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Post by GloriousEmpire Fri 26 Jul 2013, 6:34 pm

Not sure if there was a thread congratulating the NZ women on their 3-0 series clean sweep over England.

Returning the favour for England's equivalent victory at home.

The best two female teams in the world by a country mile, so well done to the Kiwi women.

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Post by Guest Fri 26 Jul 2013, 7:12 pm

Probably was one when you left us GG.

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Post by Submachine Fri 26 Jul 2013, 9:09 pm

The reigning 6 nations grand slam champions might disagree.

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Post by GloriousEmpire Mon 29 Jul 2013, 6:07 pm

Yes probably. But they'd also probably be wrong. Time will tell.

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Post by Shifty Mon 29 Jul 2013, 6:56 pm

the Russian ladies just beat England at 7's. That might be interesting in the long term.
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Post by Cyril Tue 30 Jul 2013, 8:10 am

Is Chickblacks the official name for the ladies side?

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Post by aucklandlaurie Tue 30 Jul 2013, 8:13 am


No its the Black Ferns.

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Post by Biltong Tue 30 Jul 2013, 8:19 am

I understand that the english ladies team is professional?
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Post by Cyril Tue 30 Jul 2013, 8:24 am

aucklandlaurie wrote:
No its the Black Ferns.
Heh, I was joking!

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Tue 30 Jul 2013, 8:34 am

The badminton team was called the Black Cocks but some idiot complained and they had to change the name. No different to the hockey Black Sticks who were able to keep theirs.

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Post by Biltong Tue 30 Jul 2013, 8:39 am

Good thing the All Blacks were never called the BlackJacks. Whistle 
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Post by Cyril Tue 30 Jul 2013, 8:48 am

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:The badminton team was called the Black Cocks but some idiot complained and they had to change the name.
I always thought that was an urban myth Headscratch

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Tue 30 Jul 2013, 9:19 am

No, it was more legendary: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10345531

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Post by aucklandlaurie Tue 30 Jul 2013, 9:36 am

Cyril wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote:
No its the Black Ferns.
Heh, I was joking!


You call that a joke?

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Post by Cyril Tue 30 Jul 2013, 9:57 am

aucklandlaurie wrote:
Cyril wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote:
No its the Black Ferns.
Heh, I was joking!


You call that a joke?
Jeebus. Lighten up, Mr Grumpy!

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Post by aucklandlaurie Tue 30 Jul 2013, 10:03 am

Cyril wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote:
Cyril wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote:
No its the Black Ferns.
Heh, I was joking!


You call that a joke?
Jeebus. Lighten up, Mr Grumpy!


No need to tell me to lighten up, I just dont get the joke. Why call me Mr grumpy?

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Post by Cyril Tue 30 Jul 2013, 10:09 am

aucklandlaurie wrote:
Cyril wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote:
Cyril wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote:
No its the Black Ferns.
Heh, I was joking!


You call that a joke?
Jeebus. Lighten up, Mr Grumpy!


No need to tell me to lighten up, I just dont get the joke. Why call me Mr grumpy?
This isn't going very well, is it?

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Post by disneychilly Tue 30 Jul 2013, 11:09 am

My mind is too warped for that. Happens if you YouTube 'The most offensive jokes ever'. There are 5 videos too. Not for the faint hearted though some are pretty gratuitous.

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Post by GloriousEmpire Tue 30 Jul 2013, 11:44 am

I love the foe feature. My life has been so calm and peaceful since I foed Cyril. If only foe worked for quoted dribble as well as it works for direct posted dribble

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Post by Cyril Tue 30 Jul 2013, 11:48 am

Aw, ghostie Crying or Very sad

At least you were a bit cheerful as AWOP. This account is a bit glum.

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Post by tigerleghorn Tue 30 Jul 2013, 11:52 am

GloriousEmpire wrote:I love the foe feature. My life has been so calm and peaceful since I foed Cyril. If only foe worked for quoted dribble as well as it works for direct posted dribble

Off topic, cut it out!

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Post by aucklandlaurie Tue 30 Jul 2013, 11:57 am

Cyril wrote:Aw, ghostie Crying or Very sad

At least you were a bit cheerful as AWOP. This account is a bit glum.



Thats probably due to the one person who has dominated the thread. now who might that be?

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Post by Cyril Tue 30 Jul 2013, 12:00 pm

aucklandlaurie wrote:
Cyril wrote:Aw, ghostie Crying or Very sad

At least you were a bit cheerful as AWOP. This account is a bit glum.


 Thats probably due to the  one person who has dominated the thread. now who might that be?
No idea mate. Good to see you've got ghostie's back though Very Happy 

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Post by Bathman_in_London Tue 30 Jul 2013, 12:17 pm

Cyril wrote:Is Chickblacks the official name for the ladies side?


