How does Mayweather sell his next fight?

by **Seanusarrilius** Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:16 pm

don't see how he is going to make 1mill plus ppv buys in future fights. There is simply no competitive opponent for him, or anybody charismatic enough to carry a ppv. Danny Garcia's dad is the one most are saying would sell their fight, but he respects Floyd and would no doubt know deep down that his son was overmatched. Keith Thurman has a bit of a mouth, but zero fan base at this point and needs building.

Mayweather has no competition.

by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:18 pm

We've discussed this on another Mayweather thread mate..........

number 1 fighter, unique etc....

I thought Tyson had no competition........Mayweather will be 37 soon remember that...

by OasisBFC Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:19 pm

i've been thinking the same thing. it's like Wladimir, but even more definitive.

by mobilemaster8 Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:23 pm

The only money making fight he could do is with Khan in the UK in my eyes.

He would make more doing that (and its and easy night for him) at say Wembley on Sky PPV than he would fighting a Bradley or a Garcia stateside with both having little to no fanbase.

Khan is pretty big in the Uk and sells out well. A fight at wembley would be huge over here.

Providing khan don't get chin checked before then. Which he probably will.

by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:27 pm

HE SELLS HIS FIGHTS...........Because he's one in a generation fighter who people will pay to watch because when he goes he'll never be replaced...

He's boxing royalty..

Like Sinatra...Or O'sullivan in snooker..............Woods at golf.

They'll be imitators but no Floyd's..............

by **seanmichaels** Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:28 pm

If he fought Khan here it would sell by the truck load both here and in the US.

by Lumbering_Jack Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:34 pm

Plenty of fighters out there to challenge Floyd but he won't want them. If he wants his top 10 stop he needs to challenge the top middleweights. GGG or Martinez would be a good start, and no weight draining this time please.

by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:35 pm

Lumbering_Jack wrote:Plenty of fighters out there to challenge Floyd but he won't want them. If he wants his top 10 stop he needs to challenge the top middleweights. GGG or Martinez would be a good start, and no weight draining this time please.

He's a no good bum ducker...we get it..

by mobilemaster8 Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:37 pm

Lumbering....seriously? You want him to jump AGAIN in weight and fight Golovkin? The guy cant get above 152lbs mate how would he do that? I take it for Ward to secure his legacy he will have to fight Wladamir then.

by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:38 pm

mobilemaster8 wrote:Lumbering....seriously? You want him to jump AGAIN in weight and fight Golovkin? The guy cant get above 152lbs mate how would he do that? I take it for Ward to secure his legacy he will have to fight Wladamir then.

He's a t*t that goes from section to section looking to get a rise...wouldn't waste you breath

by TopHat24/7 Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:39 pm

He'll sell Khan in the UK or Garcia in the States (I see he, the two 'Srs' will be doing all the work!) but that's about it.

He's untouchable and not overly exciting. Will always be popular to a degree but there's got to be a limit to how many times generalist US fans are going to shell out $75 to watch a training session.

Which I guess brings about a possible answer to the OP - better price marketing. I.e. let people buy a 'package' 3 fight deal for $100 or something, maybe 2-4-1 on his next 2 fights.

by mobilemaster8 Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:39 pm

Gathered that from reading his other "posts" earlier.

Breath wasted Sad

by **Seanusarrilius** Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:42 pm

Khan in the UK could be the fight tbh. But Khan is no doubt going to get ko'd by Alexander since he keeps banging on about May

by Lumbering_Jack Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:43 pm

He's a title holder at 154, middleweight is a full 6lb above that. Hardly like asking him to move to cruiser.

Duran fought an absolute beast in Hagler at MW, why is it so bad to suggest Floyd moves up too. Lets face it, the MW fighters don't have the talent of Hagler.

by mobilemaster8 Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:05 pm

Pacquiao fought Margarito at 154lbd and was champion and then relinquished it straight away vowing to never fight there again. Nobody bat an eyelid.

Floyd has fought there 3 times in 45 fights. He is Welter not a funky fledged LMW just like Pacquaio.

by TopHat24/7 Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:07 pm

Nobody bat an eyelid?

Behave.

Pac's had plenty of stick for catchweights and the like, ironically mainly from you flomos.

by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:09 pm

mobilemaster8 wrote:Pacquiao fought Margarito at 154lbd and was champion and then relinquished it straight away vowing to never fight there again. Nobody bat an eyelid.

Floyd has fought there 3 times in 45 fights. He is Welter not a funky fledged LMW just like Pacquaio.

You've got 2 idiots for the price of one Mate..

Keep them on here will you !! thumbsup

by mobilemaster8 Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:11 pm

No tophat you miss read my point.

