Ongoing NFL Discussion Thread IV

by GSC Fri 13 Sep 2013, 4:21 pm

First topic message reminder :

PFFs team of week 1 if anyone cares

QB: Carson Palmer
RB: LeSean McCoy
FB: Colin Mooney
TE: Julius Thomas
WR: Anquan Boldin, Danny Amendola
T: Brandon Albert, Austin Howard
G: Evan Mathis, Marshal Yanda
C; Jason Kelce

DL: JJ Watt, Jurell Casey, Gerald McCoy
Edge Rushers: Robert Quinn, Cam Wake
ILB: Derrick Johnson, DeAndre Levy
CB: Chris Harris, Cary Williams
S: Eric Berry, Ryan Mundy

by mikeygnfl Sun 29 Sep 2013, 10:23 pm

Olly wrote:So despite being 0-4 the Steelers still aren't completely out of the division. Looks like 9-7 will win that division this year

Who'd have thought that the Cleveland Browns would be in it two weeks ago.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 29 Sep 2013, 10:39 pm

Jake Locker's showing good signs of promise so far this year

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 29 Sep 2013, 11:12 pm

...and he gets carted off injured

by **Pr4wn** Sun 29 Sep 2013, 11:46 pm

Another Jets buttfumble!

by Take it to the house Sun 29 Sep 2013, 11:46 pm

Peyton Manning clap

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 29 Sep 2013, 11:56 pm

Pfft he's no Matt Cassell

by Number-25 Mon 30 Sep 2013, 12:04 am

This Redskins/Raiders game is a tough watch. Offensively it's been an absolute eyesore!

by mikeygnfl Mon 30 Sep 2013, 12:09 am

Pr4wn wrote:Another Jets buttfumble!

Tim Tebow's still looking for an NFL teams...

by mikeygnfl Mon 30 Sep 2013, 12:11 am

Number-25 wrote:This Redskins/Raiders game is a tough watch. Offensively it's been an absolute eyesore!

6-10 could win the NFC East this year.

by Take it to the house Mon 30 Sep 2013, 12:19 am

Will need about 15 points from my flex, who to go for, Edelman/Wallace, tough decision! Still haven't decided

by Number-25 Mon 30 Sep 2013, 12:22 am

Oh dear... Raiders have a 4th and inches at the Redskins 15 trailing by 10 with 3 mins left and...... Matt Flynn fumbles on the QB sneak.

by NYJ Mon 30 Sep 2013, 12:32 am

That Jets game felt exactly like the buttfumble game. I had a constant look of disgust on my face as Geno wouldn't throw the ball and when he did, he threw it to blue jerseys. The only way we will win games is if we don't turn over the ball. Massive if.

by twelve283 Mon 30 Sep 2013, 1:05 am

Take it to the house wrote:Will need about 15 points from my flex, who to go for, Edelman/Wallace, tough decision! Still haven't decided

If it was 8-10 I would start Edelman with confidence but you might have to roll the dice on Wallace to get 15 plus, the Saints defense has been stingy with WRs though.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 30 Sep 2013, 3:32 am

We're dropping like flies at the minute

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 30 Sep 2013, 3:51 am

Awful play calling by Atlanta. Only rushing 3 on 3rd and 19 giving Brady 9 seconds to throw?! Utterly ridiculous

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 30 Sep 2013, 4:19 am

Collinsworth's comment that guys' off-field problems get fixed when they come to NE ignores something pretty enormous Laugh

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 30 Sep 2013, 4:29 am

ffs Sudfeld

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 30 Sep 2013, 4:31 am

As if we're gonna throw this away

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 30 Sep 2013, 4:39 am

The Falcons really do make some batshit crazy calls

Like throwing to the rookie TE on 3rd down and goal basically, instead of you know the HOF TE who already has 2 TD's and 150 yards

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 30 Sep 2013, 4:45 am

OH DEAR

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 30 Sep 2013, 4:50 am

TALIB!!!!!!!!!!

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 30 Sep 2013, 4:52 am

Great win despite our best efforts to throw it away!

