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Kell Brook v Vyacheslav Senchenko

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Post by Steffan Fri 04 Oct 2013, 7:57 pm

Suprised this huge clash is going under the radar so thought I would write a little review:

After only 9 years as a professional, Kell Brook is one of Britain's top prospects. Wins against Matthew Hatton, Lovemore Ndou and tough American Carson Jones have proven that Brook is up there and able to compete with the best. Here in his biggest challenge yet, at only 27 years old, Brook will fight at the well known Motorpoint Arena in Sheffield, a place where he was highly succesful the last time he fought there stopping Argentinian Hector David Saldivia. His opponent, the man who single handedly destroyed Ricky Hattons career, Ukrainian fighter Vyacheslav Senchenko. Brook will have a tough time looking to seek revenge for his fellow Brit Hatton

Senchenko only has the one loss to hard hitting American Paul Malignaggi where he was stopped in the 9th round. This aside, Senchenko has impressive recent wins over fighters such as Marco Antonio Avendano, Charlie Navarro and Motoki Sasaki. Fighting away from home is also not a problem for Senchenko. Only 31 of his 35 fights have been inside his home country of the Ukraine. This is potentially a huge task ahead for Kell Brook who with only 30 professional fights under his belt takes on a tough Ukrainian with years of experience

Can he do it? Who knows. Either way please feel free to give your thoughts and vote on the poll as we follow 'Special K' in his bid for boxing glory


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Post by Strongback Fri 04 Oct 2013, 8:16 pm

If Kell doesn't put on a good show can we finally put the nail in his coffin, please.

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Post by Mr Bounce Fri 04 Oct 2013, 8:27 pm

Brook's been "on the verge of a world title" for about 3 years. I actually think that Senchenko is better than a lot give him credit for; I actually expect him to outwork, outhustle and outpoint Brook so we can finally see just how "ready" for world greatness he is.

Fair play to Brook for taking the fight; As a Brit I hope he wins. I just don't think he's good enough to win.

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Post by milkyboy Fri 04 Oct 2013, 9:28 pm

People quite rightly pop at brook for fighting nobodies. Senchenko managed to win a world title and defend it without fighting anyone with a pulse. He got beaten up by malignaggi, the first time he fought someone at gatekeeper world level. At 36 he ain't improving and a win over the bloated corpse of hatton doesn't tell us anything.

I think brook is a decent fighter with serious stamina/conditioning issues. I think he wins this if he's in shape. If he loses, then those who say he's a waste of space are right.

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Post by DavidBlunkettsuppercut Fri 04 Oct 2013, 10:03 pm

Brooke should win easy! If he doesn't his career will be in the same state as Cleverlys.
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Post by azania Fri 04 Oct 2013, 10:59 pm

Brook seems popular here.

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Post by DavidBlunkettsuppercut Fri 04 Oct 2013, 11:05 pm

Blame the management
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Post by azania Fri 04 Oct 2013, 11:18 pm

Or Brook himself for being such a boring floating turd.

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Post by DavidBlunkettsuppercut Fri 04 Oct 2013, 11:47 pm

Love the short tongue
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Post by azania Sat 05 Oct 2013, 12:02 am

Khan beats both even if they became a tag team.

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Post by Steffan Sat 05 Oct 2013, 1:23 am

azania wrote:Khan beats both even if they became a tag team
I think your being silly there Az

When you look at the lack of quality of Khans last 10 opponents:

Julio Diaz. Carlos Molina. Danny Garcia. Lamont Peterson. Zab Judah. Paul McCloskey. Marcos Rene Maidana. Paul Malignaggi. Dmitriy Salita. Andriy Kotelnik

and the far superior quality of Brooks last 10 opponents:

Carson Jones. Hector David Saldivia. Matthew Hatton. Luis Galarza. Rafal Jackiewicz. Lovemore Ndou. Philip Kotey. Michael Jennings. Krzysztof Bienias. Michael Lomax

it is pretty clear on the very fact alone that Brook has remained undefeated that he would beat Khan no problem thumbsup

I think Khan knows this and is trying to stay well clear of Brook as he knows Kell is a dangerous up and coming prospect and while 'Special K' is still a novice in professional boxing terms with only 30 fights behind him and 9 years on the circuit Khan wants nothing to do with him in the ring and would even take on Floyd Mayweather to avoid him

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat 05 Oct 2013, 9:19 am

You should have put on option of "nobody cares about it" on there as well mate.

