5th Test - Oval, Weds 21st August

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KP_fan wrote:Aus has made something out of nothing.
Moment of Truth for Eng
Rubber meets the road

if they fail to get close....i.e within 30 runs of winning..then they are as many believe simply lucky and going down the hill.

If they even for once think they will get bowled out in 40 odd overs......then it's already a moral defeat.

What a load of old rubbish.

If they fail to get close in a test match because Aussie don't give them anything and have good fields it means nothing of the sort

1/10. Troll harder.

Mrs Watson looks rather dishy ...

Too good for him  

Trott's actually playing well and with good intent!

Cook is slowing down a tad!

Come on Cap!!

Clarke having a rare bowl.

Might see a bit of bowling into the rough now.

England have played quite well so far , but they haven't raced away with the scoring rate. I can see the target gradually slipping away from them over the next ten or twelve overs.
Then it will be a case of how many wickets down and whether the rate is quite out of reach.

does Eng think they can still lose from here ? lose 9 wickets in 29 overs

this isnt an odi game- so i dont understand why we are using our odi plan..

stay steady and then bash the last 20!!

no if we don't lose our wickets we draw!! This is still a test match. Get the rate up now. if we lose a couple of wickets just bat the draw..

They are doing it back to front- If we have a go late with bad batters- aus could skittle us!- we need a consistent rate to win

come on pick that rate up!!

England are going about this the right way. Set the platform, then attack. If you attack too early, it won't work - remember Headingley 2012?

Running good by England thus far. Nice cut by Cook there as well.

10 off that over. Who's starting to believe now?

great to see trott playing well.

England are upping the rate.

We cant just leave it till the last 20 or 15.. need to keep it manageable.

Best innings all series by Trott!

Cook and Trott doing a fantastic job to keep the RRR below run-a-ball, which is just where it needs to be.

Runs starting to come thick and fast for England.

81-1 off 18 overs.

146 needed off 26 overs. Very do-able. Just need to keep up this T20 approach.

betteing sites are putting eng win at 2.37 and aus win at 126 at this point  

I remember Manchester , 1961.

Similar target ...few more overs though. The fashion for scoring was a bit slower then  

Dexter played a blinder , and at one point England were 137/1 and looked like winners. But Benaud came on , took six wickets , and Aussies won match and series...

No Benaud here. But you don't want to assume you are bullet proof too early. I am all for going like this for a while yet , and if it still looks reasonable , go nuts when you really cannot lose.
The other thing is , if you launch the real assault late , the fielding side will find it hard to shut you down by going ultra defensive.

KP_fan wrote:betteing sites are putting eng win at 2.37 and aus win at 126  at this point  

contrast that with 300 for england a day and a half ago

ok good time for KP to come on tbh

mystiroakey wrote:

KP_fan wrote:betteing sites are putting eng win at 2.37 and aus win at 126  at this point  

contrast that with 300 for england a day and a half ago

things can change very quickly in a chase....2 dollars stuck on aus now may not be a bad gamble

86/2, time to calm down.

Time for super Kev!

Cook gone.

Bother. KP in earlier than I wanted. He either accelerates the team to a remarkable win , or he goes cheaply and they put the shutters up.

well you are to late after that wocket

would have gone down to 45 now mate.

point being though if a few wickets go england will just bat out the draw- realistically unless england go kamikaze(which they wont) england cant lose.

If ever there was a situation for Kevin Pietersen, this is it...

KP_fan wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:

KP_fan wrote:betteing sites are putting eng win at 2.37 and aus win at 126  at this point  

contrast that with 300 for england a day and a half ago

things can change very quickly in a chase....2 dollars stuck on aus now may not be a bad gamble

Thought you had lost enough money on Australia this summer , KP _fan.  

No way Australia will win this. As Alfie said, if Kev goes early, the shutters go up.

