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Post by GSC Fri 13 Sep 2013, 4:21 pm

First topic message reminder :

PFFs team of week 1 if anyone cares

QB: Carson Palmer
RB: LeSean McCoy
FB: Colin Mooney
TE: Julius Thomas
WR: Anquan Boldin, Danny Amendola
T: Brandon Albert, Austin Howard
G: Evan Mathis, Marshal Yanda
C; Jason Kelce

DL: JJ Watt, Jurell Casey, Gerald McCoy
Edge Rushers: Robert Quinn, Cam Wake
ILB: Derrick Johnson, DeAndre Levy
CB: Chris Harris, Cary Williams
S: Eric Berry, Ryan Mundy
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 07 Oct 2013, 4:01 pm

Jacksonville Jaguars ‏@jaguars
Stay classy, Denver. RT @DenverBroncos: The #Broncos' 51 points in yesterday's win are as many points as the Jaguars have scored all season.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 07 Oct 2013, 4:15 pm

Denver Broncos ‏@DenverBroncos
No shots, just stats. RT @jaguars: Stay classy, Denver. MT @DenverBroncos: #Broncos' 51 pts Sun. are as many as JAX has scored all season.

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Post by sodhat Mon 07 Oct 2013, 4:16 pm

If Jacksonville don't want to get ribbed about being terrible, they should be less terrible.

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Post by Lowlandbrit Mon 07 Oct 2013, 4:56 pm

Las Vegas giving Jags a record 4 touchdown head start for their game against Denver.

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Post by GSC Mon 07 Oct 2013, 8:11 pm

Matt Flynn released. Start the timer on his return to GB.
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Post by Colan (niner) Mon 07 Oct 2013, 9:12 pm

Adam Schefter said on nfl insiders, 49ers are in discussions with browns over Josh Gordon. Think Browns may want a lot but I'd even give up a first if need be, love him as a player and he and Crabtree longterm would be exciting

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 07 Oct 2013, 9:22 pm

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet
Browns aren't shopping their stars. But they have talked to teams about Josh Gordon, including #49ers. They'd like a 2nd rounder in return

I seriously hope we would be in the hunt here. Especially seeming as in the second round we tend to take random Rutgers players. He'd be a nice weapon to have
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Post by Colan (niner) Mon 07 Oct 2013, 9:29 pm

I doubt anything come from this. But I'm just imagining a three wideout set with Boldin, Crabtree and Gordon in playoffs, with Vernon Davis inside:D 

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Post by mikeygnfl Mon 07 Oct 2013, 9:33 pm

Josh Gordon for Colt McCoy anyone?
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Post by Lowlandbrit Mon 07 Oct 2013, 9:37 pm

2nd seems a little cheap, especially now they're winning.

In other news; yellow penalty flags coming back next week, thank goodness. Too confusing when players are carrying around pink towels too.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 07 Oct 2013, 9:40 pm

Would personally give up a 2nd in a heartbeat for him. Hell I'd chuck in another late rounder too
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Post by GSC Mon 07 Oct 2013, 9:44 pm

Reminder, Josh Gordon is a failed drugs test away from a season ban
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Post by Colan (niner) Mon 07 Oct 2013, 9:48 pm

GSC wrote:Reminder, Josh Gordon is a failed drugs test away from a season ban
I'd take that risk, knows he can't screw up anymore. Plus niners are one of few teams who have lottery of picks, if we waste a second it wouldn't se us back like other teams. He's a top ten pick if he was in 2014 draft so i think second is good

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Post by mikeygnfl Mon 07 Oct 2013, 10:41 pm

The 49ers get Kansas City's 2nd pick if the Chiefs win 8 or more games this season as part of the Alex Smith trade. As the Chiefs are 5-0 that is pretty much done.
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Post by BamBam Mon 07 Oct 2013, 10:50 pm

I thought it was if the Chiefs made the playoffs we get a 2nd rounder

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 08 Oct 2013, 12:55 am

How has Matt Flynn managed to get paid $14.5 million over the past two years. Mental
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Post by BamBam Tue 08 Oct 2013, 12:58 am

https://twitter.com/elias_trejo/status/387342240491638784

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 08 Oct 2013, 4:37 am

Wow what a game. The Falcons are done
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Post by NYJ Tue 08 Oct 2013, 2:27 pm

No turnovers on offense means a win for the Jets. This defense is just so damn good.
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Post by BamBam Tue 08 Oct 2013, 2:34 pm

28 points Whistle 

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Post by BamBam Tue 08 Oct 2013, 2:34 pm

To be fair, I didn't watch the game so can't judge on how the defence performed, but giving up 28 points doesn't strike me as a great defensive performance

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Post by Pr4wn Tue 08 Oct 2013, 2:55 pm

The Falcons have so many weapons but from what I've read, their offensive line got completely shredded by Wilkerson and Richardson.