Kell Brook is a man sausage and he is utterly over-rated.

Just looking at his last 10 opponents there goes to show exactly how Poopie he actually is.

Couldn't care less what he does and I hope he gets sparked.

he had his chances and never took them, has floated around the pro world for a few years now and has never once stepped up.

Saying that, he is fighting Ricky Hattons conqueror Senchenko so he must be p4p top 10.

Frak off kell brook and do us all a favour you waste of space.

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Post by wheelchair1991 Sat 05 Oct 2013, 9:45 am

brook also said recently he wanted to beat senchenko for hatton I bet he couldn't give a toss about hatton really

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Post by tunes666 Sat 05 Oct 2013, 9:51 am

I think its a tough fight, He got out smarted against Paulie, but would probably do much better in a rematch..

But I think Brook is a good fighter and will out point him...

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat 05 Oct 2013, 11:41 am

Tunes, its about as tough as Alvarez's fight against Matthew Hatton ie Not tough at all and will make him look decent against a "name".

Senchenkos "name" being that he conquered the one and only Ricky Hatton and he was knocked out by Paulie Malignaggi Laugh Laugh 

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 05 Oct 2013, 11:53 am

Was he knocked out?

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat 05 Oct 2013, 11:55 am

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=121754&cat=boxer

Check it. L9 TKO Malignaggi

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 05 Oct 2013, 11:59 am

I presume you've watched it then?

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat 05 Oct 2013, 12:14 pm

yes mate, malignaggi outboxed him and beat his face in to submission. If you can get punched and marked THAT bad against Paulie, then brook should stop this guy within 4.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 05 Oct 2013, 12:16 pm

It was hardly a knock out was it so stop proclaiming it as such, a cuts stoppage is very different.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat 05 Oct 2013, 12:19 pm

but it was still a knockout loss on his record, so ill proclaim it as such because its factually on his record whether it was stopped through repetitive punches in the grid, being knocked out on your feet, whether you quit on your stool or whether the ref jumps in...............

So yes Hammer, it was a knock out. A technical one.

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Post by catchweight Sat 05 Oct 2013, 12:20 pm

I know little about Senchenko other than he beat a washed up Hatton and got his ass whipped by Malignaggi. Hes 6/1 with the bookies so they dont rate him obviously.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 05 Oct 2013, 12:22 pm

Technically speaking a knock out can only be achieved by taking the full count of 10, a technical knock out is a stoppage very different and you only call it as such to take a potshot at Brook.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat 05 Oct 2013, 12:22 pm

Correct Catchweight, this is a guy who has been brought in based on his knockout victory over Ricky Hatton around 5 years past his prime and coming out of retirement.

Apparently that's justified

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 05 Oct 2013, 12:24 pm

It's no different to Hatton taking on the shell of Castillo or any other boxer in the sports history.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat 05 Oct 2013, 12:25 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Technically speaking a knock out can only be achieved by taking the full count of 10, a technical knock out is a stoppage very different and you only call it as such to take a potshot at Brook.
Not really hammer, if you read the rulebook, a Technical Knockout is exactly what it says on the tin.

If I punch someone in the chin and it knocks them out COLD aka Lewis vs Rahman that's no less or no more of a knockout then me repeatedly punching someone accumulatively in the chin thus causing major damage rendering the fight to be stopped.

Also known as a technical KNOCKOUT.

The latter word being the main one.