It's reached a potentially tricky run-a-ball stage.

the moment Eng drop shutters and if they do...it will be a diffrent ball game....cobras will start spitting every delivery...and anything can happen then....every over

Eng have gotta go  normally as long as possible

alfie wrote:

KP_fan wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:

KP_fan wrote:betteing sites are putting eng win at 2.37 and aus win at 126  at this point  

contrast that with 300 for england a day and a half ago

things can change very quickly in a chase....2 dollars stuck on aus now may not be a bad gamble

Thought you had lost enough money on Australia this summer , KP _fan.  

unfortunately gambling becomes addictive.
2 dollar is not a big loss.......250 dollars win will be huge

If Australia got 8 wickets in 23 overs, it will be a greater come-from-behind victory than Adelaide 2006. It just won't happen.

Now England on the other hand, can still pull this off, but it remains unlikely.

Duty281 wrote:If Australia got 8 wickets in 23 overs, it will be a greater come-from-behind victory than Adelaide 2006. It just won't happen.

Now England on the other hand, can still pull this off, but it remains unlikely.

KP going for glory here....it's fantastic finish for the paying viewers

Well, Cook goes for 34, leaving England 86-2.

But that just brings KP to the crease. Can he and Trott see England home?

wasted review.....aus might rue it in a tight finish

Trott is the anchor, KP is the aggressor. It's quite possibly the dream combo.

Bell, Woakes, and Prior in reserve. 127 to get from 21 overs.

KP was born for these situations.

amazing shot. He has power today the ball is flying!

This is made for Pietersen. Absolutely made for the outrageous talent he is.

Hundred up for England and KP signals his intent with a huge hit back over the bowler's head.

aus need 2 quick wickets in the next 15 runs

KP_fan wrote:aus need 2 quick wickets in the next 15 runs

and then it fizzles to a draw.

The biggest problem for Australia is that they don't look like that they believe they can beat England. And that's a massive problem. They've just been happy to sit back here, and then you ask yourself - why did Clarke declare? Australia don't believe they can win.

mystiroakey wrote:

KP_fan wrote:aus need 2 quick wickets in the next 15 runs

and then it fizzles to a draw.

only if eng continues to bat positively.

if they drop shutters...there is a risk of CHOKING

Yes. We are running low on overs for a total batting collapse now. Just 19 ...hard to take a lot of wickets in that time frame once a team is intent on defence.

At the moment of course it is still England looking to get the runs , but that run rate required is creeping up. If KP can't force things - and he is struggling to do do , despite some fine shots - you would think the draw is looming ever closer.

Australia tie Pietersen down for a moment, but only for a brief moment as KP slashes one through midwicket for 4.

Oh we're halfway there...

KP_fan wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:

KP_fan wrote:aus need 2 quick wickets in the next 15 runs

and then it fizzles to a draw.

only if eng continues to bat positively.

if they drop shutters...there is a risk of CHOKING

Not a chance.. we just go down to normal test scoring rates- 2-3 an over. aus cant bowl us out cheap when it matters.. I would have more chance winning the lottery mate..

Australia are in a personal hell, and Clarke is facing utter humiliation.

"4-0, we're gonna win 4-0," sing the jubilant England fans.

103 from 17 overs.

England are batting positively, an aren't all out in 15 overs. Madness

England 124-2 and need 103 off 17 overs.

Game still finely poised. A couple of Aussie wickets could still put England in defensive mode...

GSC wrote:England are batting positively, an aren't all out in 15 overs. Madness

Completely different situation.

RR slightly dropping- decent!

99 off 17.

If KP bats through , England win. Don't think anyone else could do it though. Unless it was just the last few overs.

Slips have disappeared  

Woah! KP playing as though he's invincible. Starc suffering badly.

England rocking, super Kev rocking. What a talent. 15 off that over.

Duty281 wrote:Australia are in a personal hell, and Clarke is facing utter humiliation.....

Not really though. In fact he will probably get most of the credit , for making a game of it  

Still a lot to do , and KP very much the key.

Fun to watch though...