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Post by School Project Fri 13 Sep 2013, 12:39 pm

The weekend is almost here and with it comes the biggest fight of the Year. The moment Alverez was mentioned as a Mayweather opponent, many people doubted whether Floyd would take the challenge. Low and behold, he did and although the fight makes sense on a number of levels (financially, a decent challenge) it begs the question… Should Floyd win, who can he possibly face next?

Remember, Floyd has another 5 fights left on his contract after Alvarez.

The problem Floyd has is that he’s often accused of “cherry picking” his opponents. He’s a prizefighter and happens to be the biggest name in the sport, on top of him being the bonafide Pound for Pound fighter in the World. Who ever he “picks”, won’t be good enough.

Lets have a look at some names from the Welterweight division (excluding guys he’s already beat): Tim Bradley, Devon Alexander, Manny Pacquaio, Adrien Broner, Kell Brook and Marcos Maidana – Exclude the fact a couple of those guys are Top Rank fighters, Broner won’t go near Mayweather due to their close relationship and Kell Brook not having enough financial interest I think it’s safe to say the division is essentially dead for Floyd.

There’s a number of Light-Welters who could move UP to fight Floyd at Welter: The winner of the Matthysse vs. Garcia fight makes sense? But when you have Rios and Alvarado (again, both Top Rank) and the now slightly lower regarded Khan, the division, once more seems a bit thin.

Light Middle suffers the same problem, with Floyd facing Saul Alvarez (the top dog in LMW) – Fighting anyone else in this division also seems pointless. Which leads us to the only other viable option: Middleweight. Martinez and Golovkin have both expressed interest in dropping to Light Middle to fight a big name, but with Floyd stipulating a catch weight of 152 in the Alvarez fight, this might be a turn off.

When weighing all of this up – and I appreciate the rankings and boxers will change during the time of the Showtime contract… is the only viable fight out there Matthsse/Garcia?

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Post by The Terror of Tylorstown Fri 13 Sep 2013, 12:48 pm

He's got four fights left, he'll face the winner of Garcia/Matthyse next I'm sure, whoever comes out on top the Brook/Alexander/khan triangle. By which time a couple more viable fights may crop up.

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Post by JabMachineMK2 Fri 13 Sep 2013, 12:50 pm

This is the way I see Floyd fighting his next 4

1) Khan in the UK/Alexander in Vegas
2) Matthyse/Garcia
3) Bradley
4) Broner (by this point it will be clamored for)
5) Golovkin in a mega super fight.

If this is the route he takes and wins them all - I'd have him in the top 3 GOAT

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Post by superflyweight Fri 13 Sep 2013, 12:53 pm

Swap 2 and 1 around and you might be closer, JM. Have my doubts about Golovkin though. If Golovkin continues to look like a monster at middle, it's more likely that he'll fight Ward (jn a fight that wont particularly sell) than Floyd. Can't see Floyd (and probably rightly so) taking the risk.

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Post by JabMachineMK2 Fri 13 Sep 2013, 12:58 pm

He'll want Khan asap before he loses even more stock - there is no other UK fighter he could face that would bring in the same money as Khan, Mayweather vs Brook wouldn't sell as well.

I think Floyd will want to go out on a high and I think he'd beat Golovkin on a decision. Bear in mind Golovkin is effective when he hits and we're yet to see anyone constantly land on Mayweather, he's just too slick in my opinion to get caught clean by Golovkin.

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Post by The Terror of Tylorstown Fri 13 Sep 2013, 1:02 pm

Golovkin might not need to hit him clean, just pound the arms and wait for them to drop, I think that fight particularly into his late 30's is a bridge too far.

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Post by hazharrison Fri 13 Sep 2013, 1:05 pm

He has four fights left after beating Alvarez. Golovkin fight's a non-starter.

I'd imagine: Matthysse/Garcia, Thurman, Alexander/Khan, Bradley.

He'll then fight Pacquaio.

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Post by Lance Fri 13 Sep 2013, 1:11 pm

i expect hes hoping Garcia wins. that's an easy fight to sell. not that im saying matthysse wouldn't be good too. i think if Bradley beats marquez we will see flloyd fight Bradley at some point. pacman is still a decent fight even though its not half of what it was. if pac lowers his demands flloyd would go for it

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Post by mobilemaster8 Fri 13 Sep 2013, 1:17 pm

Mathyssee
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Post by hazharrison Fri 13 Sep 2013, 1:27 pm

If he's smart (which he is), he'll leave Pacquiao until he's 49-0 and out of contract.