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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 05 Oct 2013, 12:28 pm

Either way Malignaggi STOPPED Senchenko he didn't knock him out, there is a major difference being getting knocked out to be stopped on a cut.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat 05 Oct 2013, 12:29 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:It's no different to Hatton taking on the shell of Castillo or any other boxer in the sports history.
Big difference being that he had come off the back of a knockout win over Diego Coralles and then went 2 fights unbeaten, beating Herman for the number 1 contender status at LWW.

Has senchenko done that or is this the guy that has beaten nobody of note, got stopped by Paulie, and then knocked out Hatton?

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat 05 Oct 2013, 12:30 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Either way Malignaggi STOPPED Senchenko he didn't knock him out, there is a major difference being getting knocked out to be stopped on a cut.
Either way, it was a technical knockout loss on his record. End of.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 05 Oct 2013, 12:34 pm

It's all relative, Castillo was a once world class lightweight moving up in weight to face the man in Hatton while Senchenko is a one time world champion facing a contender.

I'll point you in the direction of George Chuvalo, the man who is widely regarded to have never been knocked down or knocked out.

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Post by bellchees Sat 05 Oct 2013, 12:43 pm

Easy win for Brook as Senchenko is not very good at all and style wise won't trouble him either.

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Post by 6oldenbhoy Sat 05 Oct 2013, 12:50 pm

mobilemaster8 wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:It's no different to Hatton taking on the shell of Castillo or any other boxer in the sports history.
Big difference being that he had come off the back of a knockout win over Diego Coralles and then went 2 fights unbeaten, beating Herman for the number 1 contender status at LWW.

Has senchenko done that or is this the guy that has beaten nobody of note, got stopped by Paulie, and then knocked out Hatton?
Another way of looking at it is that Castillo came in overweight for the Corrales fight, beat a fighter in Rolando Reyes who most will have never heard of and was given a very favourable decision against Ngoudjo as the Hatton fight was already lined up. After the Hatton fight, his career pretty much took a nose dive, losing to Lujan two fights later before having to retire against the Alfonso Gomez of The Contender fame a few fights after that.

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Post by tunes666 Sat 05 Oct 2013, 3:00 pm

mobilemaster8 wrote:Tunes, its about as tough as Alvarez's fight against Matthew Hatton ie Not tough at all and will make him look decent against a "name".

Senchenkos "name" being that he conquered the one and only Ricky Hatton and he was knocked out by Paulie Malignaggi Laugh Laugh 
Stopped on cuts is not exactly being knocked out Smile , Paulie is also a good fighter on his Day.. I regard Senchenkos a better fighter than M Hatton, who was not exactly bad all be it short of world level..

While he is not quite as much of a step up as someone like Alexander i still think its a little step up from his other opponents..

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Sun 06 Oct 2013, 11:14 am

I wonder will Brook cry like a baby if he gets beat. Give Hatton and Gazza a run for their money.
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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Sun 06 Oct 2013, 11:15 am

tunes666 wrote:
mobilemaster8 wrote:Tunes, its about as tough as Alvarez's fight against Matthew Hatton ie Not tough at all and will make him look decent against a "name".

Senchenkos "name" being that he conquered the one and only Ricky Hatton and he was knocked out by Paulie Malignaggi Laugh Laugh 
Stopped on cuts is not exactly being knocked out Smile, Paulie is also a good fighter on his Day.. I regard Senchenkos a better fighter than M Hatton, who was not exactly bad all be it short of world level..  

While he is not quite as much of a step up as someone like Alexander i still think its a little step up from his other opponents..  
Is he related to Brooks, Eubanks and Kahn??
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Post by milkyboy Sun 06 Oct 2013, 11:51 am

6oldenbhoy wrote:
mobilemaster8 wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:It's no different to Hatton taking on the shell of Castillo or any other boxer in the sports history.
Big difference being that he had come off the back of a knockout win over Diego Coralles and then went 2 fights unbeaten, beating Herman for the number 1 contender status at LWW.

