Kell Brook v Vyacheslav Senchenko
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Kell Brook v Vyacheslav Senchenko
Suprised this huge clash is going under the radar so thought I would write a little review:
After only 9 years as a professional, Kell Brook is one of Britain's top prospects. Wins against Matthew Hatton, Lovemore Ndou and tough American Carson Jones have proven that Brook is up there and able to compete with the best. Here in his biggest challenge yet, at only 27 years old, Brook will fight at the well known Motorpoint Arena in Sheffield, a place where he was highly succesful the last time he fought there stopping Argentinian Hector David Saldivia. His opponent, the man who single handedly destroyed Ricky Hattons career, Ukrainian fighter Vyacheslav Senchenko. Brook will have a tough time looking to seek revenge for his fellow Brit Hatton
Senchenko only has the one loss to hard hitting American Paul Malignaggi where he was stopped in the 9th round. This aside, Senchenko has impressive recent wins over fighters such as Marco Antonio Avendano, Charlie Navarro and Motoki Sasaki. Fighting away from home is also not a problem for Senchenko. Only 31 of his 35 fights have been inside his home country of the Ukraine. This is potentially a huge task ahead for Kell Brook who with only 30 professional fights under his belt takes on a tough Ukrainian with years of experience
Can he do it? Who knows. Either way please feel free to give your thoughts and vote on the poll as we follow 'Special K' in his bid for boxing glory
Regards
Steffan
After only 9 years as a professional, Kell Brook is one of Britain's top prospects. Wins against Matthew Hatton, Lovemore Ndou and tough American Carson Jones have proven that Brook is up there and able to compete with the best. Here in his biggest challenge yet, at only 27 years old, Brook will fight at the well known Motorpoint Arena in Sheffield, a place where he was highly succesful the last time he fought there stopping Argentinian Hector David Saldivia. His opponent, the man who single handedly destroyed Ricky Hattons career, Ukrainian fighter Vyacheslav Senchenko. Brook will have a tough time looking to seek revenge for his fellow Brit Hatton
Senchenko only has the one loss to hard hitting American Paul Malignaggi where he was stopped in the 9th round. This aside, Senchenko has impressive recent wins over fighters such as Marco Antonio Avendano, Charlie Navarro and Motoki Sasaki. Fighting away from home is also not a problem for Senchenko. Only 31 of his 35 fights have been inside his home country of the Ukraine. This is potentially a huge task ahead for Kell Brook who with only 30 professional fights under his belt takes on a tough Ukrainian with years of experience
Can he do it? Who knows. Either way please feel free to give your thoughts and vote on the poll as we follow 'Special K' in his bid for boxing glory
Regards
Steffan
Steffan- Posts : 7856
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Re: Kell Brook v Vyacheslav Senchenko
If Kell doesn't put on a good show can we finally put the nail in his coffin, please.
Strongback- Posts : 6529
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Re: Kell Brook v Vyacheslav Senchenko
Brook's been "on the verge of a world title" for about 3 years. I actually think that Senchenko is better than a lot give him credit for; I actually expect him to outwork, outhustle and outpoint Brook so we can finally see just how "ready" for world greatness he is.
Fair play to Brook for taking the fight; As a Brit I hope he wins. I just don't think he's good enough to win.
Fair play to Brook for taking the fight; As a Brit I hope he wins. I just don't think he's good enough to win.
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Re: Kell Brook v Vyacheslav Senchenko
People quite rightly pop at brook for fighting nobodies. Senchenko managed to win a world title and defend it without fighting anyone with a pulse. He got beaten up by malignaggi, the first time he fought someone at gatekeeper world level. At 36 he ain't improving and a win over the bloated corpse of hatton doesn't tell us anything.
I think brook is a decent fighter with serious stamina/conditioning issues. I think he wins this if he's in shape. If he loses, then those who say he's a waste of space are right.
I think brook is a decent fighter with serious stamina/conditioning issues. I think he wins this if he's in shape. If he loses, then those who say he's a waste of space are right.
milkyboy- Posts : 7762
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Re: Kell Brook v Vyacheslav Senchenko
Brooke should win easy! If he doesn't his career will be in the same state as Cleverlys.
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Re: Kell Brook v Vyacheslav Senchenko
Brook seems popular here.
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Re: Kell Brook v Vyacheslav Senchenko
Blame the management
DavidBlunkettsuppercut- Posts : 303
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Or Brook himself for being such a boring floating turd.