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Post by skins4ever Tue 08 Oct 2013, 2:59 pm

Olly wrote:How has Matt Flynn managed to get paid $14.5 million  over the past two years. Mental
Being paid on the basis of potential and one big end of season meaningless games in GB. To be fair, no pocket passer would survive behind the Raiders sieve, sorry, OL.

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Post by sodhat Tue 08 Oct 2013, 3:04 pm

I was talking to a friend last night and we both came to the conclusion that there are quite a few bad O-lines at the moment. Giants, Steelers, Raiders, Cowboys, Redskins, Green Bay, Cardinals etc etc.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 08 Oct 2013, 4:08 pm

BamBam wrote:To be fair, I didn't watch the game so can't judge on how the defence performed, but giving up 28 points doesn't strike me as a great defensive performance
We only gave up 23 pts to them Cool 
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 08 Oct 2013, 6:13 pm

Jay Glazer ‏@JayGlazer
Breaking: Falcons fear Julio Jones likely OUT for the rest of the year w a foot injury. He's getting a second opinion tomorrow to determine

So just when things couldn't get any worse for Atlanta...
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Post by GSC Tue 08 Oct 2013, 6:45 pm

Wonder if the Chiefs might make a run at Tony Gonzalez
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Post by twelve283 Tue 08 Oct 2013, 6:45 pm

Olly wrote:Jay Glazer ‏@JayGlazer
Breaking: Falcons fear Julio Jones likely OUT for the rest of the year w a foot injury. He's getting a second opinion tomorrow to determine

So just when things couldn't get any worse for Atlanta...
Sucks for Jones and the Falcons (and my fantasy team with Matt Ryan at QB).

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Post by GSC Tue 08 Oct 2013, 7:17 pm

I really can't say I'm a great fan of the fit. I really felt Freeman needed stability and good coaching over an opportunity to play right away. i wonder how much security Frazier has if the team bottoms out in a tough NFC North
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 08 Oct 2013, 7:44 pm

3 London Games next year, Jags, Raiders and Falcons the home teams.

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Post by BamBam Tue 08 Oct 2013, 8:17 pm

Great news! Falcons will be a decent side as usual, and the Raiders have a good following over here so should be some interest

@adbrandt: Now @nfl to increase games in London, going to three in 2014. 3 will then go to 4, 4 to 5 and so on approaching new CBA in 2020.



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Post by Guest Tue 08 Oct 2013, 8:43 pm

I cant wait to see the Raiders

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Post by mikeygnfl Tue 08 Oct 2013, 9:38 pm

It will be interesting to see if it will be six different teams coming to Wembley next year or whether they will test the water and give the Jaguars and away game in London vs the Falcons or Raiders? It wouldn't surprise me either if the 49ers and Patriots would be interested in those away games.
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Post by crazy_dave23 Tue 08 Oct 2013, 9:40 pm

Hadn't thought of that concept... are the divisions rotated correctly for next year to allow it?

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 08 Oct 2013, 9:40 pm

Pats don't play any of those teams away as far as I know. Do play the Raiders at Gillette tho
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Post by adams_legend Tue 08 Oct 2013, 10:29 pm

Just watched the MNF game and am wandering why commenters keep blowing smoke up Ryan's arse. He has not done anything to get all this great praise

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Post by NYJ Tue 08 Oct 2013, 10:41 pm

BamBam wrote:28 points Whistle 
Haha, doesn't look great to the naked eye. Biased article, but shows how well the Defense performed last night:

NY Daily News wrote:ATLANTA — It was the kind of stand Jets’ coach Rex Ryan relishes.

With a first and goal at the 4 yard line, the Atlanta Falcons were in position to punch in a touchdown right before halftime and cut the Jets’ lead to 17-14.

