Superman vs Batman

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Have I heard this right?

The new Superman film, will be him vs Batman.

Please confirm that this is a viscous rumour.

I think Afflecks Jaw can pull Batman off (not like that)

Bit of an over reaction. Affleck went through a period of making some poor film choices, but he was good in Argo and The Town. The film's bigger problem is that it will be directed by Snyder who is a bit of a hack.

DAVE667 wrote:

Galted wrote:Affleck's problem hasn't been so much a lack of acting ability as a habit of choosing sh1t films to act in.  Batman isn't exactly the most demanding role either, just requires looking stern-faced at times and away with the fairies at others - Keanu Reeves could probably play him, maybe.

Don't even say it in jest. I swear, if Affleck quits and Reeves gets the nod, I will hunt you down and steal all your tinfoil. Then what will your nipples do for entertainmemt huh?

You're probably right, Reeves would have to play Batdude, the result of Bruce Wayne smoking way too much pot in high school.

I've got a cheese grater for emergency nipple entertainment, thank you.

best actor i can think of to do it justice is Russell Crowe yes i know bit old but i think he be good

rick_dagless wrote:I think Afflecks Jaw can pull Batman off (not like that)

In that case why not get Eddie "The Eagle" Edwards....or Minnie Driver?

jimmyinthewell68 wrote:best actor i can think of  to do it justice is Russell Crowe       yes i know bit old but i think he be good

ha just remembered he played superman dad

Ben didnt convince me he was blind in daredevil what a mess that was . a black kingpin

Ryan Gosling as Batman? Could play Wayne quite well.

Whos to say we will see Bruce Wayne in this film? Going to be predominantly Superman based I'd say so surely Ben Affleck is capable of pulling a few faces in a mask

Matt Damon is robin  

DAVE667 wrote:In that case why not get Eddie "The Eagle" Edwards....or Minnie Driver?

i think Eddie is on a promo tour and other commitments, but Minnie could do a sterling effort i suspect

No he's not Jimmy

JGL is Robin, he was even named in TDKR.

does this mean Kevin Smith is directing?

Wasn't it Zac Snyder or whatever his name is? Either way, my hopes of an Avengers-esque film have been dashed with the Effleck casting.

Guy Pearce could do it quite well I reckon

Stella wrote:Have I heard this right?

The new Superman film, will be him vs Batman.

Please confirm that this is a viscous rumour.

Well, the plot's certainly thickening now, Stella

Strangely, Affleck has played Superman previously. Sort of. I believe that Hollywoodland was kind of a biopic of George Reeves, the original TV Superman.

i would have rather josh brolin .he would have made a good batman .his name has been mentioned . tom cruise perhaps , that guy from john carter taylor kitsch . the guy who played judge dread Karl urban . anyone anyone even that bloke from the Mr muscle adverts

Well done Christian Bale...........For not cheapening his portrayal of Batman by sticking him in this potboiler.........

He's too good an actor for this crud......

This story cheapens both the superman and Batman DC brands..........

Couldn't see Chris reeve agreeing to it...he had too much class..

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Well done Christian Bale...........For not cheapening his portrayal of Batman by sticking him in this potboiler.........

He's too good an actor for this crud......

This story cheapens both the superman and Batman DC brands..........

Couldn't see Chris reeve agreeing to it...he had too much class..

Did you never see Superman IV, Truss?

He'd signed up for a say in the the production then the owners cut corners and ended up giving the production team peanuts to work with.

Azzy Mahmood wrote:No he's not Jimmy

JGL is Robin, he was even named in TDKR.

I think it was a joke Azzy, considering the fact that Affleck and Damon are in a long-term relationship...

I think this film is a bad idea, but I like the idea of a Justice League film. They should have just went ahead with that.

Brandon Routh would make a good Batman, should be considered. Also, didn't Batman and Superman fight in the comic books (Batman won)? So it's not as if Zack Snyder and co. made this story up themselves.

Does anyone know if Bruce Wayne's ward, Dick Grayson, will be a part of this film? Or Chief O' Hara?

Il Gialloblu wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Well done Christian Bale...........For not cheapening his portrayal of Batman by sticking him in this potboiler.........

He's too good an actor for this crud......

This story cheapens both the superman and Batman DC brands..........

Couldn't see Chris reeve agreeing to it...he had too much class..

Did you never see Superman IV, Truss?

In fairness it was crud......But his intentions were honorable...He was very anti-nuclear weapons and was vocal about it...

Still couldn't see him prostituting himself in a Superman vs Batman exploitation yarn though.....Like Bale had too much dignity..

Bale has turned down over 20 million bucks..

incontinentia wrote:Does anyone know if Bruce Wayne's ward, Dick Grayson, will be a part of this film?

Probably will be played by Matt Damon.

incontinentia wrote:Brandon Routh would make a good Batman, should be considered. Also, didn't Batman and Superman fight in the comic books (Batman won)? So it's not as if Zack Snyder and co. made this story up themselves.

And the comic book Batman v Superman was written by Frank Miller, the same guy who did 300 to which Snyder then turned into a film.

just put this in the wrong thread but now wonder woman joining batman and superman .

