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The Azzrentice Season 2 - Task 2
by Guest Wed 28 Aug 2013, 1:53 pm
Good morning ladies and gentlemen. You are gathered here as 9 of the most talented young fake online football managers in this country. Over the coming weeks I will be laying on a series of football-related tasks, all of which are designed to test your football knowledge, historical understanding, and creativity.
Which brings me on to the second task. The 1980s were the glory days for me, I was born, grew up, and found football. My first memory of football is Michael Thomas's goal to win the league for Arsenal in 1989. However as much as it was significant in sporting terms, it had little to no impact outside of the game.
What I want you to do is tell me what you think is the most important moment in English football, not from a footballing perspective, but from a broader perspective - taking into account the social context and impact, financial, any longer-term sporting significance - basically anything that meant the moment had a wider significance other than just a footballing one. And I want you to tell me which moment was the most important.
The team with the best choice and explanation of why they chose that particular moment in English football will win, and from the losing team, one of you will be fired.
These are the teams for this week - Cherries will lead Team Moyes, and Viva will lead Team Fergie.
Team Moyes: Trebs, Cherries (Team Leader), Gregers, Nando, Marky
Team Fergie: Zebs, Viva (Team Leader), GSC, Olly
The deadline for your submissions is Monday 9 September at 0930 (I'm on a half day that day). Good luck.
Which brings me on to the second task. The 1980s were the glory days for me, I was born, grew up, and found football. My first memory of football is Michael Thomas's goal to win the league for Arsenal in 1989. However as much as it was significant in sporting terms, it had little to no impact outside of the game.
What I want you to do is tell me what you think is the most important moment in English football, not from a footballing perspective, but from a broader perspective - taking into account the social context and impact, financial, any longer-term sporting significance - basically anything that meant the moment had a wider significance other than just a footballing one. And I want you to tell me which moment was the most important.
The team with the best choice and explanation of why they chose that particular moment in English football will win, and from the losing team, one of you will be fired.
These are the teams for this week - Cherries will lead Team Moyes, and Viva will lead Team Fergie.
Team Moyes: Trebs, Cherries (Team Leader), Gregers, Nando, Marky
Team Fergie: Zebs, Viva (Team Leader), GSC, Olly
The deadline for your submissions is Monday 9 September at 0930 (I'm on a half day that day). Good luck.
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Re: The Azzrentice Season 2 - Task 2
by Trebs Wed 28 Aug 2013, 2:39 pm
By English football, do you mean domestically only or can we use international football?
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Re: The Azzrentice Season 2 - Task 2
by Guest Wed 28 Aug 2013, 2:49 pm
Either. English football encompasses both.
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Re: The Azzrentice Season 2 - Task 2
by Guest Mon 09 Sep 2013, 9:18 am
12mins until Azzrentice - we might have to do this tomorrow if you guys aren't ready.
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Re: The Azzrentice Season 2 - Task 2
by FIFA Diva Mon 09 Sep 2013, 9:48 am
Both teams have failed, I really thought the deadline was 10am. Lord Azzy you should just continue on.
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Re: The Azzrentice Season 2 - Task 2
by Guest Mon 09 Sep 2013, 10:01 am
Haha, fire you all? Might be for the best 
I am more hungover now than I was yesterday. How is that possible.
I am more hungover now than I was yesterday. How is that possible.
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Re: The Azzrentice Season 2 - Task 2
by Marky Mon 09 Sep 2013, 10:02 am
Azzy, please forgive us, but Captain Cherries isn't online. I shall submit our document ASAP.
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Re: The Azzrentice Season 2 - Task 2
by Marky Mon 09 Sep 2013, 10:05 am
Team Moyes
- Spoiler:
- The Heysel Stadium disaster of 1985
For the Azzrentice task, we collectively chose this as our most important moment in English football, for the reasons supplied;
The Heysel Stadium Disaster caused UEFA to ban all English clubs competing in Europe, originally indefinitely but this was later set at five years. For a short period of time, FIFA also intervened, banning clubs from competing in friendly matches outside of England which was revoked earlier. Everton, who were one of the top sides at the time of the disaster had won the Super Cup that year and had qualified for Europe the following season being one of the favourites to win, but were stripped of that opportunity. All in all, 16 teams were prevented from playing in Europe.
