Burns - Beltran; ***FIGHT NIGHT THREAD***

[KingMonkey]

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Anyone know much of Beltran?  I've got to admit I don't but he's ranked high enough by Ring Mag for me to think this should be a competitive fight.

As much as I like Ricky he's never struck me as a 'world level' type of fighter.  Fringe perhaps.  A domestic fighter done good for sure but despite one or two decent enough wins I've always had the feeling that he's limited.  He got very lucky last time out agianst a fighter with a bit of class (although seemingly no heart).

Anyone shed some light on this one for me?  I'm looking forward to it all the same.

[monzon]

112-115 Beltran.

Gave Ricky five rounds (1, 6, 7, 11 & 12)

Courageous from Ricky, but woeful defensively, and outclassed. Beltran had continuous joy with the left hook.

[jimdig]

He should have taken his one shot at a big payday against broner.

[The Terror of Tylorstown]

114-113 Beltran

Beltran won his rounds big but Burns scraped through in a fair few for me.

[TopHat24/7]

Yep.

Not a Clev style embarrassing schooling, but he's been totally done.

[TheMarvelousOne]

If Beltran doesn't get the nod here then it will be up there with some of Sven Ottkes home town decisions

[rob-glos]

Beltran by 3 points.

[mobilemaster8]

Beltran dominant. I have a wide UD around the 116-112 or 117-111.

[sparxz]

Beltran should win that, looked solid and composed throughout, looked like he had another gear he didn't use, impressed by him and he should get the verdict.

[mobilemaster8]

HAHA terror you make me laugh mate. Everyone is on here stating it was a schooling, along with Jimm Watt who is a jock, and you have Beltran scraping it haha funny times.

[Lance]

hope Beltran doesn't get robbed....

[John Bloody Wayne]

Burns   Beltran
    10-9
    9-10
    9-10
    9-10
    9-10
    9-10
    10-9
    8-10
9-10
9-10
9-10
10-9 110/117

In general I do tend to favour aggression but I can't see a way Ricky won that. Not a meaningful punch all night.

[Dass]

114-113 Beltran but I could easily say 2/3 of those rounds I gave Burns going the other way.

[sparxz]

?

[TopHat24/7]

115-112 Burns WTF?????????

[Boxtthis]

115-113 Beltran is the most generous you could be to Burns, and that's only because he nicked a few rounds. Beltran was the boss throughout.

Probably 116-112 Beltran for me. But, the scores are generous to Burns considering the way he was dominated.

[The Terror of Tylorstown]

Well Burns clearly won the 1st, 6th, 7th and 12th so how you think it's a schooling is beyond me.

[sparxz]

A draw you joking me?

[monzon]

Absolute joke.

[Boxtthis]

WHAT????

[Dass]

Beltran can feel pretty hard done by there.

[TopHat24/7]

At least Watt is calling it fair.

[Pedro147]

Disgrace!!!!

[Steffan]

A draw? Disgraceful

[Seanusarrilius]

Robbed! Jobbed! Nobbed! Show me the rounds Burns got to draw this

[Union Cane]

Joke decision. Absolute joke. Disgrace.

[rob-glos]

115-112 Burns????

Draw???

Poor Beltran, that's a disgrace

[Lance]

nonsense. Burns should have been disqualified, and gets handed a rubbish draw. shameful

[The Terror of Tylorstown]

HAHA terror you make me laugh mate. Everyone is on here stating it was a schooling, along with Jimm Watt who is a jock, and you have Beltran scraping it haha funny times.

All three judges had it quite close and that's a schooling?

[monzon]

The judge who scored it a draw has no case to answer. Lots of the rounds were close.

Three rounds to Burns, though, WTF?!?

[Lumbering_Jack]

Looks a bad decision... I had Beltran up by 3 points.

[mobilemaster8]

Frak joke cards. Boxing is officially cowpat at times. Seriously. Absolutely THE worst decision ive ever witnessed in the 17 years or so that ive been in love with the sport.

[Pedro147]

How the hell did the US judge have Burns ahead by 3 and he got knocked down which is a 10-8 round!!!

[mobilemaster8]

Night all, feel really down about this. Makes you wonder what you love about it.

[TopHat24/7]

worse than some of the Pac robberies MM8??

[Lumbering_Jack]

And Burns should have at least been warned for his constant holding. Home town ref really helped him here.

[PPVxHOTTY]

No wonder Andre Ward refuses to fight Froch in UK, im not surprised absolute joke!!

[sparxz]

To me it was at least 3 rounds to Beltran and don't see any way burns gets close to a draw, disgraceful decision, but good luck to him, he didn't make the call just fought the fight.

[Guest]

farsical result. beltran with ease, dominated in my opinion. burns is poor, found out in the last fight and this one, everyone knows it, even hearn. get a fight outside scotland and he's finished. not a worthy world champ at all.

[thebawwse]

shocking decision

[TopHat24/7]

Nobody staying up for Arreola then..?? Lol

[Union Cane]

How the hell did the US judge have Burns ahead by 3 and he got knocked down which is a 10-8 round!!!

He was sitting behind that singer.

[mobilemaster8]

Yeh mate, in genuinely in shock. Its a disgrace how some guy can boss the whole fight, knock him down and still draw. Its unreal. Not being funny but Ricky Burns is not as good as we thought. He was schooled tonight and Beltran got robbed. Its literally as simple as that.

[Strongback]

Eddie's learning this game fast.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Disgrace of a decision

[as1079]

Gad it 114-113 Beltran myself. Can't argue with draw, nor the card in favour of Beltran but the one in favour of Burns was quite clearly disgraceful.

[Boxtthis]

Does Ricky get the 11th?

no way

Nah you're right. I was reaching. Ricky lost handily.

[The Terror of Tylorstown]

I'm not sure some people quite understand the 10 point must system. Who appears to be dominating overall can be countered by the round by round scoring.

I had Burns winning the 1st, 2nd, 6th, 7th, 11th and 12th with the 2nd and 3rd being very close, Beltran won the 4th, 5th, 8th, 9th and 10th more clearly than Burns did any of his but that isn't taken into account.

[PPVxHOTTY]

I'm not sure some people quite understand the 10 point must system. Who appears to be dominating overall can be countered by the round by round scoring.

I had Burns winning the 1st, 2nd, 6th, 7th, 11th and 12th with the 2nd and 3rd being very close, Beltran won the 4th, 5th, 8th, 9th and 10th more clearly than Burns did any of his but that isn't taken into account.

Theirs always someone who has to say something like this...your justifying a robbery hahaha get real pal.

[The Terror of Tylorstown]

Yeh mate, in genuinely in shock. Its a disgrace how some guy can boss the whole fight, knock him down and still draw. Its unreal. Not being funny but Ricky Burns is not as good as we thought. He was schooled tonight and Beltran got robbed. Its literally as simple as that.

Schooled? A schooling is dominance from the start to finish which this wasn't, I think Beltran won but Burns had his moments.

[Steffan]

And basically stuff like this screws over UK boxing as no decent fighter will want to come here due to reputation for hometown decisions

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