Nobody said he should step up and fight Golovkin or Martinez because he was too small yet he is a fully fledged welter and has won a title at LMW.

why do we expect Mayweather to step up yet again for a challenge but Pacquiao its unheard of

in not on about catchweights or anything.

by mobilemaster8 Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:13 pm

When Pacquiao won the LMW title, why didn't anyone ask him to fight Sergio Martinez? Or Paul Williams? Or someone equally talented at 160lbs +?

Because he is too small is what the answer was.

Im saying Mayweather is also too small as he cant get over 152lbs let alone 160lbs.

by TopHat24/7 Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:13 pm

I agree your central premise, I just think your 'nobody batted an eyelid' comment was wrong/misguided.

As Truss likes to bang on about Floyd being a 130lber originally, if any comparison is worth making at this point it's that Pac started at, what? 112? Something like that.

by TopHat24/7 Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:14 pm

mobilemaster8 wrote:When Pacquiao won the LMW title, why didn't anyone ask him to fight Sergio Martinez? Or Paul Williams? Or someone equally talented at 160lbs +?

Because he is too small is what the answer was.

Im saying Mayweather is also too small as he cant get over 152lbs let alone 160lbs.

PW was a 147 fight, wasn't he??

by Guest Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:16 pm

How doe he sell his next fight?

Easy

We have three fighters shortlisted to face him and they all train for three months. They turn up at the arena and come fight time the PPV audience at home presses on of three buttons on their tv remote to vote for who they want to see in the ring.

Floyd goes in blind (not literally, that's for his NEXT fight against Larry Merchant).

.....or he goes on a three months alcohol and drugs binge and fights Oscar.

by mobilemaster8 Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:16 pm

He did indeed Tophat but he is was A very small framed fighter who ballooned in weights to match his eventual frame. Everybody has a peak and Mayweathers and Pacquiaos is at Welter.

when i mentioned batting an eyelid, in saying that when he won, he ditched the title and had no intention of defending it at all which nobody bat an eyelid at. Nobody w him about going to 160 due to the ease in which he won at 154.

by Boxtthis Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:32 pm

I don't think anyone really expects Floyd to go to 160. He'd have to bulk up in order to get over 154lbs.

Both Martinez and, more realistically, Golovkin have said they can make 154 to fight him. These are clearly the toughest challenges to take. Wins in these fights would be seriously legacy enhancing and, for me, would put Floyd with (but still behind) the absolute top figures at around the weight - Ray Robinson and Ray Leonard.

Alas, I very much doubt Floyd takes these fights. He's proved he amongst the greatest already, and would be well within his rights to close out the show by trashing Garcia, Khan, or even Manny. I'd love to see him take one big risk before the end. Beating Martinez or Golovkin would be his (not quite as impressive) version of Leonard beating Hagler.

by mobilemaster8 Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:35 pm

He was top hat but stepped up. Sure he was signed to fighting alvarez before he had his motor bike accident.

by TopHat24/7 Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:41 pm

Yeh, I know he had the Cintron fights for example at a higher weight. Was just trying to remember about when the Floyd one was mooted, definitely don't think it was ever talked about at higher than 154.

by STC Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:44 pm

Boxtthis wrote:I don't think anyone really expects Floyd to go to 160. He'd have to bulk up in order to get over 154lbs.

Does he need to get over 154?

Even if he fought Martinez for the WBC middleweight title he could still fight at a similar weight to what he was Saturday night. Martinez is a small middleweight, he can't weigh much more than Alvarez weighs in the ring. Even if Martinez comes into the ring at 165 or something, Maywether at 154 that's still not a huge difference.

There was a much larger difference between Haye and Wlad but some how that doesn't seem to count.

by hazharrison Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:49 pm

Garcia's earned a crack at Floyd. You'd have to imagine that will be next.

by YDKSAB Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:54 pm

People on here DKSAB. Money dont have to come in over 154 to BEAT Martinez.

Canelo weigh 165-168 on FIGHT NIGHT. Martinez weigh 167-170 on FIGHT NIGHT. SMALL DIFFERANCE. Money SCHOOLS both of them weighing 150.

Mayweather is a SPECIAL TALENT. He can BEAT fighters 20 pounds heavier.

by STC Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:59 pm

YDKSAB wrote:People on here DKSAB. Money dont have to come in over 154 to BEAT Martinez.

Canelo weigh 165-168 on FIGHT NIGHT. Martinez weigh 167-170 on FIGHT NIGHT. SMALL DIFFERANCE. Money SCHOOLS both of them weighing 150.

Mayweather is a SPECIAL TALENT. He can BEAT fighters 20 pounds heavier.

I agree with this.