Some of the top players in the First Division left to join foreign clubs. This was due to the availability of the European football and also due to the higher wages available. Mark Hughes and Gary Lineker were both signed by Barcelona, the latter winning the European Cup Winner's Cup. Chris Waddle also had notable success with Marseille reaching the European Cup Final. Arsenal were the first team to return to the European Cup in 1991, being knocked out in the Second Round.
With rioting football fans being fingered as the main cause of the Heysel tragedy, Heysel is seen as the end of hooliganism in English football. While it still rears it’s ugly head from time to time, the events of 1985 was the beginning of the end for the Football Casual.
Football hooligans seemed to revel in the publicity which their destructive hobby afforded them. A number of organised firms emerged into the headlines- amongst them the Chelsea Headhunters, Millwall’s Bushwackers, Birmingham’s Zulus & West Ham’s InterCity Firm (ICF). These firms featured hundreds upon hundreds of young males, mainly with working class backgrounds, who formed a new culture in football, known as the Football Casual.
Put someone who goes to football and wears casual designer clothes together, and you have the Football Casual. The origins of the Football Casual are said to come from English clubs’ first trips abroad, and the looting that would go on amongst their travelling support. Liverpool earned a huge reputation for bringing back the latest designer clothes and trainers from their many European trips, and soon a competition was underway amongst the main firms to wear the best designer gear, listen to the best music and, of course, cause the most trouble. The fashion culture also meant that the number of fans involved would bulge, with the new casuals jumping on the bandwagon, looking for a bit of action, rather than just the hardcore minority.
So, if the 1960s was the start, the 1970s was the adolescence, the 1980s was undoubtedly the peak for football violence. In stadiums at least. And 1985 was the lowest year of all. In March of that year, an FA Cup Quarter Final between Luton Town & Millwall at Kenilworth Road descended into what was described as “the worst example of football violence seen at an English ground”. Visiting Millwall fans, enjoying the fear that their media-enhanced reputation had given to them, simply tore Kenilworth Road apart. Ripping scores of vivid orange plastic seats up to use as weapons and shields, Millwall fans charged onto the pitch, fighting with police and opposition fans. The game was halted twice, and at the final whistle, the pitch was invaded again, with several injuries ensuing. And all played out on live television.
Outside the ground, pitched battles were fought between The Bushwhackers, and Luton’s own MIG crew, with police in the middle. Following this most public of reminders of the perils of hooliganism, the British Government, led by PM Margaret Thatcher, called for serious measures to be put in place to combat fan violence. Thatcher demanded “stiff prison sentences” for those found guilty of stadium violence, whilst Chelsea chairman Ken Bates, never one to shy away from an inflammatory sound byte, claimed he wanted to erect electrified fences at Stamford Bridge in order to keep potential troublemakers in check. The Government proposed an idea to introduce ID cards for football fans, in order to monitor exactly who was travelling to matches, but this idea never got off the ground.
The following month, a game between Birmingham City and Leeds United at St Andrews ended in tragedy when a 14 year-old boy was crushed to death beneath a wall which had collapsed outside the stadium following a day of violence. Leeds fans set fire to stalls in the away end, threw concrete breezeblocks at opposition fans and tore up seats. Even Leeds boss, an Elland Road legend, Eddie Gray, was targeted with missiles as he pleaded in vain for the fans to stop their rampaging.
Not to mention Heysel.
Of course the details of that fateful May night at Heysel are a sensitive subject, and no one truly knows the spark for the mayhem (if there even was one). What we do know is that Liverpool and Juventus fans ended up confined together in a so-called “neutral area” (tickets distributed to local fans were always likely to end up in the wrong hands), and violence ensued. As Liverpool fans charged their rivals, the Juventus fans fled to the safety of their own end. But under weight of numbers, a wall separating the Juventus end from the neutral area buckled and collapsed, killing 39 supporters. Battle continued, despite the fatalities, and the game was held up, with the captains of both sides appealing for calm from the supporters. The game was eventually played, but under a black cloud, Juventus’ 1-0 win paling into virtual insignificance.