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Love the short tongue
DavidBlunkettsuppercut- Posts : 303
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Re: Kell Brook v Vyacheslav Senchenko
Khan beats both even if they became a tag team.
azania- Posts : 19471
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Re: Kell Brook v Vyacheslav Senchenko
I think your being silly there Azazania wrote:Khan beats both even if they became a tag team
When you look at the lack of quality of Khans last 10 opponents:
Julio Diaz. Carlos Molina. Danny Garcia. Lamont Peterson. Zab Judah. Paul McCloskey. Marcos Rene Maidana. Paul Malignaggi. Dmitriy Salita. Andriy Kotelnik
and the far superior quality of Brooks last 10 opponents:
Carson Jones. Hector David Saldivia. Matthew Hatton. Luis Galarza. Rafal Jackiewicz. Lovemore Ndou. Philip Kotey. Michael Jennings. Krzysztof Bienias. Michael Lomax
it is pretty clear on the very fact alone that Brook has remained undefeated that he would beat Khan no problem
I think Khan knows this and is trying to stay well clear of Brook as he knows Kell is a dangerous up and coming prospect and while 'Special K' is still a novice in professional boxing terms with only 30 fights behind him and 9 years on the circuit Khan wants nothing to do with him in the ring and would even take on Floyd Mayweather to avoid him
Steffan- Posts : 7856
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Re: Kell Brook v Vyacheslav Senchenko
You should have put on option of "nobody cares about it" on there as well mate.
Kell Brook is a man sausage and he is utterly over-rated.
Just looking at his last 10 opponents there goes to show exactly how Poopie he actually is.
Couldn't care less what he does and I hope he gets sparked.
he had his chances and never took them, has floated around the pro world for a few years now and has never once stepped up.
Saying that, he is fighting Ricky Hattons conqueror Senchenko so he must be p4p top 10.
Frak off kell brook and do us all a favour you waste of space.
Kell Brook is a man sausage and he is utterly over-rated.
Just looking at his last 10 opponents there goes to show exactly how Poopie he actually is.
Couldn't care less what he does and I hope he gets sparked.
he had his chances and never took them, has floated around the pro world for a few years now and has never once stepped up.
Saying that, he is fighting Ricky Hattons conqueror Senchenko so he must be p4p top 10.
Frak off kell brook and do us all a favour you waste of space.
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Re: Kell Brook v Vyacheslav Senchenko
brook also said recently he wanted to beat senchenko for hatton I bet he couldn't give a toss about hatton really
wheelchair1991- Posts : 2129
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Re: Kell Brook v Vyacheslav Senchenko
I think its a tough fight, He got out smarted against Paulie, but would probably do much better in a rematch..
But I think Brook is a good fighter and will out point him...
But I think Brook is a good fighter and will out point him...
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Re: Kell Brook v Vyacheslav Senchenko
Tunes, its about as tough as Alvarez's fight against Matthew Hatton ie Not tough at all and will make him look decent against a "name".
Senchenkos "name" being that he conquered the one and only Ricky Hatton and he was knocked out by Paulie Malignaggi
Senchenkos "name" being that he conquered the one and only Ricky Hatton and he was knocked out by Paulie Malignaggi
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Re: Kell Brook v Vyacheslav Senchenko
Was he knocked out?
Hammersmith harrier- Posts : 12060
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http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=121754&cat=boxer
Check it. L9 TKO Malignaggi
Check it. L9 TKO Malignaggi
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Re: Kell Brook v Vyacheslav Senchenko
I presume you've watched it then?
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yes mate, malignaggi outboxed him and beat his face in to submission. If you can get punched and marked THAT bad against Paulie, then brook should stop this guy within 4.
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It was hardly a knock out was it so stop proclaiming it as such, a cuts stoppage is very different.
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but it was still a knockout loss on his record, so ill proclaim it as such because its factually on his record whether it was stopped through repetitive punches in the grid, being knocked out on your feet, whether you quit on your stool or whether the ref jumps in...............
So yes Hammer, it was a knock out. A technical one.
So yes Hammer, it was a knock out. A technical one.
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I know little about Senchenko other than he beat a washed up Hatton and got his ass whipped by Malignaggi. Hes 6/1 with the bookies so they dont rate him obviously.
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Technically speaking a knock out can only be achieved by taking the full count of 10, a technical knock out is a stoppage very different and you only call it as such to take a potshot at Brook.
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Correct Catchweight, this is a guy who has been brought in based on his knockout victory over Ricky Hatton around 5 years past his prime and coming out of retirement.
Apparently that's justified
Apparently that's justified
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It's no different to Hatton taking on the shell of Castillo or any other boxer in the sports history.