But the question is will he take the risk? A middleweight title would be a great achievement, especially if he can beat the man (which is Martinez at the moment) at middleweight. But it's far more of a risk than finishing off his career at light middle/welter. He may value his '0' more than another world title at another weight.

by YDKSAB Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:05 pm

STC wrote:
YDKSAB wrote:People on here DKSAB. Money dont have to come in over 154 to BEAT Martinez.

Canelo weigh 165-168 on FIGHT NIGHT. Martinez weigh 167-170 on FIGHT NIGHT. SMALL DIFFERANCE. Money SCHOOLS both of them weighing 150.

Mayweather is a SPECIAL TALENT. He can BEAT fighters 20 pounds heavier.
I agree with this.

But the question is will he take the risk? A middleweight title would be a great achievement, especially if he can beat the man (which is Martinez at the moment) at middleweight. But it's far more of a risk than finishing off his career at light middle/welter. He may value his '0' more than another world title at another weight.

People said that about Canelo bro.

by **seanmichaels** Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:13 pm

jeez. Evander is on Talksport right now. He's fried......

by smashingstormcrow Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:13 pm

I was thinking about this earlier. A few years back, Andy Roddick played a journalist at tennis. The agreed handicap - "A-Rod" had to use a frying pan.

Mayweather seems to be so far ahead of his contemporaries, he'd have to have some sort of handicap to make the fight competitive. Perhaps make him wear roller skates, or huge comedy boxing gloves.

by Lance Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:34 pm

I expect hes hoping Bradley wins. that would be the perfect fight next for him. the conqueror of Manny and Marquez. unpopular due to his fortunate decision over Manny. undefeated too...

by Guest Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:36 pm

smashingstormcrow wrote:I was thinking about this earlier. A few years back, Andy Roddick played a journalist at tennis. The agreed handicap - "A-Rod" had to use a frying pan.

Mayweather seems to be so far ahead of his contemporaries, he'd have to have some sort of handicap to make the fight competitive. Perhaps make him wear roller skates, or huge comedy boxing gloves.

Surely the idea would be to make him EASIER to catch and punch in the face. Fail to see how those two idems would be a handicap.

Oh.....if only Joe Calzaghe would come out of retirement to face Floyd then they could both have a legacy defining fight (cough)

by School Project Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:40 pm

Quick question as I've been away from the boards for a little bit...

But is YDKSAB a joke account? or is this a legitimate poster?

by Guest Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:44 pm

SCHOOL PROJECT be tripping if he don't KNOW that YDKSAB is the REAL DEAL just like the man FLOYD. This forum be NUTHIN but a JOKE and a place for HATERS to be HATIN on FLOYD.

BUMS get SKOOLED jus like SCHOOL PROJECT be getting SKOOLED.

I think I may have logged into the wrong account (I've got that many it's hard to get track these days)

by TopHat24/7 Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:45 pm

DAVE667 wrote:
I think I may have logged into the wrong account (I've got that many it's hard to get track these days)

Or speak/write properly either, apparently.

by Guest Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:47 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
I think I may have logged into the wrong account (I've got that many it's hard to get track these days)
Or speak/write properly either, apparently.

To be honest, I've got a grudging admiration for the knucklehead because it's damn difficult to keep up that level of inanity whilst randomly writing words in capitals for reasons known only to oneself.

by School Project Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:48 pm

DAVE667 wrote:SCHOOL PROJECT be tripping if he don't KNOW that YDKSAB is the REAL DEAL just like the man FLOYD. This forum be NUTHIN but a JOKE and a place for HATERS to be HATIN on FLOYD.

BUMS get SKOOLED jus like SCHOOL PROJECT be getting SKOOLED.

I think I may have logged into the wrong account (I've got that many it's hard to get track these days)

Haha,

I initially thought that D4 might have hit his head, believed he was black and become Mayweathers biggest fan.

D4 was funny because it was unintentional, YDKSAB just seems annoying.

I wonder just how much sh*t HE knows about the SPORT of BOXING?!

by Guest Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:03 pm

School Project wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:SCHOOL PROJECT be tripping if he don't KNOW that YDKSAB is the REAL DEAL just like the man FLOYD. This forum be NUTHIN but a JOKE and a place for HATERS to be HATIN on FLOYD.

BUMS get SKOOLED jus like SCHOOL PROJECT be getting SKOOLED.

I think I may have logged into the wrong account (I've got that many it's hard to get track these days)
Haha,

I initially thought that D4 might have hit his head, believed he was black and become Mayweathers biggest fan.

D4 was funny because it was unintentional, YDKSAB just seems annoying.

I wonder just how much sh*t HE knows about the SPORT of BOXING?!

