. Nadal and Murray just need RG defeats to achieve the feat.
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Post by banbrotam Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:32 pm

Phew!! In fairness I think Andy's been better all day - but with Novak you never know

I also think that it was the faster playing conditions that caused Novak's error as if you see their head to head on the fastest of their matches, I'd argue that Andy has won them all

Genuinely rivalry now, certainly away from clay they've contested all but one of those slam finals

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Post by Cogen Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:33 pm

Is it sad that this is perhaps the happiest day of my life? notworthy 

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Post by Bull Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:34 pm

Cogen wrote:Is it sad that this is perhaps the happiest day of my life? notworthy 
Really?

he won Wimbledon not like it was 77 years in the making lol

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Post by banbrotam Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:34 pm

The Facts wrote:The extent they have slowed down the courts is quite appalling tbh one of the most poor Wimbledon finals in history

Eh? If you think it was poor, fair enough - but that was easiest the fastest Wimbledon final in years, which is what helped Murray. He constantly had first serves in the 125-131 zone etc

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Post by GLove39 Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:36 pm

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Post by kingraf Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:36 pm

Cogen - In a way, yes. But I understand what you mean, when a player you like finally comes good, it does feel like a personal triumph. Congrats to all Murray fans, and the man himself
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Post by laverfan Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:36 pm

The Facts wrote:The extent they have slowed down the courts is quite appalling tbh one of the most poor Wimbledon finals in history

1973 W? Did you watch that?

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Post by The Facts Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:38 pm

That's hardly saying much it has played like a wet clay court for the last 4 years at least

Neither Andy nor Novak would make a final in years when Wimbledon was played like an actual fast grass event

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Post by Haddie-nuff Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:38 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:No I say you are wrong. Hatred comes from people who have issues specifically towards one of the players and I don't get the gist that there is anything of that towards Novak. Any cheering of double faults and missed shots are by over-excited supporters, not what you want to see, but understandable in the heat of the moment. This s not down to any maliciousness though just more over-enthusiasm. If Novak wins Centre Court will stand as one to greet him as the champion.


Congratulations Andy... Im sure you are over the moon Craig clap  well done

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Post by Guest Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:41 pm

Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo 

The boy done good.

Congrats to Andy and his team and family and also to his supporters!

Djokovic a class act as always.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:43 pm

Indeed over the moon and in straight sets as well. Immense achievement and Andy is now a duel slam winner joining many other great players on that mark.

Sure Novak played poorly but Andy came through torrid times to win. Besides I have sat through slam finals that Andy has not done himself justice in do what goes around comes around I suppose. As always Novak was a great sport in defeat - he handles himself very well as a No.1 should. Credit to him - it wasn't his day but he'll win many more slams.
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Post by banbrotam Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:44 pm

My fellow Murray fans of little faith - I told you it would be easy laughing Erm Hug 

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Post by banbrotam Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:46 pm

kingraf wrote:Cogen - In a way, yes. But I understand what you mean, when a player you like finally comes good, it does feel like a personal triumph. Congrats to all Murray fans, and the man himself    


Cheers kingraf. I hope Rafa's back and we can have the fab four in the US Open semi's and some fun Smile 

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Post by slashermcguirk Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:47 pm

Congrats Murray fans, he played well. Never seen djokovic serve so poorly. He just wasn't at the races today, totally out of sorts. Well done Murray

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Post by Guest Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:47 pm

Boxing real mans sport?

Pffffft

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Post by Jahu Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:48 pm

One: What are you on? Can I have some?
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Post by laverfan Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:49 pm

Congrats to Murray fans for the faith in him. thumbsup

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:49 pm

Jahu wrote:One: What are you on? Can I have some?

Its called truth

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Post by banbrotam Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:50 pm

The Facts wrote:That's hardly saying much it has played like a wet clay court for the last 4 years at least

Neither Andy nor Novak would make a final in years when Wimbledon was played like an actual fast grass event


Nonsene. Please if you're going to have a wind up at least have some semblence of truth in your comment.

Murray would have had no problem in the old days simply because;-

1) He has fast hands
2) Loves fast condtions as he feeds on pace
3) Is the msot natural player at the net in today's game (doesn't do it enough)
4) Is a great returner

If anything the medium paced hard courts go against him - virtually all Andy's 29 wins (I think it is now) have come from the 29 'fastest' courts he played on

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Post by Jahu Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:50 pm

This is in my top 10 of tennis finals that has made me so happy to see the player I wanted to win, win it Smile
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Post by Danny_1982 Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:52 pm

Commiserations to Novak fans. And to Novak.

