Ongoing NFL Discussion Thread IV

by GSC Fri 13 Sep 2013, 4:21 pm

First topic message reminder :

PFFs team of week 1 if anyone cares

QB: Carson Palmer
RB: LeSean McCoy
FB: Colin Mooney
TE: Julius Thomas
WR: Anquan Boldin, Danny Amendola
T: Brandon Albert, Austin Howard
G: Evan Mathis, Marshal Yanda
C; Jason Kelce

DL: JJ Watt, Jurell Casey, Gerald McCoy
Edge Rushers: Robert Quinn, Cam Wake
ILB: Derrick Johnson, DeAndre Levy
CB: Chris Harris, Cary Williams
S: Eric Berry, Ryan Mundy

by mikeygnfl Sun 20 Oct 2013, 10:55 pm

It looks like my fantasy seasons in the West and keeper are almost over, give or take the odd miracle.

by BamBam Sun 20 Oct 2013, 11:16 pm

Is there nothing happening in the Packers game? Curious as to why RedZone is showing so little

by GSC Sun 20 Oct 2013, 11:32 pm

Sickener for Cushing. Coming back once was hard enough

by Lowlandbrit Sun 20 Oct 2013, 11:50 pm

Keenum looking surprisingly decent, although with all their RBs hurting he's probably in his element.

by mikeygnfl Mon 21 Oct 2013, 12:36 am

Alex Smith is 26-5-1 in his last 33 games. Second only to Peyton Manning.

by mikeygnfl Mon 21 Oct 2013, 3:24 am

twelve283 wrote:
GSC wrote:If only Foles could play Tampa every week
Meh, you would think he'd prefer to play the D# giving up over 300 passing yards per game and missing DeMarcus Ware.

Apparently Foles was playing with a groin injury. Avant should have caught a TD too.

by mikeygnfl Mon 21 Oct 2013, 3:25 am

Need to go to bed but watching Andrew Luck outplay Peyton Manning is too much fun. The Broncos have finally come up against a defence.

by GSC Mon 21 Oct 2013, 8:48 am

mikeygnfl wrote:
twelve283 wrote:
GSC wrote:If only Foles could play Tampa every week
Meh, you would think he'd prefer to play the D# giving up over 300 passing yards per game and missing DeMarcus Ware.
Apparently Foles was playing with a groin injury. Avant should have caught a TD too.

Eh that was a horrible pass from Foles, Avant was wide open and he threw it at the ground in front of him. He injured his groin pre Tampa

by GSC Mon 21 Oct 2013, 8:50 am

The Colts have beaten the 49ers, Seahawks and Broncos.

Staking a claim to be AFC contenders

by sodhat Mon 21 Oct 2013, 9:14 am

mikeygnfl wrote:Alex Smith is 26-5-1 in his last 33 games. Second only to Peyton Manning.

He really is riding that defense in my opinion.

I watched the Raiders defense almost shut him down for 3 quarters before our turnovers became too much and when they eventually meet an equally good defense then I see them being beaten.

by BamBam Mon 21 Oct 2013, 12:59 pm

Andrew Luck must be some sort of cyborg sent to destroy the NFL

by NYJ Mon 21 Oct 2013, 1:07 pm

Oh those Jets. When the offense can move the ball, we win games. New England defense is nothing without Jerod Mayo as we were regularly running the ball consecutive times for first downs in the latter stages of the game.

Tough game against the Bengals defense next week (@CIN). I can see Geno falling short on this one which would keep up the "one good, one bad" pattern. After that it's a tough one at home to the Saints. If we can get one win out of the next two, we go into our bye at .500 with a favourable home stretch. Can we actually make the playoffs?

by GSC Mon 21 Oct 2013, 1:17 pm

Quietly the AFC North is trying out terrible the NFC East. The Steelers have gone from 0-4 to a game off 2nd place in 2 weeks

by mikeygnfl Mon 21 Oct 2013, 2:48 pm

Playoff picture:-

AFC

Chiefs, Broncos, Bengals and Colts are looking pretty good.

Patriots are still favourites in the AFC East.

The final playoff spot is wide open though.

NFC

Seahawks, 49ers and Saints should make it.

Packers and Cowboys are looking the most likely/ consistant in their divisions.

