Geales management launch appeal

Daniel Geale wants to fight again in December, irrespective of whether he wins his appeal against his recent IBF boxing middleweight world title loss.

Geale resumed training on Thursday, less than three weeks after the bout - which he watched on Wednesday for the first time since his split decision points loss to Englishman Darren Barker in Atlantic City.

His management have lodged an appeal to the IBF, citing a number of grounds, including the scoring of the bout.

Ideally Geale is hoping for the appeal to be upheld and for the IBF to sanction a rematch with Barker in December.
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If it's unsuccessful, Barker is expected to make a mandatory defence against German Felix Sturm.

"My goal would be to fight in December," Geale told AAP on Thursday.

"Either way if we get Barker, that would be unreal, to fight again so soon, but if it's not him, I'm happy to fight everybody else.

"I pulled up well from that fight and I'm still very hungry.

"I want to get back in there and make things right again."

Geale was adamant he did enough to win the fight after watching it.

Asked if he would have done anything differently, Geale said "I don't think so, in the heat of battle it is difficult to change things.

"It's easy to look back and say 'I could have done, I should have done', 'if...' sort of stuff.

"But it was a tough fight. Barker was always dangerous,

"I did feel in control most of the stages, but I also do know that if I ever do get that opportunity to fight him again, it's going to be a much different story.

"I think he knows that as well, so I won't be surprised if he doesn't want to fight me again."

The 32-year old Sydney-based Tasmanian had no doubts he could win another world title and that the loss to Barker was a temporary setback that would only fuel his ambitions.

"I still feel like I'm getting better," Geale said.

"I can still beat the top fighters in the world, I'm confident with anybody.

"It's not the first time that I've had frustrating things happen - decisions not going my way.

"I had it plenty of times in the amateurs and I had it in 2009 (in a points loss to Anthony Mundine) as well so all it does is make me hungrier."

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news...905-2t7mv.html

Really classless by his management, it was a close fight. Nothing dodgy about the scoring.

Yeh i agree mate. Was a very close fight and could have gone either way.

You cant really complain from his perspective based on how close the fight actually was.

Had Geale dominated, i could understand, but it was nip and tick from 1-12 bar the knockdown (and even then Barker somehow finished stronger).

Barker wanted it more for me, hence the close victory.

Nothing dodgy about it at all and purely bitterness from Geales management team.

No, but these are Australians you're talking about, so it's not the shock of all time, either. Bleated throughout the Test series in cricket, when you'd imagine that a 3-0 thumping might encourage a degree of humility, at the very least. Serial moaners when it comes to rugby - see their papers for full details of how the referee denied them their just rewards against the All Blacks in their latest match.

To give Geale his due, this appeal seems to come directly from his risible management team, rather than the fighter himself, who has consistently said that he felt the fight was tight, but that he had done just enough, which is fair enough. It WAS extremely close, and I'd suggest that Geale made enough tactical mistakes to believe that a rematch might bring a different result, but Barker was definitely the busier fighter last month and deserved his win.

I think the appeal is in order to get the Ibf to put him ahead of Sturm as Barkers first defense. or maybe im being too kind to him? Im pleased Barker won, it certainly could have gone either way, but if ever the former champion deserves a rematch I think this is the case.

Indeed captain, never understood how they have the temerity of calling us whinging poms. A severe case of pot and kettle, if ever there was one.

A classless Aussie, well I never....

That said, it was a close fight and probably deserving of a rematch. He should wait his turn though. Sturm next for Barker in London THEN Geale.

CLASSLESS AUSSIE PUNK BITCH ***** **** **** ** * * ***** * *****.

Hope they have rematch and Barker retires him.

Fairly classless move from Geale’s team. Like others have said was a close fight but by no means a robbery. One can only wonder how someone like Michael Brodie feels seeing this described as a robbery. As has been alluded to above think this is a case of if you say something loudly and frequently enough folk will start to accept it as fact, in the hope Geale will be installed for a rematch to placate his team.

Semi-related but did anyone see Barker on Ringside last night? He sounded worryingly punch drunk.

Didn't see it, Mandrake, but a mate of mine said something similar. Need to have a look.

Mind you, did anyone watch the Bradley-Marquez face off for HBO the other day? Bradley claimed that he was still experiencing dizziness and slurred speech a full two months after that war with Provodnikov.

