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Post by GSC Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:21 am

First topic message reminder :

PFFs team of week 1 if anyone cares

QB: Carson Palmer
RB: LeSean McCoy
FB: Colin Mooney
TE: Julius Thomas
WR: Anquan Boldin, Danny Amendola
T: Brandon Albert, Austin Howard
G: Evan Mathis, Marshal Yanda
C; Jason Kelce

DL: JJ Watt, Jurell Casey, Gerald McCoy
Edge Rushers: Robert Quinn, Cam Wake
ILB: Derrick Johnson, DeAndre Levy
CB: Chris Harris, Cary Williams
S: Eric Berry, Ryan Mundy
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:38 pm

TOM Frak BRADY
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Post by BamBam Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:39 pm

Frak indeed. Bloody amazing

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Post by Take it to the house Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:41 pm

Such a beautiful throw

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:47 pm

I just don't quite understand how we are 5-1, but we are! We just win!!

I want Tom Brady to have my babies
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:03 pm

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He gotta be mad at Peyton/Brees. How did they not close that game out!

How am I meant to sleep now!!!
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Post by cherriesfna Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:17 am

really dissapointed by seattle last night

yes we won, but we turned what should have been a simple win into something we have to sweat over, looking back on it as winner sall i can do is laugh at that maragos fumble but jesus it was bad
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:15 am

After watching the game last night, I can't be the only one thinking in the long run it'd be better for the Skins to let RG3 have a couple of games off to get properly better.
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Post by cherriesfna Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:06 am

Olly wrote:After watching the game last night, I can't be the only one thinking in the long run it'd be better for the Skins to let RG3 have a couple of games off to get properly better.
they have no hopes of the play-offs.

without RG3s legs they have been horribly exposed and a team and RG3 as a player,

Without griffins legs teams and shut him down and watching him last year he looked to take off whenever leaving defenders having to guard against that and leaving recievers open, this year it aint happening and its showing,
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:24 pm

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Post by skins4ever Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:33 pm

cherriesfna wrote:
Olly wrote:After watching the game last night, I can't be the only one thinking in the long run it'd be better for the Skins to let RG3 have a couple of games off to get properly better.
they have no hopes of the play-offs.

without RG3s legs they have been horribly exposed and a team and RG3 as a player,

Without griffins legs teams and shut him down and watching him last year he looked to take off whenever leaving defenders having to guard against that and leaving recievers open, this year it aint happening and its showing,
The Skins problems start and end with the cap penalty. RGIII is not playing any worse than half the QB's in the league and a whole lot better than some (Schaub, Ponder or Gabbert anyone?). The issue is the D cannot get off the field and allow the O to get a rhythm on the field. The reason the D cannot get off the field is we haven't been able to replace lower tier players in the secondary and DL (and maybe a better ILB would help). Hall is barely a #1 CB, Wilson is on the decline and no other team would start Doughty and Merriweather. Our DL cannot get penetration so Rak and Kerrigan are getting dedicated blockers and stifling our pass rush. If we could shut down receivers, then at least we'd give the DL time to get to the QB. Also OL and RB blocking is above average at best. We missed key blocks on a number of crucial plays last night that were the difference between keeping the Pokes O off the field and putting long scoring drives together. Being able to bring in 1 or 2 top FA OL would be a difference maker. A quality burner like Wallace would also be a difference maker.

Skins need to cut the aging downward trenders (sorry much as I like Moss, Fletcher and Hall, they have to be out the door or demoted to 2nd string), next year, and bring in good young players via the draft and FA once the cap hit is lifted. I reckon next year or the year after (assuming next year is a 'rebuilding' year) this will be a much better team. We got the best out of an aging bunch last year, and now they are showing their age.

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Post by GSC Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:56 pm

I think there's definitely rust on RG3, but benching him won't solve that. 1 offensive first half TD this season tells its own story, the Skins aren't getting it done in competitive games, an they don't have the defense to compensate.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:25 pm

I'm not saying bench him, but to me he doesn't look properly healthy yet, and with the season all but over, I don't see why you would stop him from getting back to 100% for next year
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Post by GSC Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:28 pm

Because the issues are more than physical. He needs game time
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:22 am

That was a pretty awful game from Pagano and the Colts offensive co-ordinator. Dreadfully conservative play calling all night, you've got the best young QB in the game, let him do his thing.
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Post by skins4ever Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:08 am

GSC wrote:Because the issues are more than physical. He needs game time
What he says. Some of his runs were almost back to last years level. Its his missing open receivers, picks and fumbles that bother me. No preseason is showing still. 2-3 more games under his belt (with maybe the pressure off now we are 3 games back) should see him getting back to last years form. Sitting on the bench now won't help him, particularly his confidence.

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Post by sodhat Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:16 am

With the lack of draft picks, injury to RG3, lack of cap space and general aging of the team it was always going to be somewhat of a "free" year in Washington. Once they get RG3 right then they can start really building around him. And adding some pieces to their defense...

