Amir Khan - What is the point of this guy ???

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All Boxing's great fighters avenge their defeats in their prime...........Leonard, Ali, Robbo, Louis.............Other near greats like Mosley and Delahoya try to !!!

This guy is talking about Alexander ducking him and Mayweather.............

Excuse me kid....Three fighters have beaten you... and are STILL AROUND !! So what If you beat Alexander...so what If you beat Mayweather.....

Beating Floyd makes you number 1 !!! No sirree kiddo...........

You had any pride...........Avenge a defeat before you moan about people ducking you..because you look stupid otherwise...

What is the point of you kid...because I don't see one.......Any other classy fighter would insist on Garcia.........

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Froch made good against Kessler..and has made overtures to Ward..

Bad example..

Made overtures....big deal. Ward has quite rightly stated that he's the man in that division and irrespective of whether or not he currently holds a belt, he is the one who dictates NOT Froch. Froch, if he was such a proud warrior, would have accepted this as fact and done whetever is necessary to secure that shot. He hasn't, he's meekly disappeared (because he knows Ward hands him his butt). As for Kessler, he knows Kessler was also on the wane and it takes the gloss of any revenge when you know the guy isn't anything like the fighter who bested you previously.

You're backtracking sonny..

Froch said quite quickly that he would be looking to fight Ward in Spring 2014.

I applaud Khan for being beaten and coming back against credible opposition. Contrast that with Cleverly "I may retire now" response and there is a lot to admire about Khan. Just stop him from tweeting!!

One of Khan's former opponents, Graham Earl, is planning an October comeback.
Oh dear.  

cant blame khan for talking up his ability and trying to get a fight with Mayweather. its true he deserves one as much as Judah or possibly Guerrero did. at the same token boxing fans have every right to mock him for being deluded. Khans recent performances have been dire, none more so than the last one. wouldn't be surprised if hes looking for a couple of big pay cheques before getting out of the sport

What is it you don't like about Froch, DAVE? You're usually fairly balanced but as soon as Froch comes into it that goes out the window.

Somewhat like tophat and Fury but without the hidden affection.

Y'see, Froch hasn't just talked about being a warrior and talked about fighting the best. He's also been in some nasty, gruelling fights and fought the best over and over again. Although we can all speculate on what goes on behind the scenes, all I've heard from Froch about what he'll do should he beat Groves has been about Ward.

It's funny the way Kessler was going to beat Froch before the rematch and that he was on good form...then as soon as he lost he was clearly on the wane. It also leaves out the fact that although maybe the Kessler of the first fight was better, the Froch of the first fight was worse.

Yes, he's a poor speaker, yes he over states his old school warrior mentality but make no mistake about Froch, he has backed it up every time. You don't think he's worthy of the warrior tag? Go watch that 10th (I think) round from Kessler II a few more times.

John Bloody Wayne wrote:What is it you don't like about Froch, DAVE? You're usually fairly balanced but as soon as Froch comes into it that goes out the window.

But defends Haye, a fighter who rarely delivers half the excitement he promises with his dying breath.

John Bloody Wayne wrote:What is it you don't like about Froch, DAVE? You're usually fairly balanced but as soon as Froch comes into it that goes out the window.

Somewhat like tophat and Fury but without the hidden affection.

 

Rowley wrote:

John Bloody Wayne wrote:What is it you don't like about Froch, DAVE? You're usually fairly balanced but as soon as Froch comes into it that goes out the window.

But defends Haye, a fighter who rarely delivers half the excitement he promises with his dying breath.

Froch began to annoy me in the build up to the Kessler fight with all this balls about how he wasn't going to repeat what had been said at the weigh-in as it was "words spoken spoken between two warriors and.." oh **** off Froch you stupid man.

Yes, I admire his willingness to do things the hard way and he's performed admirably of late and certainly deserve the credit he's gained however, just stop with the warrior and trenches nonsense. On the whole I do like Froch but I'm not keen on this Warrior persona as it seems a little forced. He doesn't need to shoot his mouth off (leave that to Haye and Fury) as I think it does him a dis-service.

Agree he quickly gets hard to listen to, but my point is it's not really a persona. I think the dude, delusional though he may be, believes everything he says!

If boxers can be called warriors then there's been nobody of late other than maybe Katsidis worthy of the tag more than Froch.

John Bloody Wayne wrote:Agree he quickly gets hard to listen to, but my point is it's not really a persona. I think the dude, delusional though he may be, believes everything he says!

If boxers can be called warriors then there's been nobody of late other than maybe Katsidis worthy of the tag more than Froch.

Audley?!

The desire and heart he shows by getting back into the ring is unparalleled!

Dave, the thing is, is that Froch is a genuine warrior of the sport who willingly (which is rare these days) fights in the trenches. Takes one to give one, goes in rough, makes you suffer, pounds your face in, takes your best punches, walks through everything like Predator. He is a warrior end of. Like Katsidis.

What would actually make me laugh is you being on here the night of the fight, and when froch does his entrance, he does so dressed as a Warrior with some epic theme tunes in the background. Haha. Your comments at that particular moment, i would just relish for life.

owen10ozzy wrote:

John Bloody Wayne wrote:Agree he quickly gets hard to listen to, but my point is it's not really a persona. I think the dude, delusional though he may be, believes everything he says!