Nothing new, I woke up 4 hours ago and still sound like I'm on drugs.

In one of his post fight interviews after his last fight, Bradley reminded me of Ali in the way he was speaking. I worry a little bit for Timmy, classic case of a fighter needing a year out that. This fight may be coming a little bit too soon for him which could prove disastrous. I hope not though.

Could have gone either way, can't argue either of them winning it, it depends what you like.

Pretty poor from Team Geale.

This is a disgraceful appeal. This fight was close but to appeal the loss is a joke.

Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake wrote:Semi-related but did anyone see Barker on Ringside last night? He sounded worryingly punch drunk.

Yes I saw him. I don't think he sounded in the least bit punch drunk.

Have the feeling it's his team rather than him pushing for it.....

They know barker is his only hope of another world title and wantas another shot..

Joke really considering the amount of robberies there have been with no compensation....

STC wrote:

Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake wrote:Semi-related but did anyone see Barker on Ringside last night? He sounded worryingly punch drunk.

Yes I saw him. I don't think he sounded in the least bit punch drunk.

Agree, I thought he sounded fine.

I hope Barkers performance against Geale was a one off. He did great beating the champion at his own game, but he shouldn't let it change his long term tactics. I think Sturm would knock him out if he tried the same to him. Barker seems like a smart enough guy to know this I expect though

Lance wrote:I hope Barkers performance against Geale was a one off. He did great beating the champion at his own game, but he shouldn't let it change his long term tactics. I think Sturm would knock him out if he tried the same to him. Barker seems like a smart enough guy to know this I expect though

Sturm has a KO percentage of 38%, it's unlikely he'd knock him out or even stop him.

He very nearly stopped Macklin, and Macklin took far less punishment than Barker did from Geale. I would say Sturm hits more accurately than Geale. Not sure how much desire Sturm has left, but if hes willing to come to London maybe hes still got some fight left in him. I think its definitely a tough fight for Barker, especially after such a gruelling fight with Geale. Not saying he wont win, but I think he will need to go back to his more natural way of fighting, rather than try to go toe to toe as he did with Geale.

Must be the time of year for sour grapes, Liakhovic is appealing his loss to Wilder too claiming illegal blows to the side / back of the head.

Close fights are what the appeal process is for.

A second Geale fight is a better option than taking on Strum.

Strongback wrote:Close fights are what the appeal process is for.

A second Geale fight is a better option than taking on Strum.

Robberies and blatant cheating are what the appeals process is for. Not to contest a perfectly legitimate decision.

Strongback wrote:Close fights are what the appeal process is for.

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TopHat24/7 wrote:CLASSLESS AUSSIE PUNK BITCH ***** **** **** ** * * ***** * *****.

Hope they have rematch and Barker retires him.

I do love a bit of irony  

Lumbering_Jack wrote:

Strongback wrote:Close fights are what the appeal process is for.

A second Geale fight is a better option than taking on Strum.

Robberies and blatant cheating are what the appeals process is for. Not to contest a perfectly legitimate decision.

Who decides what a robbery is? The fans of a fighter?

Haggler has a claim to have won the Leonard fight. Why is that? Because the fight was very close and the decision could have gone either way. It is much rarer that a fighter wins in the majorities eyes by 4 or 5 rounds only for the judges to give the decision to the wrong guy.

If this was happening to some US fighter and not Barker the people on this board wouldn't bat an eyelid.

A fight that could go either way is not a robbery and that is not what the appeals process is for.

And it's only natural that a British boxing forum is going to be more drawn to British fighters.

The whole situation is ludicrous and smacks of sours grapes.

Change the Union Jack under pants they are starting to stink.

So's your BS.

Not everybody lives in a bubble.

His management are wanting to try and get a straight rematch after a close fight, can't see what anyone would be angry about that for.

Personally, I didn't think Geale won that fight whichever way you look at it, thought it was very close but I actually couldn't make a proper case for him winning the fight,

TopHat24/7 wrote:So's your BS.

 

Strongback wrote:Not everybody lives in a bubble.

I do. And it's called London, greatest bubble on Earth.

TopHat24/7 wrote:

Strongback wrote:Not everybody lives in a bubble.

I do. And it's called London, greatest bubble on Earth.

London isn't even the financial capital of the world.

Here's how the Aussie's saw it.