Gal Gadot playing Wonder Woman, could be a decent bit of casting.

Other news is that Dwayne Johnson could be playing a different version of Green Lantern and that Bryan Cranston is rumoured to be playing Lex Luthor.

Dwayne Johnson looks to Herculean to be the Green Lantern.

kingraf wrote:Dwayne Johnson looks to Herculean to be the Green Lantern.

He doesn't always have to be massive   

However the John Stewart Green Lantern doesn't appear to be a small guy though.

kingraf wrote:Dwayne Johnson looks to Herculean to be the Green Lantern.

i wouldnt mind his look, its his total inability to act that may be the problem

put fast 5 on for a bit the other night. 5 was quite accurate as it was exactly how long i lasted before turning it over, although it certainly didnt seem like a fast 5 minutes

on this film, it appears its just going from one bad idea to another, if superman and batman were in the same world where the F$*k was superman when bane was threatening to blow up a whole city, getting lazy that superman. i thought man of steel was a pile of rubbish, most superman films have been since the very first so cant say i'll be looking forward to this

Compare Johnson to someone like the guy in Avatar and Johnson is awesome.

I do enjoy watching his films though, normally involve a lot of violence and things being blown up.

I think you are being a little harsh on Johnson. He wont be winning Oscars anytime soon but he can act. And its not always the same hardman either. Watch Pain & Gain or Be Cool to see his versatility.

compelling and rich wrote:

kingraf wrote:Dwayne Johnson looks to Herculean to be the Green Lantern.

i wouldnt mind his look, its his total inability to act that may be the problem

put fast 5 on for a bit the other night. 5 was quite accurate as it was exactly how long i lasted before turning it over, although it certainly didnt seem like a fast 5 minutes

on this film, it appears its just going from one bad idea to another, if superman and batman were in the same world where the F$*k was superman when bane was threatening to blow up a whole city, getting lazy that superman. i thought man of steel was a pile of rubbish, most superman films have been since the very first so cant say i'll be looking forward to this

Nolan's universe is separate to the new one. Affleck's Batman/Bruce Wayne isn't the same as Christian Bale.

Man of Steel was the kick off film to this universe as was Iron Man for Marvel's cinematic universe.

Personally don't think Johnson is as bad an actor as people make out, he has the obvious side to him, but also as films such as Pain and Gain show he has another side, even back to The Game Plan you can see he isn't all bad an actor. He's still growing as an actor and despite which was the highest grossing actor last year.

havent seen the two films you have mentioned, but fast 5, scorpion king and walking tall thought he was wooden and cack in them all, not seen gi joe but cant imagine it gets much better

only time ive seen him with a bit of charisma was when he was the rock!

dont think it helps he's been in a fair few stinkers, two obvious ones are mentioned above. in fact cant think of a single good film he's been in, hardly the sign of a great actor

hodge- iron man was a good introduction to the avengers world, man of steel was bad. if were not counting nolans there hasnt been a decent DC comic film. marvels had a few stinkers but also few good ones

would rather a xmen and spiderman link up than batman and superman

speaking of which just seen that there's a new xmen film out this year, based as a sequel after last stand

compelling and rich wrote:havent seen the two films you have mentioned, but fast 5, scorpion king and walking tall thought he was wooden and cack in them all, not seen gi joe but cant imagine it gets much better

only time ive seen him with a bit of charisma was when he was the rock!

dont think it helps he's been in a fair few stinkers, two obvious ones are mentioned above. in fact cant think of a single good film he's been in, hardly the sign of a great actor

Or the sign of a great thinker.

Very few actors have resumes that stand the test of time. Even the likes of Nicholson, De Niro and Pacino have done a few stinkers (and long before they decided to "do it for the paycheck") Johnson's worked hard to be seen as something other than a cartoon wrestler. His sheer size meant he was always going to be limited as to the roles he was going to get but he has screen presence and p!sses all over the likes of Hulk Hogan.

Personally I'm still waiting for someone to make a buddy movie with him and Stone Cold Steve Austin. They've always worked well together and even though the genre is filled with cliches, do it rght and you have a hit on your hands

to be fair sly and arnie were limited actors but they were in some great films, rockys, predator, terminator, rambo to name just a few. i agree that nearly all actors will have stinkers in there list. unfortunately for dwain pretty much all of his (that ive seen at least) have been

perhaps its simply me getting older and i expect more out of films. you could get away with cheesy cliche lines in the 80's, probably because they weren't cliche at the time.

walking tall was his best that ive seen, but he hardly sets the world alight in his role. he's no worse than vin diesel, but i can assure you thats no compliment

compelling and rich wrote:hodge- iron man was a good introduction to the avengers world, man of steel was bad. if were not counting nolans there hasnt been a decent DC comic film. marvels had a few stinkers but also few good ones

would rather a xmen and spiderman link up than batman and superman

Isn't Man of Steel the only film that will have relevance to the DC universe? Yes Green Lantern was made but can't see it being expanded on in any way, maybe a brief reference to Ryan Reynold's Hal Jordan but not much.