If boxers can be called warriors then there's been nobody of late other than maybe Katsidis worthy of the tag more than Froch.

Audley?!

The desire and heart he shows by getting back into the ring is unparalleled!

Some may say delusional but eh ho

What...to have absolute and unwavering faith in yourself is delusional!? It's exactly the same as Khan has by believing he can beat Mayweather...even though he has been exposed brutally by Garcia & Prescott! They just have incredible self confidence and should be applauded for that...well that and their massive hearts also!

Delusion/stupidity is a big part of heart.

For me, Khan will never get the top of boxing because he simply can't take a punch. Yes he's taken some big shots from Maidana but I think that was pure adrenalin keeping him up. Every time he looks good but it only takes one decent punch and he's down. To avoid one decent shot for 12 rounds is almost impossible.

tbh I'm surprised you guys are taking these accusations of "ducking" at face value. It's a standard tactic for lesser names fishing for a big money fight. It rarely works, but hey...

Khan wants a big pay day just like the conveyor belt of fighters that have gone before him that have had no hope against Mayweather. Floyd will assess Khan's attributes and any remote possibility that Amir could win. If he feels he would not need to break a sweat against Khan and the fight could generate good money then Floyd will take the fight.

There is a huge difference between Khan and Harrison though. Khan has at least held a world title and fought some decent opposition and won. Harrison has come up short every time. Both are off the pace to Mayweather and Klitschko respectively, but if both fights were made, one would be met with wide eyed "really", but generally accepted and the other would bring the house down in laughter! However, I do accept your point, just challenge whether heart is really at the centre of it.

bhb - I was only wumming to be honest! I came on yesterday and just saw constant bickering and arguing so thought I would have myself a little wumming time! To my delight it cheered me up a little

I shall refrain from doing it all the time like some though.

Regards Khan...the lad really does have heart and like others have alluded to I can't see how you can really hate/dislike the guy. Ok he comes out with stupid stuff but then who doesn't? I mean anyone watch All Access this week  a certain money is a class A you know what.

Whilst he may come out with daft comments, at least we know that should he actually step in with Mayweather he wouldn't just turn up for the pay cheque. To be honest I am sick of hearing people moan about...worthless titles, meaningless fights, soft title defences etc and then those same people whinging when a fighter calls out the best or looks for a fight which is perhaps above his station. I wouldn't say Khan is any less worthy than Guerrero was.....Ortiz was... or for that matter Cotto ...who was coming off fights against Margarito (battered to a pulp by Pacman)...Mayorga (lets not even go there)...Foreman (talk about a soft fight)...Pacman (who he lost too)...Clotty (SD win)...Jennings (just the name makes my point) ...

Anyone would think that Khan has not been a world title holder...has not fought in exciting clashes...has not beaten decent names. Should he fight and beat Alexander then of course he will and should be spoken of as a candidate for a 2014 fight with Mayweather. He would be a legitimate belt holder in a division which Floyd operates in; not only that he is known stateside...would bring something to the table to possibly trouble Floyd (Speed) and the fight would sell.

I have nothing but respect for the guy to be honest, out of everyone who has come from the amateur game into the pro, he was given the biggest backing and financial package. He was a PPV fighter before his time (not his fault) made a rather decent amount of money in a short space of time...was then blasted out in 18 seconds. He could have easily walked away and really made people feel short changed...he didn't he got back up went on to World Honours...attempted to give the fans exciting fights even if at times it was to his own detriment and having been cheated out of a win (whichever way you look at it he was) and then been knocked out again...has once more dusted himself down and gone again. The guy deserves a heck of a lot more respect than he gets. I would hazard a guess that most of his 'haters' would barely get up from the shot Prescott put him down with...and had they im sure they would have scarpered with their tail between there legs to never be seen again.

Should he really be in the ring with Floyd? Probably not..is there any reason why he shouldn't get a shot? No of course not. We are not talking about a guy ranked 50th in the world or a part time nurse.

He's in my work at the moment doing a photo shoot. True story. Might ask him what the point of him is. Or not.

Liam wrote:For me, Khan will never get the top of boxing because he simply can't take a punch. Yes he's taken some big shots from Maidana but I think that was pure adrenalin keeping him up. Every time he looks good but it only takes one decent punch and he's down. To avoid one decent shot for 12 rounds is almost impossible.

Surely he has been at the top of boxing - he was a two belt holder, and Ring magazine belt holder and regarded as 'the man' in his division- the question is whether he can get back to the top, and whilst he's no Froch in the chin department he's not as bad as you suggest.

Ask him if he's really coming to the Victoria Hall, Keighley on 9th September 2013 as part of a fundraiser for orphans in Pakistan and people affected by the Syrian Civil War.

It's in our local paper

Ah, i have not been on a Keighley safari in ages! Always the best to people watch...

