The Ashes: 1st Test, Trent Bridge

by **Pal Joey** Fri 12 Jul 2013, 1:02 pm

First topic message reminder :

England:
Alastair Cook*, Joe Root, Jonathan Trott, Kevin Pietersen, Ian Bell, Jonny Bairstow,
Matt Prior†, Stuart Broad, Graeme Swann, Steven Finn, James Anderson

Australia:
Shane Watson, Chris Rogers, Ed Cowan, Michael Clarke*, Steve Smith, Phil Hughes,
Brad Haddin†, Peter Siddle, Mitchell Starc, James Pattinson, Ashton Agar

by kingraf Sat 13 Jul 2013, 3:44 pm

Do you always know if a ball has carried, then Mike??

by mystiroakey Sat 13 Jul 2013, 3:44 pm

Kp fan - did you not see the first bowl bowled by jimmy!!!!

seriously- the lads look drained out there. the break is exactly what they need and they will come back with more jaffas..

by dyrewolfe Sat 13 Jul 2013, 3:44 pm

Root you beaut!

Change of bowler bring rewards as Rogers perishes for 14. Aus 111-2.

Still, that just brings Clarke into play...lots of work to do yet...

by Corporalhumblebucket Sat 13 Jul 2013, 3:45 pm

Admiral Nelson playing a blinder Yahoo

by kingraf Sat 13 Jul 2013, 3:46 pm

Dont think anyone really blames Broad for not walking, but lets not pretend there are gross inconsistencies in the ICC....

On to the match... Im nearly in the money now!!

by mystiroakey Sat 13 Jul 2013, 3:47 pm

wow look at all them pies from swanny!

jeas. this is not his ground,.

by Duty281 Sat 13 Jul 2013, 3:48 pm

I had my feet firmly on the floor! laughing

Anyway, as expected the new ball didn't do much. As the ball gets older and older, the ball reverse swings more, and spins more. Perfect wicket at just the right time for England. 111/2, 200 to get. England favourites.

Now a bit of negativity. Finn has to be dropped for the next test. Yes, he is a wicket-taking threat, but he offers the square root of naff all in terms of control. You can almost put your house on Finn sending down at least one rubbish ball per over. You simply can't build pressure on the opposition if you have Steven Finn bowling at one end. Get Tremlett in for the next test. Send Finn back to county cricket to learn control. They're both a similar style of bowler, but Tremlett offers much greater control and a far superior economy rate to boot.

by kingraf Sat 13 Jul 2013, 3:49 pm

What are the odds that the score would be 111/2? I called it two pages ago!

I am a cricket guru...

by KP_fan Sat 13 Jul 2013, 3:50 pm

Duty281 wrote:
Finn has to be dropped for the next test. Get Tremlett in for the next test. .

Not Bresnan laughing

by mystiroakey Sat 13 Jul 2013, 3:50 pm

kingraf wrote:What are the odds that the score would be 111/2? I called it two pages ago!

I am a cricket guru...

i would have given you large odds.. good call

by kingraf Sat 13 Jul 2013, 3:51 pm

kingraf wrote:Nearing that 250 Mark...
If Michael Clarke isnt in before the deficit is 200, Id make Australia favorites... So anything around 111/2.

by Duty281 Sat 13 Jul 2013, 3:51 pm

KP_fan wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
Finn has to be dropped for the next test. Get Tremlett in for the next test. Send Finn back to county cricket to learn control..

Not Bresnan

Rather have the Bres man than Finn though.

by GSC Sat 13 Jul 2013, 3:51 pm

We aren't allowed to mention Finn and control

Has not been his best game

by mystiroakey Sat 13 Jul 2013, 3:53 pm

ONIONS!!!!!!!!!!!

by KP_fan Sat 13 Jul 2013, 3:53 pm

Duty281 wrote:
KP_fan wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
Finn has to be dropped for the next test. Get Tremlett in for the next test. Send Finn back to county cricket to learn control..

Not Bresnan

Rather have the Bres man than Finn though.

if you are ready to paly Bresnan....bring Bopara..he can bowl just as fast and as good / bad laughing

and a batsman to boost the batting

by Duty281 Sat 13 Jul 2013, 3:54 pm

mystiroakey wrote:ONIONS!!!!!!!!!!!

He's the extra ingredient that England need to cook these Aussies into a right stew!

by Duty281 Sat 13 Jul 2013, 3:54 pm

KP_fan wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
KP_fan wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
Finn has to be dropped for the next test. Get Tremlett in for the next test. Send Finn back to county cricket to learn control..

Not Bresnan

Rather have the Bres man than Finn though.

if you are ready to paly Bresnan....bring Bopara..he can bowl just as fast and as good / bad
and a batsman to boost the batting

Tremlett
Onions
Bresnan

Order of preference, I think.

by Mike Selig Sat 13 Jul 2013, 3:54 pm

kingraf wrote:Do you always know if a ball has carried, then Mike??

Not absolutely always, but not far off. You certainly know when you've dropped it like Ramdin (or before that Rashid Latif) did...

by kingraf Sat 13 Jul 2013, 3:55 pm

And you absolutely know you edged it as is the case with Broad...

by mystiroakey Sat 13 Jul 2013, 3:59 pm

anderson has had the rest needed- get him straight on!

by mystiroakey Sat 13 Jul 2013, 4:02 pm

good bolwing broad

by Duty281 Sat 13 Jul 2013, 4:03 pm

We've had a few 'big' sessions over the test, a few 'crucial' sessions, and a few 'important' sessions. But this is the session that will probably decide the test.

