Men's Final (Preview and Match Thread) - Djokovic V Murray

[CaledonianCraig]

First topic message reminder :

Tomorrow will see the meeting of the World No.1 and World No.2 in the final. I really am in two minds about how it will pan out so I will try to look at the various ways it could go.

I will fancy Andy's chances strongly if his serve operates as well as it did against Janowicz but we know Djoko is a far superior returner. The rule of thumb between the pair is that the better server gets the result but we shall see if this is the case tomorrow.

Aggression is also key and Andy must be prepared to get his attacks in first and put Djokovic under pressure. If Andy lapses into bouts of passiveness as he can then he is asking for trouble and will hand the initiative to Novak and quite probably lose the match.

In my opinion and stats suggest as well that Andy is the better/more natural grass court player so that gives him an edge. On the other hand thus far at this Wimbledon I would say Novak has been more consistent so that works in his favour. That is why this is so tight to call in my opinion.

I am hoping that last year's pain Andy had to suffer in defeat will inspire him to do what it takes to avoid more heartbreak and push him over the winning line tomorrow. This could go either way and I just hope for the neutral that it is a classic match and no doubt the best player will win on the day. Enjoy the final.

Craig

[Chydremion]

Crowd already on the verge of orgasming

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

3 unforced errors to start from Djokovic. Not good

[Chydremion]

Djokovic should win this first game. Keep the crowd out of it as much as possible.

[Chydremion]

Judging by the length of the rallies, this match is gonna last 7 hours.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

The vicious crowd showing a lot of hatred, applauding that Djokovic winner...

[Silver]

I won't be commenting here, but for anyone who's watching - enjoy the match.

[ChequeredJersey]

Endurance rallying at its finest here. Going to be a long one...

[ChequeredJersey]

Well broken, kudos to manage that with Djoker hanging in so hard

[Jahu]

Andy needs to risk it a little with some clean winners. Djoko is tired.

[ChequeredJersey]

No he isn't. Both such good returners I'm not sure how much of an advantage service games are

[summerblues]

Djoko is tired.

Doubt it.

[kingraf]

I think Djokovic is on a hiding. Murray comfortably the better grass court player, of course, Djoko is a warrior, but Im giving it to Murray in three, four if Djoko refuses to to go gently into the night

[Chydremion]

Yes, found a stream with commentators from my own country. Dont' have to put up anymore with Simon Reed and co hyping Murray up to the sky.

[Chydremion]

Djoko is tired.

Doubt it.

Indeed. Apart from one five setter Djoko won all his matches in straight sets. He has won grand slams were he had a tougher road to the final. Guys like him don't get tired that quickly. He looked pretty fit still in his fifth set against Delpo.

[Chydremion]

Murray getting owned on second serve. Winning 20%.

[bogbrush]

Yes, found a stream with commentators from my own country. Dont' have to put up anymore with Simon Reed and co hyping Murray up to the sky.

I've got McEnroe over here. Impartial commentary, bliss.

[Chydremion]

Yes, found a stream with commentators from my own country. Dont' have to put up anymore with Simon Reed and co hyping Murray up to the sky.

I've got McEnroe over here. Impartial commentary, bliss.

Prepare for hearing him declare the winner of this match GOAT.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Djokovic really is awful on the overheads

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

So many unforced errors coming from Novak this set. Murray needs to take advantage

[Trebs]

Come on Murray!

[CaledonianCraig]

First set here is super key in these conditions surely. Murray must hold here or else he may live to regret it.

[ChequeredJersey]

Uh oh

[summerblues]

Prepare for hearing him declare the winner of this match GOAT.

I quite like McEnroe.  He is willing to jump on bandwagons but I think that is just part of his job description; if you filter that out, his commentary is quite good.

[Josiah Maiestas]

I knew Novak would take a while to get going!

The crowd are far too loud every point Murray wins so I have to mute  

Give the crowd some lemons Novak

[Chydremion]

No authority from Layhani there at all.

[whocares]

Prepare for hearing him declare the winner of this match GOAT.

I quite like McEnroe.  He is willing to jump on bandwagons but I think that is just part of his job description; if you filter that out, his commentary is quite good.

Good summary. He's as impartial as anyone on BBC payroll could be I guess.
Key game this one.

[bogbrush]

He's not on BBC here. I've got TSN.

[Cogen]

At the moment it seems like any hold down the bottom end is going to be huge for both guys.

Sun causing problems on serve. Huge hold for Andy.

[Chydremion]

Murray's attitude looks far more lik a champion than it did 1,5 years ago.

[whocares]

He's not on BBC here. I've got TSN.

Apologies, thought I was watching the bbc stream!

[summerblues]

That was some pretty bad serving from Andy in that game, but he still pulled through.

[Josiah Maiestas]

This match has the level of an ATP 250, can't believe anyone would pay to be courtside

[summerblues]

Pretty good service game to serve the set out.

[bogbrush]

Boy, I can't see Murray losing this, Djokovic looks hopeless.

Then again, similar was being said last year..........

[summerblues]

This match has the level of an ATP 250, can't believe anyone would pay to be courtside

I am not a huge fan of this style they play, but they are pretty good at it - even today though admittedly not the highest standard we have seen from them.  Plus, this is a Wimbledon final; so that alone makes it interesting irrespective of the level of play.

[Chydremion]

Djokovic needs to take confidence from the fact that in his last three matches against Murray he has come back from a set down to beat the Scott.

[Chydremion]

They're good players, but when you see their slow hardcourt type rallies in a Wimbledon final, you really start to miss Federer on a day like this.

[laverfan]

Djokovic looks lethargic compared to Murray who is all pumped up.

If this ends up being a straight sets victory, Nadal v Berdych 2010 is the last straight sets championship.

[LuvSports!]

Neither are playing well, not a good standard, but murray wont care one bit if it continues like this. I think he is doing more of the running though...

[ChequeredJersey]

A lot of unforced errors from Novak today

[laverfan]

They're good players, but when you see their slow hardcourt type rallies in a Wimbledon final, you really start to miss Federer on a day like this.

70 points in 59 minutes, about a point a minute. Unless Djokovic plays a bit more up to the net, he is not making inroads into Murray's BL.

[ChequeredJersey]

I have to go at 5, this isn't going to be nearly over by then, is it?

[laverfan]

Oxygen tanks/tents should be put into W courts next year.

[summerblues]

Djokovic looks lethargic compared to Murray who is all pumped up.

Yet, if it goes to five sets, I would expect Andy to be the more likely one to wilt.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Djokovic starting to get into this now, gets a break

[laverfan]

I have to go at 5, this isn't going to be nearly over by then, is it?

You kidding, Chyd? They will be done with the second set by then and starting the third.

Tank v Elastic Man...

[LuvSports!]

i agree sb, like at aus this year.

[laverfan]

If Murray's knee holds up, I expect Murray to steal this.

[Silver]

Novak is looking far more enterprising, coming into the net a lot more and seeking to be the aggressor. Andy's played only 5% of his shots inside the baseline this set, that is appalling. If he keeps playing like that, I want Novak to win.

[Chydremion]

I have to go at 5, this isn't going to be nearly over by then, is it?

You kidding, Chyd? They will be done with the second set by then and starting the third.

Tank v Elastic Man...

Hey I am Chyd!

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