In the aftermath of Heysel, English clubs were banned from Europe for five years (Liverpool for six), as the FA looked to clean up its national game’s reputation. The Hillsborough tragedy of April 15th 1989, where 96 Liverpool supporters were killed in a crush at their side’s FA Cup Semi Final with Nottingham Forest, led to the Taylor Report, which recommended that all major football stadia reverts to the all-seater mode, minus the perimeter fences which had proved so dangerous. This, coupled with improved policing and stewarding at grounds, has led to a decline in the number of arrests made at football grounds since 1990.
That’s not to say that football violence at stadiums does not happen any more. In February 1995, England fans rioted at a friendly with the Republic of Ireland in Dublin, causing the game to be abandoned. 50 people were injured. In 1997, during England’s critical World Cup qualifier with Italy in Rome, fans clashed on the terraces with Italian police, who steamed in with batons. In the same stadium in 2007, Manchester United fans clashed with police on the terraces in similar fashion, whilst Spurs fans were seen scrapping with Spanish police during their UEFA Cup tie with Sevilla that same week.
The media coverage that these incidents get, expressed shock that this kind of thing still occurs in the English game. Police acted quickly to identify those involved, and clubs have a far stricter policy for fans caught offending these days. Police are encouraged not to wade in with batons flailing, as is often the case on the continent, but to examine CCTV footage and identify suspects, with banning orders and prison sentences dished out. The media also plays its part, publishing photographs of suspected hooligans, whilst the BBC television programme “MacIntyre undercover” saw undercover reporter Donal MacIntrye’s investigation into Chelsea football hooligans lead to a series of arrests, with several of Chelsea’s notorious Head-Hunter crew jailed.
Of course the increased publicity and scrutiny given to football violence since the rarely reported days of the 1960s has had an effect in terms of violence within the stadiums, but many experts believe that whilst violence at matches in England is undoubtedly on the fall, organised gangs still operate regularly away from the CCTV-stained grounds. In 1985 five fans were stabbed on a cross-channel ferry to France after a three-way fight involving fans of West Ham, Manchester United and Everton, and in March 1998 a Fulham fan was kicked to death outside Gillingham’s Priestfield Stadium when fighting broke out in a nearby alleyway.
However these incidents, whilst tragic and unacceptable, are a lot fewer and further between than in the Hooligan Heyday of the 1970s and 80s, when it seemed that every weekend there were new tales of woe from clubs, fans, police and players. The social impact of Heysel is that these days, for the majority, came to an end and thus ended the era of the Football Casual.
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Re: The Azzrentice Season 2 - Task 2
by Guest Mon 09 Sep 2013, 11:02 am
Thank you Team Moyes for an enjoyable, and eye-opening, read.
Team Fergie, anything from you today?
Team Fergie, anything from you today?
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Re: The Azzrentice Season 2 - Task 2
by FIFA Diva Mon 09 Sep 2013, 11:44 am
No we don't have anything Lord Azzy.
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Re: The Azzrentice Season 2 - Task 2
by Guest Mon 09 Sep 2013, 11:46 am
Okay, as there is no submission:
Team Moyes - you submitted something, so you win. Congratulations. Your treat is to go on Youtube and watch the tackle by Gabriel Agbonlahor on that 1D muppet.
On Team Fergie:
VIVA - you are FIRED for not submitting anything, even an apology.
ZEBS, OLLY, GSC - you are all on your last warning.
Oh, also:
CHERRIES - you are fired, as it took Marky to submit your team's piece for you to even pick up the win.
Team Moyes - you submitted something, so you win. Congratulations. Your treat is to go on Youtube and watch the tackle by Gabriel Agbonlahor on that 1D muppet.
On Team Fergie:
VIVA - you are FIRED for not submitting anything, even an apology.
ZEBS, OLLY, GSC - you are all on your last warning.
Oh, also:
CHERRIES - you are fired, as it took Marky to submit your team's piece for you to even pick up the win.
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Re: The Azzrentice Season 2 - Task 2
by Guest Mon 09 Sep 2013, 11:47 am
Task 3 will be posted tomorrow afternoon when I'm back at work (off now for an afternoon and a morning).