Possibly a shoot-out between the Lions and Bears for the final spot?

by GSC Mon 21 Oct 2013, 3:31 pm

Dont sleep on the panthers

Might be McCown show in Chicago

by wadey101 Mon 21 Oct 2013, 4:00 pm

I don't think Atlanta are out of it yet for a wildcard in the NFC. Once they get White and Jackson back I think they'll run off a few wins and compete with Chicago and Detroit for the final play off spot.

I reckon the chiefs will lose the majority of their remaining games, not convinced by them at all, can see them ending with a 11-5 or 10-6 record and going out first round of playoffs.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 21 Oct 2013, 4:16 pm

NYJ wrote:Oh those Jets. When the offense can move the ball, we win games. New England defense is nothing without Jerod Mayo as we were regularly running the ball consecutive times for first downs in the latter stages of the game.

Tough game against the Bengals defense next week (@CIN). I can see Geno falling short on this one which would keep up the "one good, one bad" pattern. After that it's a tough one at home to the Saints. If we can get one win out of the next two, we go into our bye at .500 with a favourable home stretch. Can we actually make the playoffs?

Outside shot at the wildcard I reckon, and you're right Mayo's loss just killed our run D. Not too optimistic about our season now him and Wilfork are down for the year

Also how bout dem Colts!!! Serious shots in the AFC now

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 21 Oct 2013, 4:29 pm

If Denver's gonna be a real contender, that defence is gonna have to step up big time.

In fact this Denver team reminds me of many Pats teams of recent years tbh

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 21 Oct 2013, 4:33 pm

Oh and Welker making circus catches was just daggers straight through my heart.

by GSC Mon 21 Oct 2013, 4:34 pm

When it rains it pours, Doug Martin done for the season

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 21 Oct 2013, 4:35 pm

AND FINALLY

Denver don't be taking the ball out of Manning's hands. Let your Hall of Fame QB get the score for gods sake, not a RB who has fumbling issues

by mikeygnfl Mon 21 Oct 2013, 4:49 pm

I wonder if the Colts are interested in going back to Cleveland to give up their second round pick for Josh Gordon with Reggie Wayne out for the season and DHB not catching.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 21 Oct 2013, 5:06 pm

Titans owner Bud Adams has passed away

Tough day

by GSC Mon 21 Oct 2013, 5:29 pm

Somewhere up there he's flipping off Jesus

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 21 Oct 2013, 5:39 pm

Bradford also done for the season, Lance Briggs out 4-6 weeks

by mikeygnfl Mon 21 Oct 2013, 5:46 pm

So Doug Martin, Reggie Wayne, Sam Bradford and Brian Cushing are all done for the season. Tim Tebow is being linked with the Rams idea

by GSC Mon 21 Oct 2013, 5:46 pm

And nothing of value was lost (by the Rams)

by skins4ever Tue 22 Oct 2013, 12:22 am

The only thing I would say that is anywhere near definite about the playoffs is that the Jags will be watching them on TV. I wouldn't rule anyone else out quite yet. There's a few likely candidates that will probably al but rule themselves out in the next 2-3 weeks, but its to early to make solid predictions.

by **Pr4wn** Tue 22 Oct 2013, 12:51 am

I'd rule out the Buccaneers...

by mikeygnfl Tue 22 Oct 2013, 1:01 am

Olly wrote:If Denver's gonna be a real contender, that defence is gonna have to step up big time.

In fact this Denver team reminds me of many Pats teams of recent years tbh

Only the Bears, Jaguars and Giants have shipped more points this year.

by CFCNick Tue 22 Oct 2013, 1:24 am

Pr4wn wrote:I'd rule out the Buccaneers...

And Giants

by mikeygnfl Tue 22 Oct 2013, 1:37 am

CFCNick wrote:
Pr4wn wrote:I'd rule out the Buccaneers...
And Giants

I take it the Giants Super Bowl run starts tonight then?

by mikeygnfl Tue 22 Oct 2013, 1:40 am

Led by Madden cover running back Peyton Hillis Run

by CFCNick Tue 22 Oct 2013, 1:55 am

Hakeem, Hakeem, Hakeem......

