Leaving it all in the ring?

Carl Froch likes to talk about how he can fight in the trenches or how he will ''leave it all in the ring'' but he does not know the meaning of this phrase. it is often said but only a handful of fighters have broken through 1 pain barrier only to have to break through a few more to attain victory.

Here is my top 3:

Ali v Frazier 3 - Admitted it was closest he came to dying in the ring.
Chacon v Limon - Took a horendous beating for most of the fight but came back.....somehow
Ali v Norton - Jaw broken in the first round but still fought on to win

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:Carl Froch likes to talk about how he can fight in the trenches or how he will ''leave it all in the ring'' but he does not know the meaning of this phrase. it is often said but only a handful of fighters have broken through 1 pain barrier only to have to break through a few more to attain victory.

Here is my top 3:

Ali v Frazier 3 - Admitted it was closest he came to dying in the ring.
Chacon v Limon - Took a horendous beating for most of the fight but came back.....somehow
Ali v Norton - Jaw broken in the first round but still fought on to win

Ali lost the fight with Norton when he had a broken jaw.

Abraham v Miranda

There's also some dispute as to when the jaw got broken- Ali said it was in the first round, Norton claimed it was the last....

John Bloody Wayne wrote:Abraham v Miranda

Great shout.

Miranda is one dirty so and so. He elbowed and chined Abraham all night, broke his jaw and bloodied Abraham. I was amazed Abraham continued to fight on. Lets see Carl Froch take a beating like that and continue.

Henry Armstrong v Lou Ambers.

Legend has it that Armstrong had to swallow his own blood for the last 6 rounds before winning a decision.

The anti Froch part of this post must be a wind up surely?

I'm not for one second saying that Froch has gone to the depths the guys mentioned above have, but have you ever noticed how a boxing match is between, you know, two fighters....

Froch would need a partner to go to those depths. Is it his fault he hasn't had to?

It's about context and opponents.

Froch was getting well beaten by Taylor in the first half of their fight and also got knocked down, for the first time in his career I think, and prevailed. That was a tough night for him.

At a lower level, Danny Williams when his shoulder dislocated against Mark Potter. Refused to quit and went on to knock out Potter with his left.

May not have been top drawer but he had a mahoosive pair.

Tyson fighting with a broken back, of course. "Spinal."

Ignoring what Froch says you can't argue against him being a tough SOB who has on occasion gone through hell to get the win, Pascal, Taylor, Kessler II and to an extent Johnson weren't easy fights physically.

As much as he gets the micky taken out of him on here, you've got to hand it to Larry Big Pants for his showing against Norton. Pulling out a result like that in such a brutal fight while fighting with a torn bicep takes some doing.

Also, Marciano finding a way to get the job done in the rematch against Charles, when his nostril was cut clean in half and he was perilously close to being stopped on cuts.

Although the decision was a stinker, Jimmy Ellis deserves a mention here too, for his fight against Floyd Patterson. Ellis' nose was broken by an amazingly quick left-right combination in the second round, but he fought on for the other thirteen of them and didn't do badly at all, even if the judges were kind to him.

Mr Bounce wrote:At a lower level, Danny Williams when his shoulder dislocated against Mark Potter. Refused to quit and went on to knock out Potter with his left.

May not have been top drawer but he had a mahoosive pair.

didn't Audley do the same......?

Seems like you made this article to have a pop at Froch who is a proven fighter.

winchester wrote:Seems like you made this article to have a pop at Froch who is a proven fighter.

Wrong.

There is a video of Froch, at the time he was slightly less full of himself as he is now, dissing Ali. This was around the time he was calling out Calzaghe that this interview was made. In the interview he openly disregarded Ali's style of fighting and his personality. He said things like he would never fight like Ali as he likes to take the fight to his opponant insinuating that Ali was some type of runner.

I felt he was being immature. Ali was a proud champion who had the ability to dance and fight at the same time but one must not think that Ali was some kind of wimp because that man would go 100 rounds with you to secure victory. Thats when the Ali v Frazier 3 fight came into my head and Ali's reaction afterward claiming that it was the nearest he came to death in the ring.

Froch needs to watch that fight and SHUT UP. Ali and his peers in that era were of a different mould all together. Yes Ali toyed with some fighters but only because he could. When it came down to trench warfare Ali was as tough if not tougher then most and something like extream fatigue or a broken jaw was not going to stop him. For Froch to openly disregard Ali like that shows how up himself he is. Until Froch has a Ali v Frazier 3 fight on his resume then he should shut up. The Taylor, Pascal, and Kessler fights were all tough but compared to Ali's wars they were strolls in the park on a sunday afternoon. i will try to find that video for you guys to see for yourself.

Oh yeah he dissed Roy Jones jnr to for the same reasons.

PLUMB.

So you posted this article to have a pop at Froch.....

Confirmed

winchester wrote:So you posted this article to have a pop at Froch.....

Confirmed

 

Bit late to be asking Froch to shut up isn't it?


These comments were made more than four years ago.


Didn't he say he say the stuff about Ali's fighting style prior to his fight with Jermain Taylor? Perhaps he was goading Taylor into a fight you never know. He also said he regards Ali as a top five all timer.


Could the OP provide evidence where he slates Ali's personality? I don't remember that.

Ali was of course, some type of runner... Ali-Frazier III happened the way it happened because he didn't train properly and probably didn't have the legs to dance anymore (See Foreman fight). Note, there is no criticism in noting his fighting style, but he was a back foot fighter, who preferred fighters coming toward him. Of course Ali could go to the trenches (By the way I hate that term, can't we just say he could dig deep or something?), but that doesn't change the fact that even on his trench wars, Ali was rarely the come forward fighter.

Jorge Castro vs John David Jackson
George Foreman vs Alex Stewart
Saman Sorjaturong V Humberto Gonzalez
Iran Barkley vs Thomas Hearns
Chris Eubank vs Michael Watson II
Mike Weaver vs John Tate
Archie Moore vs Yvon Durelle
Most fights involving Mathew Saad Muhammad and Arturo Gatti

Lewis vs Klitschko

epic scrap

MM8 - Should probably delete that post.. Calling Vitali a warrior, or claiming he once left it all out in the ring is a Calling Beacon, for he should not be named.

This is very true Kingraf, never though of that. IM sure the Beacon will attract some unwanted minion to blow the opinion out the park using nothing but concrete facts.....

Seems strange to pick Froch as the target for abuse here. While he might not have been pushed to the level given in the extreme examples here, he's still clearly one strong willed SOB. Hardly his fault he hasn't had his jaw broken and had to fight through it. Froch has proved everything he needs to in the will/toughness department. It's one of his strongest assets. Very strange example to use.