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Re: The Azzrentice Season 2 - Task 2
by Marky Mon 09 Sep 2013, 12:23 pm
Feel a bit bad for Cherries as he did designate and participate well. More than Gregers and Nando did anyway.
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Re: The Azzrentice Season 2 - Task 2
by Fernando Mon 09 Sep 2013, 12:28 pm
i offered my opinion which Cherries agreed with at 1st then changed his mind, Also when designated tasks he left me out even though i was around.
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Re: The Azzrentice Season 2 - Task 2
by Marky Mon 09 Sep 2013, 12:31 pm
Then I stand corrected...
Well done Nando on winning the task single handed
Well done Nando on winning the task single handed
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Re: The Azzrentice Season 2 - Task 2
by Trebs Mon 09 Sep 2013, 1:07 pm
Sorry azzy but i want to argue this. Cherries does not deserve to be fired when you look at some of the other candidates still here.
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Re: The Azzrentice Season 2 - Task 2
by Marky Mon 09 Sep 2013, 1:15 pm
I agree. Not to necessarily fire someone else, but to spare Cherries as he may have a valid reason for not being online, and did actually lead his team to victory.onlytreblewinners wrote:Sorry azzy but i want to argue this. Cherries does not deserve to be fired when you look at some of the other candidates still here.
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Re: The Azzrentice Season 2 - Task 2
by FIFA Diva Mon 09 Sep 2013, 1:17 pm
This is a joke, I'm team leader not James Bond. Both teams failed to get it on time they didn't deserve to win. Look at my team they didn't care. AZy demand you yo put me back in.
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Re: The Azzrentice Season 2 - Task 2
by FIFA Diva Mon 09 Sep 2013, 1:30 pm
You know what. Azzy is the first to quit and cry over rules but doesn't stick to them himself. No point in deadlines anymore. I'll get tactics in when I feel like
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Re: The Azzrentice Season 2 - Task 2
by sodhat Mon 09 Sep 2013, 1:34 pm
So even after I was fired last time for leading a team that got nothing in, you didn't see this coming? You feel hard done by?
You lost bro. You got nothing in. You're worse than Hitler.
You lost bro. You got nothing in. You're worse than Hitler.
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Re: The Azzrentice Season 2 - Task 2
by FIFA Diva Mon 09 Sep 2013, 1:44 pm
I can easily counter you but I won't. I'll keep my dignity.
Thank you Azzy for the chance and good luck to the rest. Remember to pick me as first choice in the final.
Thank you Azzy for the chance and good luck to the rest. Remember to pick me as first choice in the final.
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Re: The Azzrentice Season 2 - Task 2
by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 09 Sep 2013, 1:52 pm
I feel you've made the correct decision Azzy, a real lack of leadership and direction meant we had no desire or purpose to submit anything
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Re: The Azzrentice Season 2 - Task 2
by Afro Mon 09 Sep 2013, 1:53 pm
I think the dignity was already gone at this pointVivaPaulScholes wrote:This is a joke, I'm team leader not James Bond. Both teams failed to get it on time they didn't deserve to win. Look at my team they didn't care. AZy demand you yo put me back in.
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Re: The Azzrentice Season 2 - Task 2
by Guest Fri 20 Sep 2013, 3:35 pm
Okay lads, I forgot about the Azzrentice. I will continue it on Monday 
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Re: The Azzrentice Season 2 - Task 2
by Fernando Fri 20 Sep 2013, 3:36 pm
*Lord Sugar*
Azzy you neglected your task and as consequence failed in your duty to hand out your tasks on a reasonable timeline.
You're Fired!
Azzy you neglected your task and as consequence failed in your duty to hand out your tasks on a reasonable timeline.
You're Fired!
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Re: The Azzrentice Season 2 - Task 2
by Guest Fri 20 Sep 2013, 3:38 pm
Au contraire, you have no power here on t'internet. Get out of here before I make you eat tin foil!
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Re: The Azzrentice Season 2 - Task 2
by Fernando Mon 23 Sep 2013, 3:01 pm
Just aswell im going on Holiday on saturday need a break from your inept azzrentice running 
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Re: The Azzrentice Season 2 - Task 2
by Guest Mon 23 Sep 2013, 3:14 pm
Too busy mate, it'll have to wait 
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