Chickblicks as our Saffa friends might say.

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Post by Submachine Tue 30 Jul 2013, 2:53 pm

England ladies are ranked 4th in the world and were beaten by both France and Ireland in this years 6 nations so to claim that they are way ahead of the rest is just wrong. Just to get back on topic like.

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Post by GunsGerms Tue 30 Jul 2013, 3:00 pm

GloriousEmpire is obsessed with England. It's his window into the NH so no surprise that he struggles to see beyond England. A lot of Kiwis have the same problem in my experience.

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Post by GloriousEmpire Tue 30 Jul 2013, 4:09 pm

Oh the irony. You do realise what you just did?

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Post by GunsGerms Tue 30 Jul 2013, 4:13 pm

GloriousEmpire wrote:Oh the irony. You do realise what you just did?

Other than point you your obvious love of England?

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Post by t1000advancedprototype Tue 30 Jul 2013, 6:12 pm

Chickblacks what a name

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Post by tigerleghorn Tue 30 Jul 2013, 6:41 pm

GunsGerms wrote:
GloriousEmpire wrote:Oh the irony. You do realise what you just did?

Other than point you your obvious love of England?

Really? Shocked ShockedShocked

you couldn't be more wrong guns. A couple of minutes looking back at his various missives and "contributions" will be be a bit of an eye opener mate!

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Tue 30 Jul 2013, 7:01 pm

GunsGerms wrote:GloriousEmpire is obsessed with England. It's his window into the NH so no surprise that he struggles to see beyond England. A lot of Kiwis have the same problem in my experience.

I think you'll find we're all over GG. From my circle of friends I know Kiwis in Dubai, Berlin, Moscow, Avignon, Paris, Trieste and Paris. The concentrations may be different but language in Europe is an obstacle for some.

How did the intercambio by the way?

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Post by GloriousEmpire Tue 30 Jul 2013, 7:21 pm

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:
GunsGerms wrote:GloriousEmpire is obsessed with England. It's his window into the NH so no surprise that he struggles to see beyond England. A lot of Kiwis have the same problem in my experience.

I think you'll find we're all over GG. From my circle of friends I know Kiwis in Dubai, Berlin, Moscow, Avignon, Paris, Trieste and Paris. The concentrations may be different but language in Europe is an obstacle for some.

How did the intercambio by the way?

I was more referring to GG's casual racism in generalising New Zealanders and the ironic tense of him doing so in a claim that such people are themselves unable to sufficiently differentiate individual cultures. This belongs in the Guiness Book of Irony.

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Tue 30 Jul 2013, 7:30 pm

I went to buy that book only to find that Alanis Morrissette had taken it and misplaced it.

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Post by GloriousEmpire Tue 30 Jul 2013, 10:12 pm

Ha!

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Post by lostinwales Tue 30 Jul 2013, 10:35 pm

Submachine wrote:England ladies are ranked 4th in the world and were beaten by both France and Ireland in this years 6 nations so to claim that they are way ahead of the rest is just wrong. Just to get back on topic like.

And they just lost the series in NZ. But...

They had beaten NZ in the UK, and had an experimental team in the 6N due to the attempt to get a decent 7's team together.

Wonderful achievement for Ireland to get the GS but a quick look at history shows that the previous 7 years England have won every time (6 GS)

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Post by GloriousEmpire Tue 30 Jul 2013, 11:14 pm

I think everyone who follows the game realises the NZ and ENG are the top two sides by some distance.

ENG have the advantage of a more established, better funded, more professional set up. At home and at full strength, they are a tough nut to crack.

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Post by GunsGerms Wed 31 Jul 2013, 9:31 am

tigerleghorn wrote:
GunsGerms wrote:
GloriousEmpire wrote:Oh the irony. You do realise what you just did?

Other than point you your obvious love of England?

Really? Shocked ShockedShocked

you couldn't be more wrong guns. A couple of minutes looking back at his various missives and "contributions" will be be a bit of an eye opener mate!

Its just a facade. I actually think he is obsessed with England. Most of his posts are related to England. Granted he does live there. Anyway in my experience the NZ media view of Europe is quite anglo centric so its no surprise.

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Post by GunsGerms Wed 31 Jul 2013, 9:36 am

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:
GunsGerms wrote:GloriousEmpire is obsessed with England. It's his window into the NH so no surprise that he struggles to see beyond England. A lot of Kiwis have the same problem in my experience.

I think you'll find we're all over GG. From my circle of friends I know Kiwis in Dubai, Berlin, Moscow, Avignon, Paris, Trieste and Paris. The concentrations may be different but language in Europe is an obstacle for some.