Maybe they will escape to Bingley music festival

Where, if the papers are to be believed, they will be acosted by feral gangs of underage drunken kids spreading fear and mayhem. Terrifying!

like Hook meets Children of the Corn meets Kes

meets the "night of the living (brain)dead"

if the zombie apocolypse starts in keighley there are going to be a lot of hungry zombies

If the zombie apocalypse starts in Keighley it could be years before anyone notices

Pub conversation would have improved tenfold

Went to the pub for lunch instead. He's gone now. I'm just down the road from Haye's gym as well... not that I've ever been 4r5ed to pop in there either for one of his meet 'n' greets.

Qoxiivi wrote:Went to the pub for lunch instead. He's gone now. I'm just down the road from Haye's gym as well... not that I've ever been 4r5ed to pop in there either for one of his meet 'n' greets.

Do us a favour, pop in and, irrespective of how it goes,come back and tell us that he's a genuinely nice bloke who happened to stop and old lad getting mugged. It might put STRONGBACK in a coma and prevent him from banging on about Hughie Fury

Nah. SB would then just ask why he's wasting his time stopping muggings when he should be legitimately working his way up to a title shot or why he's taking on easy muggers when he should only be fighting muggers ranked in the top ten by the WMC or... I dunno, something like that.

Chuckled through the a*se end of this topic, keep it up lads.

No doubt the mugger will get away as STRONGBACK will tell us that Haye would run in the opposite direction and refuse to engage him

4 months is a long time in boxing, a perennial loser is now a poor man's Tommy Hearns with a quality record.
Cheers Rodders

Rodney wrote:4 months is a long time in boxing, a perennial loser is now a poor man's Tommy Hearns with a quality record.
Cheers Rodders

You forgot to mention ''Outboxed all his opponents''

amir khan is a good boxer there is no point in wanting revenge he lost and has moved on to better oppenments,bruno tried to get revenge against iron mike tyson we know what happened next!

david lee wrote:amir khan is a good boxer there is no point in wanting revenge he lost and has moved on to better oppenments,bruno tried to get revenge against iron mike tyson we know what happened next!

While I agree with this in reference to the Prescott fight, he certainly hasn't moved on to better opponents since Garcia.

Never avenged Prescot

Maidana deserved rematch

Mcklosky deserved rematch

Head butted Barerra in a fight he was clearly loosing and never offered rematch

Nice find!

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
Mcklosky deserved rematch

No he didn't. Terrible fight, terrible performance.

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:Never avenged Prescot

Maidana deserved rematch

Mcklosky deserved rematch

Head butted Barerra in a fight he was clearly loosing and never offered rematch

Prescott never did anything to make him a viable match up and Warren steered Khan in a different direction. If Prescott wanted it, he should have put himself in the frame for it.
 
Agree with Maidana (which still may happen)
 
Disagree with McLosky (garbage fight...rematch less likely to happen than Calzaghe/BHop rematch)
 
Barerra was a name on his CV and a travesty all round. Barerra never in the fight, a few years and a couple of weights above his best but still managed to shake Khan. However, no-one forced him to take the fight but it should have been a NC all the same.
 
Khan has hit the jackpot with Floyd and should seek to capitalise on his Middle East fan base as, after the whupping he'll get I think Amir should walk off into the sunset with his millions in the bank never to be seen again.

haha brilliant necro-posting!

It's always a pleasure to view my old stuff.........But I'm not really sure of the relevance apart from some backwater attempt to have a pop at old Trussy...

Let me break it down for you guys......Try to make it simple.....

1. I've never said Khan was a great opponent for Floyd or that he was the best available opponent......

2. I'm pointing out that If you are to judge Mayweather like any other CHAMPION around ........Then If you are happy for GGG to fight a non entity like Macklin...........and for Barker who got hammered of Martinez to get a gift shot against Geale........

Then why be upset If Khan gets a crack at Mayweather..........Two time champ with decent names.....

3. I think it's to Khan's detriment he hasn't tried to avenge his losses..........and did then...obviously

But please upload more of my old stuff.......it can only be in the Site's best interests.....Quality never gets old !!!

and cheers again..

I'm seeing more and more similarities between Khan and Tommy Hearns.

Does anybody care what you see......On here..

When someone writes............"Mayweather never beat anybody decent and never had a defining fight"........and then sticks Louis at 6 with Ali...........

It's kiind of hard to take them seriously!!.........You know what I mean Kid ????

You make it hard for people to take you seriously Truss, writing articles like this, then suddenly saying you have no problem with him facing Floyd.

You've dug a right big hole here.

Cheers Rodders

No I haven't...........

My point is that Macklin types who haven't done as much get shots and everyone is pleased..

If I've upset with you the Louis stuff I'm sorry..

But you are a top class Floyd hater...and no one will be good enough..

Tony Galento was though !!

No contradiction from me Mate.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Does anybody care what you see......On here..

When someone writes............"Mayweather never beat anybody decent and never had a defining fight"........and then sticks Louis at 6 with Ali...........

It's kiind of hard to take them seriously!!.........You know what I mean Kid ????

Seeing as you highlighted the similarities between Khans and Hearns why don't you do one of your 10 point breakdown comparisons.

Joe Louis fought the best out there. Floyd doesn't. Very important difference.