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Not really hammer, if you read the rulebook, a Technical Knockout is exactly what it says on the tin.Hammersmith harrier wrote:Technically speaking a knock out can only be achieved by taking the full count of 10, a technical knock out is a stoppage very different and you only call it as such to take a potshot at Brook.
If I punch someone in the chin and it knocks them out COLD aka Lewis vs Rahman that's no less or no more of a knockout then me repeatedly punching someone accumulatively in the chin thus causing major damage rendering the fight to be stopped.
Also known as a technical KNOCKOUT.
The latter word being the main one.
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Either way Malignaggi STOPPED Senchenko he didn't knock him out, there is a major difference being getting knocked out to be stopped on a cut.
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Big difference being that he had come off the back of a knockout win over Diego Coralles and then went 2 fights unbeaten, beating Herman for the number 1 contender status at LWW.Hammersmith harrier wrote:It's no different to Hatton taking on the shell of Castillo or any other boxer in the sports history.
Has senchenko done that or is this the guy that has beaten nobody of note, got stopped by Paulie, and then knocked out Hatton?
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Either way, it was a technical knockout loss on his record. End of.Hammersmith harrier wrote:Either way Malignaggi STOPPED Senchenko he didn't knock him out, there is a major difference being getting knocked out to be stopped on a cut.
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Re: Kell Brook v Vyacheslav Senchenko
It's all relative, Castillo was a once world class lightweight moving up in weight to face the man in Hatton while Senchenko is a one time world champion facing a contender.
I'll point you in the direction of George Chuvalo, the man who is widely regarded to have never been knocked down or knocked out.
I'll point you in the direction of George Chuvalo, the man who is widely regarded to have never been knocked down or knocked out.
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Easy win for Brook as Senchenko is not very good at all and style wise won't trouble him either.
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Another way of looking at it is that Castillo came in overweight for the Corrales fight, beat a fighter in Rolando Reyes who most will have never heard of and was given a very favourable decision against Ngoudjo as the Hatton fight was already lined up. After the Hatton fight, his career pretty much took a nose dive, losing to Lujan two fights later before having to retire against the Alfonso Gomez of The Contender fame a few fights after that.mobilemaster8 wrote:Big difference being that he had come off the back of a knockout win over Diego Coralles and then went 2 fights unbeaten, beating Herman for the number 1 contender status at LWW.Hammersmith harrier wrote:It's no different to Hatton taking on the shell of Castillo or any other boxer in the sports history.
Has senchenko done that or is this the guy that has beaten nobody of note, got stopped by Paulie, and then knocked out Hatton?
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Stopped on cuts is not exactly being knocked out , Paulie is also a good fighter on his Day.. I regard Senchenkos a better fighter than M Hatton, who was not exactly bad all be it short of world level..mobilemaster8 wrote:Tunes, its about as tough as Alvarez's fight against Matthew Hatton ie Not tough at all and will make him look decent against a "name".
Senchenkos "name" being that he conquered the one and only Ricky Hatton and he was knocked out by Paulie Malignaggi
While he is not quite as much of a step up as someone like Alexander i still think its a little step up from his other opponents..
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I wonder will Brook cry like a baby if he gets beat. Give Hatton and Gazza a run for their money.
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Is he related to Brooks, Eubanks and Kahn??tunes666 wrote:Stopped on cuts is not exactly being knocked out , Paulie is also a good fighter on his Day.. I regard Senchenkos a better fighter than M Hatton, who was not exactly bad all be it short of world level..mobilemaster8 wrote:Tunes, its about as tough as Alvarez's fight against Matthew Hatton ie Not tough at all and will make him look decent against a "name".
Senchenkos "name" being that he conquered the one and only Ricky Hatton and he was knocked out by Paulie Malignaggi
While he is not quite as much of a step up as someone like Alexander i still think its a little step up from his other opponents..
Re: Kell Brook v Vyacheslav Senchenko
Seconding the above, the ngoudgo fight was a gift. Castillo was done before the hatton fight.6oldenbhoy wrote:Another way of looking at it is that Castillo came in overweight for the Corrales fight, beat a fighter in Rolando Reyes who most will have never heard of and was given a very favourable decision against Ngoudjo as the Hatton fight was already lined up. After the Hatton fight, his career pretty much took a nose dive, losing to Lujan two fights later before having to retire against the Alfonso Gomez of The Contender fame a few fights after that.mobilemaster8 wrote:Big difference being that he had come off the back of a knockout win over Diego Coralles and then went 2 fights unbeaten, beating Herman for the number 1 contender status at LWW.Hammersmith harrier wrote:It's no different to Hatton taking on the shell of Castillo or any other boxer in the sports history.