Mo' money and all that.

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Post by KingMonkey Fri 13 Sep 2013, 1:32 pm

I really think its possible he'll look for a UK fight next. Khan or Brook are the only choices he has though and both are far from credible when you consider the winner of LM-Garcia.

Like the Guerrero fight though I think he'd consider it reasonably low risk (aside from fighting away) and a fantastic earner.

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Post by Steffan Fri 13 Sep 2013, 1:38 pm

KingMonkey wrote:I really think its possible he'll look for a UK fight next.  Khan or Brook are the only choices he has though and both are far from credible when you consider the winner of LM-Garcia.

Like the Guerrero fight though I think he'd consider it reasonably low risk (aside from fighting away) and a fantastic earner.
Khan possibly yes in Vegas though. I doubt Floyd has even heard of Brook

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Post by titaniumjaw Fri 13 Sep 2013, 1:53 pm

Hopefully khan next for two reasons 1. Hopefully will be in uk and I'd sell a kidney for a ticket haha 2 to once and for all shut khan up by giving him a beating haha

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Post by Izzi Fri 13 Sep 2013, 2:02 pm

titaniumjaw wrote:Hopefully khan next for two reasons 1. Hopefully will be in uk and I'd sell a kidney for a ticket haha 2 to once and for all shut khan up by giving him a beating haha
Would prefer to see Khan earn the right to fight him by going through Brook first. Not a guarantee either as Brook can bang, depends which version of Kell turns up though.

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Post by STC Fri 13 Sep 2013, 2:10 pm

Sergio Martinez.
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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Fri 13 Sep 2013, 2:14 pm

I was just thinking about how good/bad canelo has to look to get a rematch

Obviously it probably won't be as big, but if Canelo losses by a score of say 116-112 and had many moments, a year on and it would be bigger than a khan fight as canelo could say he was drianed. Canelo can say he learnt and is a year older/stronger/better etc and Mayweather is a year older/weaker/slower etc so there may be demand for it. Whether Floyd will accept is another matter

Matthysse/ Garcia is the obvious one, although garcia would make more money but besides that there isn't a lot. There was talk of maidana prior to Canelo so maybe, he sells well(ish) and obviously the winner of the ever impending Khan-Alexander fight

There isn't a lot, and Showtime do have pull with his contract and won't sanction $30mil for Floyd to fight a nobody with no hope

A lot of people watch floyd t see him lose, so if he loses against CAnelo he won't be such a big draw

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Where will Floyd go next?

Shopping, I believe he wants to own the colour green.

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Post by Strongback Fri 13 Sep 2013, 2:24 pm

Khan has been calling Floyd out this week saying he wants the fight in the UK.

Can't see the UK matching casino and Vegas money.


Floyd will never fight a natural middleweight.

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Post by STC Fri 13 Sep 2013, 2:32 pm

I think he might fight a middleweight. If he runs out of welterweights and light-middleweights he may want to end his 6 fight deal with a bang. I think he will fight Martinez, who is a small middleweight. Hopefully he fights him soon though because Martinez is on the slide.
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Post by KingMonkey Fri 13 Sep 2013, 2:33 pm

If it were to be in the UK they'd be talking Wembley Stadium, 80k+. God only knows what they'd make on the gate receipts. Hold it a bit late and you'll still get your US PPV money.

It all depends on whether or not Floyd wants to fight in the UK . I'm sure they can make the numbers work well enough.

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Post by J.Benson II Fri 13 Sep 2013, 2:37 pm

He'll almost certainly go for the Matthysse/Garcia winner.
If Khan beats Alexander then that fight is also highly likely.
The likes of Bradley, Alexander etc may not be popular enough to generate the type of money that would interest Floyd.
He won't touch Golovkin with a barge pole. Even if he is able to impose major stipulations, I can't see Floyd fancying that one.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Fri 13 Sep 2013, 2:39 pm

How does going through brook earn Khan (a former world champion) the right to face Mayweather?

Kell brook has face zero quality fighters period.