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 30 Sep 2013, 7:48 am

by sodhat Mon 30 Sep 2013, 9:34 am

Number-25 wrote:Oh dear... Raiders have a 4th and inches at the Redskins 15 trailing by 10 with 3 mins left and...... Matt Flynn fumbles on the QB sneak.

We didn't deserve to beat you guys in the end.

Flynn was terrible. His O line did him few favours, sure, but even when he had time or he made throws he wasn't moving the sticks. Hell, I could just check it down to Jennings all game for £6m a year. Who'd have thought Pryor would be so vital to us after 4 games?

The defense was pretty good though. Forced a turnover with good hustle, pressured RG3 in the pocket plenty and didn't give up the big play. We even stopped the run for a portion of the game! But when the offense can't stay on the field for more than 4 downs then your D hasn't got a chance.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 30 Sep 2013, 10:45 am

Vince Wilfork likely out for the season with a torn achilles.

Ok that's a pretty big blow

by Number-25 Mon 30 Sep 2013, 11:07 am

sodhat wrote:
Number-25 wrote:Oh dear... Raiders have a 4th and inches at the Redskins 15 trailing by 10 with 3 mins left and...... Matt Flynn fumbles on the QB sneak.
We didn't deserve to beat you guys in the end.

Flynn was terrible. His O line did him few favours, sure, but even when he had time or he made throws he wasn't moving the sticks. Hell, I could just check it down to Jennings all game for £6m a year. Who'd have thought Pryor would be so vital to us after 4 games?

The defense was pretty good though. Forced a turnover with good hustle, pressured RG3 in the pocket plenty and didn't give up the big play. We even stopped the run for a portion of the game! But when the offense can't stay on the field for more than 4 downs then your D hasn't got a chance.

Pretty fair assessment soddy. The commentators made a few comments about Flynn holding on to the ball too long and though it's often hard to tell when just watching on the telly, it did look that way. Our secondary has been a car crash so far this season so I find it hard to believe that they were as good as Flynn made them look. We did get good pressure but I'm sure of that was down to Flynn holding the ball too long.

Offensively the game was a real eyesore - on top of Flynn's struggles, the Redskins got nothing going until midway through the 3rd quarter and even then it was only really just enough and we needed the defense to set it up for us. I was pleased to see us stick with the running game throughout though and for us to get back to a much more balanced attack.

All in all, not one of the best games anyone will watch this season but a win is a win and depending on results next weekend, the Redskins could go into our game with Dallas on the other side of our bye with the chance to go top of the division which is just ludicrous. Thank God for the NFC Least.

by twelve283 Mon 30 Sep 2013, 12:25 pm

Olly wrote:Vince Wilfork likely out for the season with a torn achilles.

Ok that's a pretty big blow

Oh ****. Still I have faith in Joe Vellano who was underrated throughout the draft process last year.

1st half Talib did a good job on Julio Jones with help over the top, pretty good RZ defense as well. On offense we moved the ball pretty well, having a running game helped, couple of drops by the rookie WRs - need to hands catch better.

2nd half - fell asleep. :/

by mikeygnfl Mon 30 Sep 2013, 2:42 pm

So Peyton Manning is 4-0 with an all star team while Tom Brady is 4-0 with a bunch of misfits and undrafted rookies.

Brady needs to work on his buttfumbling though.

by GSC Mon 30 Sep 2013, 3:44 pm

Peyton Manning is the best QB of all time. There I said it

by GSC Mon 30 Sep 2013, 3:50 pm

Denver averages more points a game than Jacksonville or Tampa have total

by sodhat Mon 30 Sep 2013, 3:54 pm

GSC wrote:Peyton Manning is the best QB of all time. There I said it

Let's all wait patiently while New England and 49er fans gather their argument of "more rings"

by GSC Mon 30 Sep 2013, 3:58 pm

sodhat wrote:
GSC wrote:Peyton Manning is the best QB of all time. There I said it
Let's all wait patiently while New England and 49er fans gather their argument of "more rings"

Joe Montana is the 2nd most talented QB ever obv

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 30 Sep 2013, 6:45 pm

GSC wrote:Peyton Manning is the best QB of all time. There I said it

You missed out the words "regular season" there Whistle

by NYJ Mon 30 Sep 2013, 6:54 pm

People need to realise how bad the Giants, Raiders and Eagles are before crowning the Broncos 16-0 Super Bowl champions.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 30 Sep 2013, 6:54 pm

twelve283 wrote:
Olly wrote:Vince Wilfork likely out for the season with a torn achilles.