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Post by GSC Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:04 pm

Heres Eli Manning after each INT

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Post by mikeygnfl Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:13 pm

Watching the Chargers in the past couple of games, still surprised Keenan Allen wasn't taken early in the draft despite problems at the time.
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Post by skins4ever Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:28 pm

mikeygnfl wrote:Watching the Chargers in the past couple of games, still surprised Keenan Allen wasn't taken early in the draft despite problems at the time.
I got him off waivers! Smile

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:41 am

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000264209/article/new-england-patriots-jerod-mayo-has-pectoral-surgery

Well Poopie. That's gonna be a tough one to overcome
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Post by mikeygnfl Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:33 pm

Josh Freeman to start for the Vikings this week. Peyton Hillis looks likely to sign for the Giants.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:58 pm

Mayo joins big Vince on IR for the year.

Talib, Amendola, Connolly, Kelly all missed practice today.

Man we're screwed
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:09 pm

Oh and McCourty and Edelman were both limited in practice today
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Post by Lowlandbrit Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:26 pm

Browns signed a guy off the Packers' practice squad who turns out to have a torn ACL, still have to have him on their 53 man roster for the next 3 games.

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Post by BamBam Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:50 pm

"As always, God hates Cleveland" - Bill Simmons

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Post by Lowlandbrit Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:22 pm

Texans trying to capture some of that Browns magic: Schaub's out, Case Keenum is starting Sunday.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:21 am

Good win for Seattle last night, Wilson was brilliant
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:35 am

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Drew Rosenhaus text: "Rob (Gronkowski) has now been cleared by all his doctors to play Sunday in the Jets game."

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Post by Guest Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:10 pm

Watch the occassional NFL game & usually tune into the Superbowl but just watched the Sky feature on the life & career of Kurt Warner. Incredible story on & off the field & a genuine good guy. Really enjoyed watching the programme.

As for this season, I guess I'm a Brady/NE fan. Hope he can do it this year.

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Post by CFCNick Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:14 pm

You don't want none of that Patriots BS. The New York Football Giants is where it's at. You never know which side will turn up!!! Although the first six weeks have all been awful.

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Post by GSC Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:15 pm

The New York Giants is also where the #1 pick is at
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Post by The Mangler US_UK Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:21 pm

Watched the game last night and while Carson Palmer is more accurate than John Skelton -- he still sucks. My fear is that we'll be just good enough this year not to land a stellar QB prospect in the draft. Of course, we still need a real left tackle too.

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Post by CFCNick Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:38 pm

GSC wrote:The New York Giants is also where the #1 pick is at
Yep. Like winning Super Bowl's we are better than Cleveland at tanking too.

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Post by Lowlandbrit Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:08 pm

CFCNick wrote:
GSC wrote:The New York Giants is also where the #1 pick is at
Yep. Like winning Super Bowl's we are better than Cleveland at tanking too.
Giants don't have the pure lack of talent of Jacksonville though.

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Post by CFCNick Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:56 am

That's what makes it extra special. The team is so talented they can do better at being bad than actual bad players.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:32 pm

Gronk play? Gronk catch ball from Tommy? Gronk score and Gronk spike! GRONK GRONK GRONK!!!!!
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Post by GSC Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:42 pm

Gronk break back
Gronk sit out games
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Post by skins4ever Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:16 pm

Olly wrote:Good win for Seattle last night, Wilson was brilliant
By brilliant you mean brilliant apart from the fumbles? He's good, but a brilliant QB knows when pressure is coming and keeps the ball safe, not carry it like a loaf of bread. They could have totally killed the Cards without those TO's.

I tell you what was brilliant, Fitz getting not one, but two massive blocks. I think Sherman has some serious respect for the guy now, if he didn't already! Wish he could get fantasy points for it, as his hammy seriously reduced his receiving impact.

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Post by GSC Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:01 am

With reports that Dallas is moving on from Murray, worth noting Jerruh had a real hard on for McFadden coming out of college.
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Post by BamBam Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:04 am

@ProFootballTalk: On Cowboys and possible RB trades -- Dallas reportedly had Darren McFadden at the very top of their board in 2008 http://t.co/hCvZBuZlmD

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Post by GSC Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:11 am

That would be the report
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Post by crazy_dave23 Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:28 pm

BamBam wrote:@ProFootballTalk: On Cowboys and possible RB trades -- Dallas reportedly had Darren McFadden at the very top of their board in 2008 http://t.co/hCvZBuZlmD
its only cuz he was from Arkansas

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:29 pm

Brett Favre has Aaron Rodgers on his fantasy team.
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Post by crazy_dave23 Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:41 pm

Olly wrote:Brett Favre has Aaron Rodgers on his fantasy team.
and Amendola...

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:45 pm

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Post by Bull Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:00 pm

GO JAY GO!

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:02 pm

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#Jets make Zach Sudfeld a captain against former team, the #Patriots.

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Post by Bull Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:03 pm

Jets to beat the Pats! ((Heard it here first))

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:13 pm

Injuries just killed our defence. Don't think we can cope without Mayo tbh
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