BOXER Daniel Geale will lodge an official complaint with the International Boxing Federation after a controversial split-decision loss to England's Darren Barker yesterday.

Geale's manager Bill Treacy told the Macarthur Chronicle Team Geale would lodge an official complaint as soon as Geale returned from a US break.

One judge scored the Atlantic City bout 114-113 in favour of Geale, but the remaining two gave Barker the fight with scores of 114-113 and 116-111.


Treacy said Barker appeared significantly more injured than Geale.

"He wore sunglasses in the press conference to cover up but I saw two black eyes, cuts under his left eye and knew he had come out second best," he said.

"I looked at Daniel and he barely had a scratch on him. Anyone who watched the fight knew Daniel really hurt him."

Treacy said the complaint would be based on three discrepancies.

He said the first, and most important, was referee Eddie Cotton's decision to continue the fight after gesturing it was over in the sixth.

"When Daniel landed the body shot and knocked Barker down, the referee waved his arms, which meant the fight was over. But he let it go on," he said.

The second was the decision of judges Carlos Ortiz Jr and Alan Rubenstein to give the 12th round to Barker.

"Two of the judges gave Barker the 12th but we all know it was Daniel who won it, easily," he said.

The third issue was the controversial 116-111 win given by judge Barbara Perez.

"The fight was close from start to finish and to have a 116-111 score, I don't think that reflects the fight," Treacy said.

"It's disappointing because Daniel was the champion and you have to win the belt from the champion convincingly."

Treacy said Team Geale would meet to discuss the complaint when Geale returned from a holiday in the US.


He also said Geale's American promoter Gary Shaw had already complained to the IBF.

The fight has a rematch clause, pending a mandatory challenge between Barker and Germany's Felix Sturm, and Treacy said he hoped to secure a bout in Australia.

"We don't mind who wins between Barker and Sturm because Daniel will be ready for either and he will win the belt back," he said.

Asked how he would obtain an Australian rematch, Treacy answered, "money".

"We'll have to throw a bit of money out there but it's important for us to have an Australian rematch," he said.


THE Camden region was in shock after Daniel Geale surrendered his IBF middleweight world title to England's Darren Barker in the US yesterday, but locals say a rematch could his biggest ever bout.

Geale, of Harrington Park, lost to Barker in a split decision where the deciding card went 114-113 against him.

The 32-year-old almost won the fight in the sixth round, when he landed a blow on Barker's solar plexus, but Barker just beat the count.

Geale tried furiously to end the fight in the seconds after Barker got up, but the Englishman threw several shots in the closing seconds of the round.

The fight was Geale's fifth defence of the title, which he took from German Sebastian Sylvester in 2011, and only his second loss in 31 professional fights.

Mt Annan Hotel was packed with avid Geale fans and publican Mattt Jeboult said the atmosphere was electric.

"We would have had more than 200 people pack into the pub and it was unanimous support for Danny," he said.

"They were especially colourful when Geale knocked Barker out in the sixth round. There was calls for Barker not to get up and to stay down."

One judge decided Geale had won 114-113, but fans at Mt Annan Hotel were perplexed at the third judge's decision to award Barker the fight 116-111.

"Everyone in the pub was shocked and outraged," Jeboult said.

Jeboult said a rematch with Barker would bring and even bigger crowd than yesterday's fight.

"Fans here were stinging at the decision and a lot thought Geale had won, plus now Geale doesn't have a belt, so he'll be hungry to win a belt back and the fans in Camden will be right behind him."

Lol here we go again, Strongy trying to big up the Celtic pu$$y cat......

I don't remember the ref waiving the fight off at all, yes 116-111 was to wide but to complain that two judges gave Barker the 12th round is stupid. Also the fact Barker was more marked up than Geale means nothing, fights are judged on damage they're judged on who does the more effective work. Think this guy needs to have a rethink.

You mean that chat we had when I suggested the UK wouldn't maintain its AAA rating.  

Haha yeh, which it didn't with, I think, 1 rater. It was the one where you postulated that the fact you had a good stable job meant the entirety of Ireland was hokey cokey.

TopHat24/7 wrote:Haha yeh, which it didn't with, I think, 1 rater.  It was the one where you postulated that the fact you had a good stable job meant the entirety of Ireland was hokey cokey.

The one where I showed wages are higher in Ireland?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_in_Europe_by_monthly_average_wage

As is the cost of living, as I think I remember showing.