Does it matter? It's clear the guy feels none of us know sheet about boxing so however little he knows it's apparently more than us.

by smashingstormcrow Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:05 pm

[quote="DAVE667"]

smashingstormcrow wrote:

Surely the idea would be to make him EASIER to catch and punch in the face. Fail to see how those two idems would be a handicap.

You think roller skates would be an advantage in the boxing ring? Admittedly I have never stepped into the square ring, but I was punched in the face once, and I have also tried roller skating once. I fell over on both occasions, so I was assuming that any activity combining the two would be tricky at best.

by Guest Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:25 pm

smashingstormcrow wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
smashingstormcrow wrote:

Surely the idea would be to make him EASIER to catch and punch in the face. Fail to see how those two idems would be a handicap.

You think roller skates would be an advantage in the boxing ring? Admittedly I have never stepped into the square ring, but I was punched in the face once, and I have also tried roller skating once. I fell over on both occasions, so I was assuming that any activity combining the two would be tricky at best.

Think that says more about you than anything else. kiss

by STC Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:43 am

YDKSAB wrote:
STC wrote:
YDKSAB wrote:People on here DKSAB. Money dont have to come in over 154 to BEAT Martinez.

Canelo weigh 165-168 on FIGHT NIGHT. Martinez weigh 167-170 on FIGHT NIGHT. SMALL DIFFERANCE. Money SCHOOLS both of them weighing 150.

Mayweather is a SPECIAL TALENT. He can BEAT fighters 20 pounds heavier.
I agree with this.

But the question is will he take the risk? A middleweight title would be a great achievement, especially if he can beat the man (which is Martinez at the moment) at middleweight. But it's far more of a risk than finishing off his career at light middle/welter. He may value his '0' more than another world title at another weight.
People said that about Canelo bro.

Word cuz.

by Kev Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:02 pm

STC wrote:
YDKSAB wrote:
STC wrote:
YDKSAB wrote:People on here DKSAB. Money dont have to come in over 154 to BEAT Martinez.

Canelo weigh 165-168 on FIGHT NIGHT. Martinez weigh 167-170 on FIGHT NIGHT. SMALL DIFFERANCE. Money SCHOOLS both of them weighing 150.

Mayweather is a SPECIAL TALENT. He can BEAT fighters 20 pounds heavier.
I agree with this.

But the question is will he take the risk? A middleweight title would be a great achievement, especially if he can beat the man (which is Martinez at the moment) at middleweight. But it's far more of a risk than finishing off his career at light middle/welter. He may value his '0' more than another world title at another weight.
People said that about Canelo bro.
Word cuz.

Moving up to 160 wouldn't be an option he said he woke up on Saturday morning 146lbs so he has no chance of getting up to 160. Martinez would need to come down which he has said he could do although that was a couple of years ago. Mayweather would beat him comfortably mind you. If Rios or Bradley win they could be an option and so could Pacquiao if he won. Alexander would be another option. I still don't believe that Mayweather and Broner won't fight each other in 18-24 months time that could be bigger than the Canelo fight.

by **Seanusarrilius** Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:04 pm

Rios/Bradley/over the hill Pac/Alexander

Not exactly mouth watering is it. Broner in a year would be the best option but that probably won't happen. Plus, Broner could get dusted in mean time if last performance is anything to go by.

by TRUSSMAN66 Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:07 pm

Maybe floyd should do what every other champion does fight a complete stiff out of the top 10....and then a mandatory against another stiff.....

He should be complemented on taking on the best around......

It's double standards by many on here.

by Kev Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:08 pm

If Rios beats Pac in a good fight or Bradley beats Marquez in a good fight then they are easy sells both have been involved in some really good fights in the past. If Pac were to beat Rios in a good fight then that fight is probably still the biggest fight Mayweather can make. Alexander isn't a great name but not every fight is going to break records he is a good fighter and probably deserves a shot.

by **Seanusarrilius** Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:12 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Maybe floyd should do what every other champion does fight a complete stiff out of the top 10....and then a mandatory against another stiff.....

He should be complemented on taking on the best around......

It's double standards by many on here.

I am not blaming him for the lack of credible opponents, Truss, if that was directed at me? It's just here aren't any. Floyd always takes on a top opponent, but he has to as he is always PPV and makes 30 mill plus a fight, you know. Just wish there was better opposition available. Pac would be a mismatch now and Floyd would get zero credit.

Martinez at 154
Thurman if he stays udefeated and ups his profile
Garcia is a name but that's a a mismatch

by TRUSSMAN66 Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:17 pm

Wasn't a pop at you Mate..........Just stating that most other fighters fight mandatories and handpick easy top 10ers when they aren't........

When this guy beats up Canelo, guerrero types they are - Urine weak, overrated non-entities etc....

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