So long Hoggy
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So long Hoggy
So my fellow Yorkshireman is to retire. My favourite Yorkshire cricketer, simply because he had the best of the tried and tested 'old fashioned' attributes (determination, character, 'over my dead body') mixed with the new (willingness to take on new ideas - did you know that he's quite an IT expert for instance?)
And he's the only cricketer that I can truly say was appallingly treated by England, during (yet another) uninspiring tour of NZ. It wasn't the dropping - it was probably deserved. It was the lack of contact 'arm around the shoulder' that a player of such stature should get and warrants. Vaughan once aluded that they got it wrong, but this was in the middle of the Vaughan / Moores power struggle that set England back a year
Well done to him a great servant and person
And he's the only cricketer that I can truly say was appallingly treated by England, during (yet another) uninspiring tour of NZ. It wasn't the dropping - it was probably deserved. It was the lack of contact 'arm around the shoulder' that a player of such stature should get and warrants. Vaughan once aluded that they got it wrong, but this was in the middle of the Vaughan / Moores power struggle that set England back a year
Well done to him a great servant and person
banbrotam- Posts : 3374
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Loved his willing displays for us. A terrific bowler and down to earth good lad.
Stella- Posts : 6671
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He was an excellent swing bowler, his best performance probably being the 7-for away to South Africa.
Its with the bat in 2005 I will remember him most though: only when he hit that full toss for four did I start to believe we were going to win in that horribly tense run chase at Trent Bridge.
Its with the bat in 2005 I will remember him most though: only when he hit that full toss for four did I start to believe we were going to win in that horribly tense run chase at Trent Bridge.
VTR- Posts : 5060
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Re: So long Hoggy
My favourite player of recent years (hence half of my user name). A down to earth, stoic, determined character with a bit of wit and, also, a damn good bowler on his day.
A noble yeoman of the English game. Good luck in your retirement Hoggy
A noble yeoman of the English game. Good luck in your retirement Hoggy
Hoggy_Bear- Posts : 2202
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A fantastic England player. Hope he enjoys his retirement, and whatever he moves onto.
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I too wish him well. As a supporter of the county game, I was pleased he continued playing there when his international career ended although do feel he should have called time at least a year ago.
guildfordbat- Posts : 16889
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Excellent bowler. Hoggard lbw to the left hander was a fine sight to behold, swinging back in.
Wish him all the best.
Wish him all the best.
Re: So long Hoggy
A great player. Good luck to him in future.
trebellbobaggins- Posts : 4943
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He was, as they say, a good'un.
I stood up at the AGM and vented at our management for the way we treated him.
I stood up at the AGM and vented at our management for the way we treated him.
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Re: So long Hoggy
I saw Hoggard first on the tour of India in about 2000-01....he either debuted on that tour or was in his first few tests....
He was quite a lot faster then hitting 89mph often...and Hussain had remarked Hoggard would run throuhg a wall for his side and captain.
and then about 4 to 5 years later he was bowling at barely 78mph...dunno where and how he dropped so much pace
to me he was the Siddle of England...or since the tribute is to Hoggard........Siddle is the Hogard of Aus
He was quite a lot faster then hitting 89mph often...and Hussain had remarked Hoggard would run throuhg a wall for his side and captain.
and then about 4 to 5 years later he was bowling at barely 78mph...dunno where and how he dropped so much pace
to me he was the Siddle of England...or since the tribute is to Hoggard........Siddle is the Hogard of Aus
KP_fan- Posts : 10604
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Re: So long Hoggy
Very fine bowler who was extremely poorly treated by England when dropped and then when overlooked for Pattinson a year later.
When people think of that quartet from 05 it's often the hostility of Harmison, reverse swing of Jones or histrionics of Flintoff that get remembered first but Hoggy was always the one I remembered most fondly as it didn't mater whether it was his first or 10th over of the spell, up the hill, into the wind, ball swinging round corners or doing nothing he was the sort of player who threw his hand up for his captain whenever needed.
It should also be noted I think that through all that he actually took more test wickets than Flintoff or Harmison (both excellent bowlers in their own right) at a lower average as well. And that's not to mention his always entertaining sense of humour or his efforts as a night watchmen.
A top player and a top bloke who will be sorely missed from the county circuit. Also apologies for how late I am posting this!
When people think of that quartet from 05 it's often the hostility of Harmison, reverse swing of Jones or histrionics of Flintoff that get remembered first but Hoggy was always the one I remembered most fondly as it didn't mater whether it was his first or 10th over of the spell, up the hill, into the wind, ball swinging round corners or doing nothing he was the sort of player who threw his hand up for his captain whenever needed.
It should also be noted I think that through all that he actually took more test wickets than Flintoff or Harmison (both excellent bowlers in their own right) at a lower average as well. And that's not to mention his always entertaining sense of humour or his efforts as a night watchmen.
A top player and a top bloke who will be sorely missed from the county circuit. Also apologies for how late I am posting this!
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Re: So long Hoggy
King - that's an excellent post and tribute.king_carlos wrote:Very fine bowler who was extremely poorly treated by England when dropped and then when overlooked for Pattinson a year later.
When people think of that quartet from 05 it's often the hostility of Harmison, reverse swing of Jones or histrionics of Flintoff that get remembered first but Hoggy was always the one I remembered most fondly as it didn't mater whether it was his first or 10th over of the spell, up the hill, into the wind, ball swinging round corners or doing nothing he was the sort of player who threw his hand up for his captain whenever needed.
It should also be noted I think that through all that he actually took more test wickets than Flintoff or Harmison (both excellent bowlers in their own right) at a lower average as well. And that's not to mention his always entertaining sense of humour or his efforts as a night watchmen.
A top player and a top bloke who will be sorely missed from the county circuit. Also apologies for how late I am posting this!
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