But not on this night, not against this defense. Even a defensive holding call against the Jets on the penultimate play of the half didn’t matter. The Jets just stopped the Falcons one more time, stuffing a Jacquizz Rodgers running play as time expired in the first half.

“Stressful at first but it feels good," rookie defensive lineman Sheldon Richardson.

It sure did. While Geno Smith got all the praise for the victory, it was Gang Green’s defense that kept Atlanta off balance for most of the night, keeping the Jets in the game and in position to win at the end.

At times, defensive lineman Mo Wilkerson and the Jets defense overwhelmed the Falcons offensive line. In the third quarter alone, Wilkerson whirled passed two linemen, then strip sacked quarterback Matt Ryan. He then leveled tailback Jacquizz Rodgers for a loss of one yard.

“Borderline unstoppable," linebacker Calvin Pace said.

Everywhere Matt Ryan looked, there appeared to be a Jets pass rusher. If it wasn't Wilkerson, it was Richardson or safety Jaiquawn Jarrett coming on a blitz. The Jets were able to interrupt Ryan's rhythm with timely pass rushes and a stout approach against the run. The Falcons were limited to 64 rushing yards, but Matt Ryan kept them in the game with 319 yards in the air.

Ryan did give the Falcons a 28-27 lead with under two minutes left into the game, but even that wasn’t easy, as the Jets appeared to stuff Atlanta in the red zone, only to have a defensive holding penalty give Atlanta a second chance to take the lead.

"The biggest thing is that we finished the game," cornerback Antonio Cromartie said.

There was no lack of aggressiveness from Wilkerson or Quinton Coples. Both were fined for their hits on Tennessee Titans quarterback Jake Locker in last week's loss. Coples and Wilkerson are appealing their punishment and played without hesitation. Coples picked up a quarterback hit while Wilkerson gave the Jets 10 tackles.

"Rex always tells us to stick together, keep fighting, believe in your brother next to you," Wilkerson said, "and we did that tonight."

For all the stands made by the Jets, from the strip sack of Matt Ryan to the tackles for loss and leveling hits, it was goal line stand that doubled as the biggest statement.

"We didn't get to him as much as we wanted but, but we definitely got to him in clutch situations," Richardson said.
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Post by NYJ Tue 08 Oct 2013, 10:44 pm

adams_legend wrote:Just watched the MNF game and am wandering why commenters keep blowing smoke up Ryan's arse. He has not done anything to get all this great praise
There were two main things Gruden was consistently praising Ryan for. It was his pre snap reads/count and his rapport with Tony Gonzalez. I would never disagree with anything Jon Gruden says.
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Post by Pr4wn Tue 08 Oct 2013, 10:52 pm

adams_legend wrote:Just watched the MNF game and am wandering why commenters keep blowing smoke up Ryan's arse. He has not done anything to get all this great praise
I thought that to blow smoke up someone's ads was to mislead them or tell them something false.

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Post by Pr4wn Tue 08 Oct 2013, 10:54 pm

Or rather to tell someone what they want to hear.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 09 Oct 2013, 9:23 pm

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000259850/article/aldon-smith-charged-with-assault-weapon-possession?campaign=Twitter_atl

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Post by GSC Wed 09 Oct 2013, 11:04 pm

Justin Smith bought the guns, Aldon just got credit for it
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Post by GSC Thu 10 Oct 2013, 8:46 pm

Carl Nicks has MRSA again.

The Bucs really are stride for stride with last years Jets
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Post by Number-25 Fri 11 Oct 2013, 9:22 am

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000218737/article/peyton-manning-vs-eli-manning-who-is-the-better-quarterback

Laugh Anyone see this actual supposed debate about who was the better QB, Peyton or Eli? I only found the link in a story about last night's game on NFL.com. Ridiculous stuff! Check out what that idiot Jason Smith said Laugh

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 11 Oct 2013, 9:38 am

I'm surprised we haven't seen Nassib yet. Eli's been beyond woeful
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Post by BamBam Fri 11 Oct 2013, 9:57 am

Pretty tough to bench a 2 ring QB for a rookie with no game time

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 11 Oct 2013, 9:59 am

Can he play any worse than what Eli is right now?
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Post by BamBam Fri 11 Oct 2013, 10:03 am

Behind that O line, with that running game? I would say yes!

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 11 Oct 2013, 10:08 am

Don't think you can blame the picks thrown yesterday on any of them, just poor poor QB play.
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Laugh Poor guy
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