Has senchenko done that or is this the guy that has beaten nobody of note, got stopped by Paulie, and then knocked out Hatton?
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Im getting excited about this one now. Brook is gonna do it
Great prospect and great attitude to succeed
This boy Brook is gonna go far I think
Great prospect and great attitude to succeed
This boy Brook is gonna go far I think
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Love the preview Steffan, I hope you aren't busy as Sky will be calling you soon to start writing their intro's for them.
Actually think it's a decent fight for Brook and one that, due to the Hatton connection, will hopefully win him a few more fans whilst being a good filler fight.
Actually think it's a decent fight for Brook and one that, due to the Hatton connection, will hopefully win him a few more fans whilst being a good filler fight.
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I think its retarded that Brook refers to Senchenko as "a kid". Hes about a decade older than Brook.
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I also think the same catch weight.
I also think Brook is a retarded cretin type slime ball.
I also think Brook is a retarded cretin type slime ball.
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Would much rather you just say how you feel about the guy to be honest...mobilemaster8 wrote:I also think Brook is a retarded cretin type slime ball.
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Re: Kell Brook v Vyacheslav Senchenko
Dunno why everyone gives Brook a hard time. He's a decent enough fighter and only lacks (in no particular order) focus, charisma and a title to tempt top name fighters into the ring.
He was unlucky to be injured just before the Alexander fight and then unlucky (I see a pattern emerging) to be caught up in the Khan/Alexander/Mayweather debacle.
Hearn's done well to keep a man with such a crushing lack of personality in the public eye and could actually spin this (if Brook wins) as "the man (Brook) who beat the man (Senchenko) who beat the man (Hatton) who was beaten by the man (Manny) who doesn't want to fight the man (Mayweather)"
All in all, I think some posters are being unnecessarily mean to Kell Brook and you should think long and hard about why you want a British fighter to fail.
He was unlucky to be injured just before the Alexander fight and then unlucky (I see a pattern emerging) to be caught up in the Khan/Alexander/Mayweather debacle.
Hearn's done well to keep a man with such a crushing lack of personality in the public eye and could actually spin this (if Brook wins) as "the man (Brook) who beat the man (Senchenko) who beat the man (Hatton) who was beaten by the man (Manny) who doesn't want to fight the man (Mayweather)"
All in all, I think some posters are being unnecessarily mean to Kell Brook and you should think long and hard about why you want a British fighter to fail.
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I can see another robbery here for an non UK fighter, with a points win for Brook. If so, we will have to have a long hard look at ourselves and consider that we are the new Germany!!
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With our poor attitude towards other countries and their obvious inferiority, I think we may actually be the "old" Germany.bhb001 wrote:I can see another robbery here for an non UK fighter, with a points win for Brook. If so, we will have to have a long hard look at ourselves and consider that we are the new Germany!!
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Brook pts, legit.
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Seriously, why has this popped up again?
Nobody cares about this bum (sorry reeborn/hammer).
End of.
Nobody cares about this bum (sorry reeborn/hammer).
End of.
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yeah that vitali lad is chinny because he got beat by lewis on cutsmobilemaster8 wrote:yes mate, malignaggi outboxed him and beat his face in to submission. If you can get punched and marked THAT bad against Paulie, then brook should stop this guy within 4.
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Re: Kell Brook v Vyacheslav Senchenko
Eh?
Im implying that Paulie hits like a feather and rarely damages anybody when he fights them. Ever.
he could hardly mark Hatton who cut like a fish in your local market.
Lewis hit very hard and caught him flush with 210+ lbs of weight behind it pal.
Im implying that Paulie hits like a feather and rarely damages anybody when he fights them. Ever.
he could hardly mark Hatton who cut like a fish in your local market.
Lewis hit very hard and caught him flush with 210+ lbs of weight behind it pal.
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bit of a simplistic approach to say because a fighter was stopped on cuts once brook should blow him out in four, paulie is quicker and better technically than brook so dont see how brook should land as easilymobilemaster8 wrote:Eh?
Im implying that Paulie hits like a feather and rarely damages anybody when he fights them. Ever.
he could hardly mark Hatton who cut like a fish in your local market.
Lewis hit very hard and caught him flush with 210+ lbs of weight behind it pal.
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Cuts are just luck of the draw really, Jim Watt used to cut up easily but had one hell of a chin and the great Napoles used to cut easily too. Cuts aren't as a result of power punching.
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