On the bright side we have something that resembles a running game. What black magic is this???

by GSC Tue 22 Oct 2013, 6:58 am

Add a QB who went 0-4 to a 1-4 team and you get...that

by **Pr4wn** Tue 22 Oct 2013, 11:21 am

I reckon Nicks will be traded to Indianapolis...

by twelve283 Tue 22 Oct 2013, 11:48 am

Greg Schiano might have his faults but getting rid of Josh Freeman wasn't one of them, guys a total bum. That potential turned into a big pile of...

by NYJ Tue 22 Oct 2013, 12:00 pm

That game was disgraceful. The worst game I've seen this season.

by **Pr4wn** Tue 22 Oct 2013, 12:20 pm

Frazier was stupid throwing him in after only a week and a half. That being said, his short and intermediate passing have always been terrible.

by Lowlandbrit Tue 22 Oct 2013, 12:56 pm

The craziest part was having him throw so much when you also have Adrian Peterson, the alien cyborg who works best when everyone in the stadium knows he's getting it every down.

by mikeygnfl Tue 22 Oct 2013, 2:28 pm

I actually stayed up and watched both games this weekend. Two nights, two games, two Peytons.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 22 Oct 2013, 4:05 pm

Horrible coaching by Frazier last night, I wouldn't be too harsh on Freeman at the minute, he's only been there a week and a half and they tried to make him the star of the offence that has AP on it!!

Crazy stuff

by twelve283 Tue 22 Oct 2013, 4:37 pm

Olly wrote:Horrible coaching by Frazier last night, I wouldn't be too harsh on Freeman at the minute, he's only been there a week and a half and they tried to make him the star of the offence that has AP on it!!

Crazy stuff

Sorry Olly but i'm not buying that as the reason for Freeman's ineptitude last night. Frazier can take some heat for starting a quarterback before he has a grasp of the full playbook but at some point (for me it came after about the 20th overthrown pass of the night) we just have to concede that Freeman cant throw for ****.

by GSC Tue 22 Oct 2013, 4:39 pm

You've got a QB who isn't good in general and doesn't know the playbook

You have Adrian Peterson

You throw 53 times and rush 16

by twelve283 Tue 22 Oct 2013, 4:51 pm

The one good thing about Freeman last night was his movement in the pocket...that's it.

Giants stacked the box to stop Peterson. Freeman needed to hit some passes to loosen things up but the way he played the Giants could have played cover 0 all night and just sent the blitz every play run or pass. I wouldn't have been worried about Freeman hitting any hot read the way he was throwing the ball last night.

by sodhat Tue 22 Oct 2013, 7:10 pm

Just watched it. Freeman was appalling all game.

I just can't understand why they were throwing so much. I would if they were a long way behind...but even in the third it was only 10 points. Give Peterson the damn ball!

by Take it to the house Tue 22 Oct 2013, 8:43 pm

I've got no idea what we were doing yesterday, it was if the coaches were treating it as a pre-season game giving Freeman practice! And on top of that it wasn't even the whole playbook. Not used AD well enough at all this year, O-line hasn't helped either in both pass&run blocking.
Bit disappointing as we could have fought for another wildcard position because on paper, the team has improved as a whole.

by mikeygnfl Wed 23 Oct 2013, 12:08 am

The Jaguars in good form ahead of their Wembley outing http://thebiglead.com/2013/05/18/jaguars-cheerleader-swimsuit-video-is-something-to-root-for-video/

by NYJ Wed 23 Oct 2013, 12:13 pm

The Vikes couldn't run the ball so abandoned it early on. Only problem is, Freeman couldn't throw the ball either. I would still have liked to get Peterson involved in the passing game more on nice easy dump offs and screen passes. Get the offense in a rhythm and Freeman's confidence up a wee bit whilst slowing down the pass rush. It would open things up for the run game as well.

by Number-25 Wed 23 Oct 2013, 7:46 pm

Is it just me or is there a lot of whining going on in the NFL this season? Seem to be so many players complaining about this, that or the other. It's really starting to bug me. Isn't it supposed to be a man's game and all that? The Bears' players are the latest ones at it - yeah Brandon Merriweather's hits were out of order, well one of them was and the other was open to interpretation by the refs but come on, man up people... it's a tough sport and stuff like that is gonna happen - if you don't like it then get out the league. Martellus Bennett's claim that he'd like to punch Merriweather in the face is just laughable - why not do it on the field on Sunday tough guy??? Why wait to say it when you're in Chicago and he's in Washington??? Maybe cos you're not actually that tough??? Quit whining like a bunch of little girls!!

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