How did the intercambio by the way?

I realise that alright. There are plenty of New Zealanders in Ireland too. Sometimes the NZ media really annoys me. GG embodies some of the nonsense I have read in the Kiwi press.

The intercambio went very well. I am doing another one tonight. Best way to learn a language for free. It really is. For anyone interested:

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Post by GunsGerms Wed 31 Jul 2013, 9:46 am

GloriousEmpire wrote:
I was more referring to GG's casual racism in generalising New Zealanders and the ironic tense of him doing so in a claim that such people are themselves unable to sufficiently differentiate individual cultures. This belongs in the Guiness Book of Irony.

I said a lot of Kiwis. This is based on what I have read in the NZ press. If I was generalising I would be more likely to say all Kiwis. As for the claims of racism approx 80% of New Zealanders are of European origin and therefore of the same race as me not that you have any clue what race I'm from.

You think you're smart but you're really not.

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Post by gregortree Wed 31 Jul 2013, 2:38 pm

GG & his mates still nursing a desire for revenge since that Twickers result.
That may explain the increased obsession with England.

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Post by GloriousEmpire Wed 31 Jul 2013, 5:28 pm

GunsGerms wrote:
GloriousEmpire wrote:
I was more referring to GG's casual racism in generalising New Zealanders and the ironic tense of him doing so in a claim that such people are themselves unable to sufficiently differentiate individual cultures. This belongs in the Guiness Book of Irony.

I said a lot of Kiwis. This is based on what I have read in the NZ press. If I was generalising I would be more likely to say all Kiwis. As for the claims of racism approx 80% of New Zealanders are of European origin and therefore of the same race as me not that you have any clue what race I'm from.

You think you're smart but you're really not.

You can generalise without saying all. Saying "most" is still a generalisation. If check the definition if I were you.

Also you can't generalise "most" kiwis by reading the press - that's just non sensical. You can only generalise journalists who write for the NZ press. And believe me when I say most kiwis don't write for the press.

And your stats:

It's 69% rather than 80% and that includes mixed race residents who at least partially identify with the group.

As to your other point - You don't need to be faster than a lion to avoid being eaten,you just need to be faster than the guy you're talking to.

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Post by GunsGerms Wed 31 Jul 2013, 5:33 pm

Wrong again I didnt say most I said a lot. A lot can actually mean anything unlike your ridiculous lion analogy with doesnt mean anything at all.

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Post by GloriousEmpire Wed 31 Jul 2013, 5:38 pm

I contest that "a lot can mean anything".

According to various dictionaries it can have about 6-10 different meanings.

In the context you are using it can only mean "a significant proportion". Which would be a generalisation and my "most" argument still stands.

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Post by Knowsit17 Wed 31 Jul 2013, 7:15 pm

50 Kiwis is quite a lot

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Thu 01 Aug 2013, 8:58 am

Depends if you mean the birds or the people. Very Happy (and I don't mean birds in the people sense but if you've had 50 birds that would be a lot as well!)

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Post by aucklandlaurie Thu 01 Aug 2013, 9:07 am


50 Moas would be a lot more.

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Post by Metal Tiger Fri 02 Aug 2013, 4:16 pm

Biltong wrote:I understand that the english ladies team is professional?

I seem to remember reading somewhere that a few of them are (Sh)amateurs... eg they have jobs with some rugby clubs as physios, training assistants etc. but are not paid players.

Although I also seem to remember reading how a couple of them had to quit their jobs to play in the WRWC as their companies wouldn't release them for that amount of time off.

I think in general that the 'paid players' is a an easy jibe to throw at them by other teams and used as a smoke screen.
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Post by Metal Tiger Fri 02 Aug 2013, 4:20 pm

gregortree wrote:GG & his mates still nursing a desire for revenge since that Twickers result.
That may explain the increased obsession with England.

Was suddenly wondering why GunsGerms wanted revenge... then remembered that you were referring to Grey Ghost/Glourious Empire/AWOP.

Please don't confuse me like that (and yes it is easy to do).
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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Fri 02 Aug 2013, 4:34 pm

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50 Moas would be a lot more.

I don't think they were hunted into extinction in that way Laurie. Whistle 

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Post by GunsGerms Fri 02 Aug 2013, 5:16 pm

Metal Tiger wrote:
gregortree wrote:GG & his mates still nursing a desire for revenge since that Twickers result.
That may explain the increased obsession with England.

Was suddenly wondering why GunsGerms wanted revenge... then remembered that you were referring to Grey Ghost/Glourious Empire/AWOP.

Please don't confuse me like that (and yes it is easy to do).

It always confuses me too.

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