When he faces someone harder or more technically gifted then my gran, then id agree with that.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Fri 13 Sep 2013, 2:45 pm

Judging by forcing Canelo to fight at 154 and trying to get rehydration limit imposed, he is obviously wary of Canelo's size so I ca't see him against a middleweight (even if the come down) especially one as dangerous as GGG who is basically a bigger, stronger and better version of Canelo

If Martinez is past it enough maybe but in general no, I can't see it

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Post by STC Fri 13 Sep 2013, 2:51 pm

It might be his last fight, a middleweight title.
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Post by KingMonkey Fri 13 Sep 2013, 3:10 pm

GGG isn't coming down. He'll go up if anything.

Bradley is unlikely to get made what with the politics.

Is Broner an option? I know they're supposed to be friends now but it wouldn't take much with egos like they have for a fall-out.

Brook is somehow very highly ranked with Ring Mag. A win against Senchenko should set up a big fight against the likes of Alexander etc. After that could be Floyd. Guerrero didn't do much more than that, likewise Ortiz.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Fri 13 Sep 2013, 3:21 pm

No but Ortiz had fought the likes of Berto, Maidana, Lopez etc etc and Guerrero had also fought Aydin, Berto, Katsidis etc etc.

Ortiz
Guerrero
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Probably ten more....would all beat Brook.

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Post by seanmichaels Fri 13 Sep 2013, 3:21 pm

Love the way one thread claims Mayweather is a cherry picker whilst another asks what Khan has done to deserve a shot at Mayweather.

Simple fact is that a Khan fight in the UK is probably only just behind the revenue that would be had by fighting Coppernob or Pacquiao.

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Post by milkyboy Fri 13 Sep 2013, 3:41 pm

Mattresses/garcia
Khan if he beats Alexander... big if.
Pac assuming he beats Rios.
Jmm 2 if he beats Bradley

Possibly Martinez but only at junior middle. No way after his career does he risk a dangerous middle in his last fight.

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Post by STC Fri 13 Sep 2013, 3:50 pm

milkyboy wrote:Possibly Martinez but only at junior middle. No way after his career does he risk a dangerous middle in his last fight.
Why not? Maybe he wants to go down as a 6 weight world champion.

Doesn't have to be GGG. All he needs is to beat a world title holder. Could you not see him beating Darren Barker?
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Post by titaniumjaw Fri 13 Sep 2013, 3:53 pm

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Hopefully khan next for two reasons 1. Hopefully will be in uk and I'd sell a kidney for a ticket haha 2 to once and for all shut khan up by giving him a beating haha

Would prefer to see Khan earn the right to fight him by going through Brook first. Not a guarantee either as Brook can bang, depends which version of Kell turns up though.

Haha.



No matter who khan beats he doesn't deserve a shot at flloyd. Khan keeps calling him out because he knows hell get the massive pay day he honestly can't believe he gonna beat fmj with that glass jaw if his

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Post by Rowley Fri 13 Sep 2013, 3:53 pm

Has anyone ruptured a spleen yet of the back of Khan even being mentioned on the same website as Floyd yet. Jumped up little upstart.

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Post by seanmichaels Fri 13 Sep 2013, 3:57 pm

Rowley wrote:Has anyone ruptured a spleen yet of the back of Khan even being mentioned on the same website as Floyd yet. Jumped up little upstart.
Mayweather will want to fight Khan. Easy fight, big money. Unless FMJ no longer cares about money and wants the best for his legacy. Khan knows that. Also FMJ was in talks to fight Alexander so if Khan beats him he's earned the right.

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Post by ShahenshahG Fri 13 Sep 2013, 3:58 pm

If Khan gets lucky and beats FMJ - there are going to be mass suicides Laugh Luckily its about as likely as Audley knocking out Wlad

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Post by milkyboy Fri 13 Sep 2013, 4:03 pm

STC wrote:
milkyboy wrote:Possibly Martinez but only at junior middle. No way after his career does he risk a dangerous middle in his last fight.
Why not? Maybe he wants to go down as a 6 weight world champion.

Doesn't have to be GGG. All he needs is to beat a world title holder. Could you not see him beating Darren Barker?
I could indeed cobra, thought I'd covered that with the phrase 'dangerous middle'. Agree he might fancy a middleweight belt on his cv... but it would have to be a geale not a golovkin.

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Post by milkyboy Fri 13 Sep 2013, 4:05 pm

Im gonna have a tenner on khan if it happens. Maybe a fiver. Bit flash with my cash me.