Come on England!

by kingraf Sat 13 Jul 2013, 4:06 pm

If Australia end up on, about 215/3, I think its a very long way back for England... That Root wicket brought some life, mind.

by KP_fan Sat 13 Jul 2013, 4:07 pm

[quote="Duty281"]We've had a few 'big' sessions over the test, a few 'crucial' sessions, and a few 'important' sessions. But this is the session that will probably decide the test.

Come on England![/quote

no this session won't
match will be hanging 40-60 at the end of the day......the way it stands now

by Duty281 Sat 13 Jul 2013, 4:08 pm

Well KP_fan, if England take four more wickets today, or even more, they are clear favourites. If Australia rack up 90/0 or 90/1 in this session, they will be clear favourites.

by mystiroakey Sat 13 Jul 2013, 4:08 pm

we need 3 wickets minimum for me to feel like we are in a half decent position

by Duty281 Sat 13 Jul 2013, 4:08 pm

A question of patriotic importance:

What's the difference between James Anderson and James Bond?

Answer: James Anderson is more dashing, more heroic, more chivalrous, more handsome, and oh so more English.

So James, ready to save little old England again?

by mystiroakey Sat 13 Jul 2013, 4:09 pm

England have ended the last 3 days on top and switched it round after a good spell from aus--

We just need history to repeat and its all good.

by Duty281 Sat 13 Jul 2013, 4:10 pm

mystiroakey wrote:England have ended the last 3 days on top and switched it round after a good spell from aus--

We just need history to repeat and its all good.

That's the spirit. thumbsup

Get Clarke out early, that'll be their best batsman in the hutch.
Get Rogers out early, there's two new batsman at the crease.

by Duty281 Sat 13 Jul 2013, 4:14 pm

It's starting to swing a bit now, cloud cover is slowly developing.

Anderson and Broad are in their element.

by alfie Sat 13 Jul 2013, 4:16 pm

Anyone claiming to know what is going to happen in this game is either a fool or a liar.

It has gone up and down from ball one and just about anything could happen in the next hour...or the first hour tomorrow.

Right now is an important spell , with Clarke new to the crease and Broad and Anderson fresh from a break. But this alone won't decide the match...

by mystiroakey Sat 13 Jul 2013, 4:20 pm

bowlers so much better so far this session!

i am feeling a bit more confident.

by trebellbobaggins Sat 13 Jul 2013, 4:25 pm

pointlss if they can't take wickets roakey.

aussie in total control of the game and the series.

by mystiroakey Sat 13 Jul 2013, 4:25 pm

Gift really wasnt it.. but good bolwing and that is what happens

by Duty281 Sat 13 Jul 2013, 4:26 pm

Soft, soft dismissal. But James has done it for England!

Rogers gone, England are 7 away. Very soft dismissal though.

Oh Jimmy, Jimmy...

by mystiroakey Sat 13 Jul 2013, 4:26 pm

TREBBS MY MAN YOU ARE BACK!!!

Hug

by alfie Sat 13 Jul 2013, 4:26 pm

Rogers goes for a handy fifty ...one for a delighted Jimmy Anderson.

by **hampo17** Sat 13 Jul 2013, 4:27 pm

Big wicket that. Rodgers was set and has given his wicket away.

by dyrewolfe Sat 13 Jul 2013, 4:27 pm

JIMMEEEEEE!!!!

You beauty! He gets Cowan for 52 and Aus are now 124-3.

Will nerves just start to creep in?

by trebellbobaggins Sat 13 Jul 2013, 4:27 pm

see what I mean?
useless.

well done on the ashes victory aussie.

by trebellbobaggins Sat 13 Jul 2013, 4:28 pm

dyrewolfe wrote:JIMMEEEEEE!!!!

You beauty! He gets Cowan for 52 and Aus are now 124-3.

Will nerves just start to creep in?

did Cowan get 6 sixes in the last over then?

by Duty281 Sat 13 Jul 2013, 4:29 pm

Wicket maiden then, 124/3.

by alfie Sat 13 Jul 2013, 4:30 pm

Yeah might look soft ...but Anderson was very clearly bowling to a plan there. Slower ball I think...good piece of deception. Saker part of that clap

by dyrewolfe Sat 13 Jul 2013, 4:31 pm

trebellbobaggins wrote:
dyrewolfe wrote:JIMMEEEEEE!!!!

You beauty! He gets Cowan for 52 and Aus are now 124-3.

Will nerves just start to creep in?

did Cowan get 6 sixes in the last over then?

Meh - just getting carried away...I meant Rogers... Doh

Methinks the heat may be cooking my brain.

by mystiroakey Sat 13 Jul 2013, 4:34 pm

This cricket is cooking my brain!!

I can handle the heat

by trebellbobaggins Sat 13 Jul 2013, 4:34 pm

mine was gone a long time ago.

by mystiroakey Sat 13 Jul 2013, 4:36 pm

Ball is almost at the perfect point.. Ball is moving. Lets make it work!

by alfie Sat 13 Jul 2013, 4:38 pm

What we need now is one of these two out in this spell from the two main quicks - Clarke preferably.
Because Cook can't bowl these two too long at once. And although I would expect a rested Swann to be a bit steadier , I am a bit concerned about Finn.

Bookies still have England favourites...hmm. Maybe.

Swann back...

by trebellbobaggins Sat 13 Jul 2013, 4:44 pm

Clarke is set. big double ton incoming.

they won't move him. especially with agent smith backing him up.

and we haven't even seen Agar the wonder-pup yet.

by mystiroakey Sat 13 Jul 2013, 4:44 pm

odds 4/5 england 5/4 aus

that for me makes it spot on even due to the home side lack of value!

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