Murray.... Yahoo  what a performance. What a way to win it! I think I had 3 heart attacks in that last game!

Andy Murray, Wimbledon champion!! clap Yahoo Bubbly 

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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:52 pm

Jahu wrote:One: What are you on? Can I have some?

If its doing that to his head I most certainly do NOT want it. Laugh 
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Post by Bull Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:52 pm

So he won Wimbledon not like he is a god too many people sucking up to him, congrats to him but come on his not the best in the sport or good enough to be considered no1

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Post by The Facts Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:54 pm

Murray more natural then Roger at the net lool and your calling me the windup

Have you only been watching the Roger of the last 2 years???

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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:54 pm

Well I will not say it was destiny, I will not say Djoko was tired, I will not say crowd support helped him, Only I will say Andy you are a champion. Andy you deserves the title. Andy you are the man of each of tennis fan. Andy just awesome. Andy superb. I dont have words to express your game. Played like champ and finally won like a champ. Congrats all my friends from UK. Your lad has done it. Congrats!!!!!
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Post by kingraf Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:55 pm

OneTwo is the resident Conspiracy Theorist on 606. He thinks that the Queen and the rest of Planet Zog control the Wimbledon result. Let him be. Plenty comparisons between boxing and tennis, as Murray will attest.
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Post by Dave. Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:55 pm

It's a shame so many are so bitter. Novak can take his beatings, it's a mark of the man.

But the fact is, Andy Murray is the Wimbledon Champion.

Those who don't like it, tough! Wink

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Post by Tropicalfruiter Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:56 pm

kingraf wrote:Straight sets!! With this Novak moves to one defeat from joining Federer on a career Grand slam of GS final defeats. He just needs to lose the Aus Open final. Nadal and Murray just need RG defeats to achieve the feat.      

What a deliciously freakazoid stat to pull out at a moment like this. You champ!

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Post by JuliusHMarx Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:56 pm

Wow - I have to say Facts and Bull are classic sore losers. Toys out of pram guys? Smile

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Post by bsando Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:57 pm

Bull wrote:So he won Wimbledon not like he is a god too many people sucking up to him, congrats to him but come on his not the best in the sport or good enough to be considered no1

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Post by The Facts Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:57 pm

Tough on Del Boy most defiantly have to feel for him

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Post by Bull Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:57 pm

Sore losers haha no, i dont care Julius lol if he won he won good for him lol

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:58 pm

2nd set and 3rd set were brutal for tennis, poor Novak was obviously not recovered from Delpo, well done to Argentina they deserve this victory
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Post by sportslover Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:59 pm

Great result Andy

Wow - The football wums are out in force on here ! LOL

Never mind wums the season will soon be starting.

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Post by Silver Sun 07 Jul 2013, 5:59 pm

laverfan wrote:Congrats to Murray fans for the faith in him. thumbsup

Hear hear. Sincere congratulations to all Murray fans, an excellent performance today and he deserves the trophy. After the heartbreak last year, it's good to see him win it at the very next attempt. Well done, Andy!

Commiserations to socal, HM and slasher - Novak not really at the races today, but there'll be other opportunities Hug 

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Post by carrieg4 Sun 07 Jul 2013, 6:00 pm

Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo 
Bubbly Bubbly Bubbly Bubbly 

So happy Very Happy 


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Post by Danny_1982 Sun 07 Jul 2013, 6:00 pm

Laugh loving all the haters.

One "Fact" that cannot be escaped though, is that Andy Murray is Wimbledon champion!!! Yahoo

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 07 Jul 2013, 6:00 pm

Well done to Murray. Brilliant stuff from him, and brilliant from Novak in defeat.

Now you have to wonder just how many Murray can win?
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Post by erictheblueuk Sun 07 Jul 2013, 6:00 pm

That was one of the worst finals I've ever seen !

I couldn't be happier !
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Post by Josiah Maiestas Sun 07 Jul 2013, 6:02 pm

Djokovic gets annoyed too easily and can't hit many winners, but come on let's give Delpo his due, totally gave Britain it's first Wimbledon since 1936
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Post by banbrotam Sun 07 Jul 2013, 6:02 pm

The Facts wrote:Murray more natural then Roger at the net lool and your calling me the windup

Have you only been watching the Roger of the last 2 years???


I've been watching Tennis for nearly 40 years and was a fan of Federer way before his infamous Sampras victory. He's good at the net, but I think Andy is better - not miles better, but better - that's my opinion

I think that we have to call into question your knowledge of the game if you think that my point is a windup. I'm quite happy to concede if put to me in the correct manner, that Roger might be better. Would you like to try?

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