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Post by STC Fri 13 Sep 2013, 4:10 pm

milkyboy wrote:
STC wrote:
milkyboy wrote:Possibly Martinez but only at junior middle. No way after his career does he risk a dangerous middle in his last fight.
Why not? Maybe he wants to go down as a 6 weight world champion.

Doesn't have to be GGG. All he needs is to beat a world title holder. Could you not see him beating Darren Barker?
I could indeed cobra, thought I'd covered that with the phrase 'dangerous middle'. Agree he might fancy a middleweight belt on his cv... but it would have to be a geale not a golovkin.
Yeah, fair one.

I'd steer clear of Golovkin for obvious reasons. but I can see him beating any other middleweight out there. I think he might go for it. Nothing to prove at welter or light middle.
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Post by The Terror of Tylorstown Fri 13 Sep 2013, 4:13 pm

mobilemaster8 wrote:No but Ortiz had fought the likes of Berto, Maidana, Lopez etc etc and Guerrero had also fought Aydin, Berto, Katsidis etc etc.

Ortiz
Guerrero
Maidana
Lopez
Berto
Khan
Alexander
Bradley
Malignaggi

Probably ten more....would all beat Brook.
I'd only back Mayweather, Marquez and Pacquiao with any real conviction, of the rest he could beat them all on a given night especially Lopez, Maidana, Khan, Berto and Malignaggi. Guerrero could outhustle him but would have to absorb a lot of punishment to get close while Berto and Alexander just aren't that good. I'd love to know who these other ten are.

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Post by ShahenshahG Fri 13 Sep 2013, 4:19 pm

The top ten heavyweights

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Post by milkyboy Fri 13 Sep 2013, 4:22 pm

STC wrote:
milkyboy wrote:
STC wrote:
milkyboy wrote:Possibly Martinez but only at junior middle. No way after his career does he risk a dangerous middle in his last fight.
Why not? Maybe he wants to go down as a 6 weight world champion.

Doesn't have to be GGG. All he needs is to beat a world title holder. Could you not see him beating Darren Barker?
I could indeed cobra, thought I'd covered that with the phrase 'dangerous middle'. Agree he might fancy a middleweight belt on his cv... but it would have to be a geale not a golovkin.
Yeah, fair one.

I'd steer clear of Golovkin for obvious reasons. but I can see him beating any other middleweight out there. I think he might go for it. Nothing to prove at welter or light middle.
You could be right, we're maybe talking 2 years away so who knows where the belts are then. I think he'd be so wary to risk his 0 (assuming he still has it), that he'd be careful who he chose.

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Post by Lance Fri 13 Sep 2013, 4:44 pm

flloyd wont fight in the UK. just something he dangles to the british press to get the fans even more interested. too much comfort and money for him in Vegas. and despite flloyd being the biggest boxer in the world he wouldn't sell Wembley out.

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Post by YDKSAB Fri 13 Sep 2013, 5:38 pm

Where does Mayweather go next? Answer is OBVIOUS!

Look who is on the UNDERCARD. Money May is giving these guys the EXPOSURE. Winner of Danny and Lucas will be NEXT.

Forget Pac and Bradley they are with Uncle Bob who aint interested. He KNOWS Mayweather schools these guys and he is taking Pac to China.

Money May does business with Golden Boy. When he schools Canelo and Oscar gets out of rehab then he will be passing on his BLUEPRINT to Danny or Lucas to get a whooping!!!

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Post by Diamond in the rough Fri 13 Sep 2013, 7:16 pm

I said this 3 years ago mayweather and mannys last fight will be against each other when none of them have any contractual obligations and will sell to the highest bidder!

His next fight will be Garcia/mattysse winner an then I'm sure he will be hoping khan wins golovkin doesn't deserve the fight yet but if he keeps winning and floyd doesn't look too small against alverez I can see that fight happening later on depending on how well known golovkin becomes

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Post by YDKSAB Fri 13 Sep 2013, 7:50 pm

Diamond in the rough wrote:I said this 3 years ago mayweather and mannys last fight will be against each other when none of them have any contractual obligations and will sell to the highest bidder!

His next fight will be Garcia/mattysse winner an then I'm sure he will be hoping khan wins golovkin doesn't deserve the fight yet but if he keeps winning and floyd doesn't look too small against alverez I can see that fight happening later on depending on how well known golovkin becomes
Pac dont want Mayweather bro. He had his chance already.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 13 Sep 2013, 8:28 pm

No No No........Stay in character........

He had his chance already M****RF****R

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