Ok that's a pretty big blow
Oh ****. Still I have faith in Joe Vellano who was underrated throughout the draft process last year.

1st half Talib did a good job on Julio Jones with help over the top, pretty good RZ defense as well. On offense we moved the ball pretty well, having a running game helped, couple of drops by the rookie WRs - need to hands catch better.

2nd half - fell asleep. :/

I'd like us to go out and maybe bring in a FA to help with Vellano/Kelly, they ain't gonna be able to do it all themselves

by Take it to the house Mon 30 Sep 2013, 8:14 pm

twelve283 wrote:
Take it to the house wrote:Will need about 15 points from my flex, who to go for, Edelman/Wallace, tough decision! Still haven't decided
If it was 8-10 I would start Edelman with confidence but you might have to roll the dice on Wallace to get 15 plus, the Saints defense has been stingy with WRs though.

You were dead right, he got me 11 so lost by 5, bet Wallace gets 15+ today too

by mikeygnfl Tue 01 Oct 2013, 12:27 am

Just seen that Eurosport are showing highlights from the NCAA at 12.30am before the Saints vs Dolphins game.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 01 Oct 2013, 12:28 am

Cam Wake out for the Dolphins tonight, big loss

by mikeygnfl Tue 01 Oct 2013, 12:37 am

Olly wrote:Cam Wake out for the Dolphins tonight, big loss

Should see more of Dion Jordan then.

by mikeygnfl Tue 01 Oct 2013, 12:52 am

Josh Freeman enters drug program...?

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 01 Oct 2013, 12:55 am

But he hasn't done drugs?

I'm not so sure about this, smells of the Bucs putting something out there to justify their decision to bench him even more

by mikeygnfl Tue 01 Oct 2013, 12:59 am

The whole Freeman-Bucs thing seems a bit strange. Tampa Bay seem intent on shooting themselves in the foot.

by Lowlandbrit Tue 01 Oct 2013, 7:43 am

Bucs/Freeman situation somehow keeps getting uglier. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/09/30/josh-freeman-statement/

by **Pr4wn** Tue 01 Oct 2013, 7:57 am

I've never been so ashamed to say that I'm a Tampa Bay Buccaneers fan in my life, and that says a lot. I don't have much money but I've paid for a trip to Tampa this November and if I could get a refund, I'd cancel it in a second.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 01 Oct 2013, 10:25 am

Saints are looking good this year

That Jimmy Graham TD in triple coverage was mental

by GSC Tue 01 Oct 2013, 11:44 am

Man even the dream team never got this dysfunctional

by Number-25 Tue 01 Oct 2013, 7:01 pm

Antrel Rolle predicts 12 game winning streak for the Giants Laugh

by GSC Tue 01 Oct 2013, 7:28 pm

Justin Tuck threatens to punch any Giant that gives in on Coughlin.

I've seen him this season, no way he'd get to me in time

by mikeygnfl Tue 01 Oct 2013, 9:19 pm

Number-25 wrote:Antrel Rolle predicts 12 game winning streak for the Giants

I actually said a similar thing on one of the nfl.com articles. Not quite having the Giants going 12-0 but did say it wouldn't surprise me if the Giants went on a winning run with the talent they have on their roster.

I still expect the Redskins to win the division. They were in a catch 22 situation at the start of the season. They really should have started Kirk Cousins if they wanted to give themselves a chance but then RG3 need to play to get match fit. With the way the division has gone so far, they have probably taken the right decision. The Cowboys are probably the most steady team in the division and will be strong at home but are a pretty average team at best. Roll on the Johnny Manziel era thumbsup

The Eagles just look a mess. Mike Vick is not the future. It was a mistake, in my opinion starting him last year, and to repeat that mistake this season is idiotic.

by GSC Tue 01 Oct 2013, 9:20 pm

The Giants aren't winning up front. Until they do they won't be going anywhere

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