Iron Man worked because Marvel struck gold with Robert Downey Jr, it was a big risk which paid off. For a long time Tom Cruise was the man attached to play Tony Stark. The only real bad MCU film so far IMO is The Incredible Hulk (apart from the twist Iron Man 3 was a good film). Guardians Of The Galaxy will be the test, whether one of their small franchises can draw.

hodge wrote:

compelling and rich wrote:hodge- iron man was a good introduction to the avengers world, man of steel was bad. if were not counting nolans there hasnt been a decent DC comic film. marvels had a few stinkers but also few good ones

would rather a xmen and spiderman link up than batman and superman

Isn't Man of Steel the only film that will have relevance to the DC universe? Yes Green Lantern was made but can't see it being expanded on in any way, maybe a brief reference to Ryan Reynold's Hal Jordan but not much.

Iron Man worked because Marvel struck gold with Robert Downey Jr, it was a big risk which paid off. For a long time Tom Cruise was the man attached to play Tony Stark. The only real bad MCU film so far IMO is The Incredible Hulk (apart from the twist Iron Man 3 was a good film). Guardians Of The Galaxy will be the test, whether one of their small franchises can draw.

dont realy know much about whats in each universe but know what characters are from which

in DC, obvious we have the superman films, but catwomen, super girl, watchmen (forgot about this one, i didnt actually mind this one but was over hyped) swamp thing are all dc comics none which were great
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i thought few shockers of marvel films were ghost rider, incredible hulk, both fantastic fours, spiderman 3. i presume these arent in MCU?

downey jnr really does make iron man i agree, tom cruise would have ruined it. i dont particularity mind cruise but could see him pulling off stark

DAVE667 wrote:

compelling and rich wrote:havent seen the two films you have mentioned, but fast 5, scorpion king and walking tall thought he was wooden and cack in them all, not seen gi joe but cant imagine it gets much better

only time ive seen him with a bit of charisma was when he was the rock!

dont think it helps he's been in a fair few stinkers, two obvious ones are mentioned above. in fact cant think of a single good film he's been in, hardly the sign of a great actor

Personally I'm still waiting for someone to make a buddy movie with him and Stone Cold Steve Austin. They've always worked well together and even though the genre is filled with cliches, do it rght and you have a hit on your hands

I was watching Chuck on Netflix last week, Austin was the bad guy. Was funny watching the scrawny Zachary Levi take him out.

The only superhero movie ever worth watching was Kick Ass, and that's because it mocked the genre by showing it up to be as transparently ridiculous as it really is.

And it was funny.

The Fourth Lion wrote:The only superhero movie ever worth watching was Kick Ass, and that's because it mocked the genre by showing it up to be as transparently ridiculous as it really is.

And it was funny.

The apartment scene has to be in my top 20.

compelling and rich wrote:hodge- iron man was a good introduction to the avengers world, man of steel was bad. if were not counting nolans there hasnt been a decent DC comic film. marvels had a few stinkers but also few good ones

would rather a xmen and spiderman link up than batman and superman

What about Superman: The Movie, Superman 2 and Batman? All great films.

The Womble wrote:

compelling and rich wrote:hodge- iron man was a good introduction to the avengers world, man of steel was bad. if were not counting nolans there hasnt been a decent DC comic film. marvels had a few stinkers but also few good ones

would rather a xmen and spiderman link up than batman and superman

What about Superman: The Movie, Superman 2 and Batman? All great films.

yeah the original batman and batman returns were good not sure why i excluded them. when i was a kid i thought superman (reeves) was ok, since then gotten worse with time for me. said in a previous thread that superman as a super hero has never done it for me, too powerful without any personality. his only weakness was a piece of rock that everybody in the world could get hold of, and never rated his arch nemesis in luther. zod was alright

There are a number of problems/obstacles for DC/Superman.

The 1st problem, in my eyes, is that Superman 4 was so bad it ruined everybody's perception of the character. Then there was Superman Returns which was 19 years later so a new generation of fans and film-goers had to aquaint themselves with him, plus it wasn't half as good as people expected/wanted it to be and they felt let down. Batman has been fresh in the mind and consistently good (barring Batman and Robin) since 1989 so has been the 'main' superhero through many many childhoods.

Secondly, Nolan's Batman films were so good that they are now used as a precedent and if it doesn't quite live up to them, some people will dismiss it as not good enough. It's a harsh old business!

Thirdly, the rise of Marvel and their whole universe of films has re-invigorated the super-hero genre and I feel DC have now only realised that they need to try something similar without making it look like they are just copying the format.

Superman has been crying out for a re-boot for years, Man of Steel was good it wasn't epic but it was a very good film and if it is supposed to be a platform for more DC Universe films I think it did a pretty good job.

someone mentioned that the man of steel and the dark knight films ain't linked . i hope that's wrong and they use that batman in the up and coming film and the justice league . its suggested that batman comes out of retirement which goes along the same story as frank millers graphic novel dark knight returns

My hope is that certain people on here stop taking this b*ll*cks so seriously!