Has senchenko done that or is this the guy that has beaten nobody of note, got stopped by Paulie, and then knocked out Hatton?
Another way of looking at it is that Castillo came in overweight for the Corrales fight, beat a fighter in Rolando Reyes who most will have never heard of and was given a very favourable decision against Ngoudjo as the Hatton fight was already lined up. After the Hatton fight, his career pretty much took a nose dive, losing to Lujan two fights later before having to retire against the Alfonso Gomez of The Contender fame a few fights after that.
Seconding the above, the ngoudgo fight was a gift. Castillo was done before the hatton fight.

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Post by Steffan Thu 17 Oct 2013, 10:14 pm

Im getting excited about this one now. Brook is gonna do it

Great prospect and great attitude to succeed

This boy Brook is gonna go far I think

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Post by huw Fri 18 Oct 2013, 10:28 am

Love the preview Steffan, I hope you aren't busy as Sky will be calling you soon to start writing their intro's for them.

Actually think it's a decent fight for Brook and one that, due to the Hatton connection, will hopefully win him a few more fans whilst being a good filler fight.

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Post by catchweight Fri 18 Oct 2013, 11:53 am

I think its retarded that Brook refers to Senchenko as "a kid". Hes about a decade older than Brook.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Fri 18 Oct 2013, 1:33 pm

I also think the same catch weight.

I also think Brook is a retarded cretin type slime ball.

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Post by Steffan Mon 21 Oct 2013, 11:17 am

mobilemaster8 wrote:I also think Brook is a retarded cretin type slime ball.
Would much rather you just say how you feel about the guy to be honest...

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Post by Guest Mon 21 Oct 2013, 11:29 am

Dunno why everyone gives Brook a hard time. He's a decent enough fighter and only lacks (in no particular order) focus, charisma and a title to tempt top name fighters into the ring.

He was unlucky to be injured just before the Alexander fight and then unlucky (I see a pattern emerging) to be caught up in the Khan/Alexander/Mayweather debacle.

Hearn's done well to keep a man with such a crushing lack of personality in the public eye and could actually spin this (if Brook wins) as "the man (Brook) who beat the man (Senchenko) who beat the man (Hatton) who was beaten by the man (Manny) who doesn't want to fight the man (Mayweather)"

All in all, I think some posters are being unnecessarily mean to Kell Brook and you should think long and hard about why you want a British fighter to fail.

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Post by bhb001 Mon 21 Oct 2013, 11:32 am

I can see another robbery here for an non UK fighter, with a points win for Brook. If so, we will have to have a long hard look at ourselves and consider that we are the new Germany!!

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Post by Guest Mon 21 Oct 2013, 11:37 am

bhb001 wrote:I can see another robbery here for an non UK fighter, with a points win for Brook. If so, we will have to have a long hard look at ourselves and consider that we are the new Germany!!
With our poor attitude towards other countries and their obvious inferiority, I think we may actually be the "old" Germany.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Wed 23 Oct 2013, 6:53 pm

Brook pts, legit.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Wed 23 Oct 2013, 7:21 pm

Seriously, why has this popped up again?

Nobody cares about this bum (sorry reeborn/hammer).

End of.

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Post by compelling and rich Wed 23 Oct 2013, 7:28 pm

mobilemaster8 wrote:yes mate, malignaggi outboxed him and beat his face in to submission. If you can get punched and marked THAT bad against Paulie, then brook should stop this guy within 4.
yeah that vitali lad is chinny because he got beat by lewis on cuts Headscratch Headscratch 

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Post by mobilemaster8 Wed 23 Oct 2013, 7:47 pm

Eh?

Im implying that Paulie hits like a feather and rarely damages anybody when he fights them. Ever.

he could hardly mark Hatton who cut like a fish in your local market.

Lewis hit very hard and caught him flush with 210+ lbs of weight behind it pal.

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Post by compelling and rich Wed 23 Oct 2013, 7:49 pm

mobilemaster8 wrote:Eh?

Im implying that Paulie hits like a feather and rarely damages anybody when he fights them. Ever.

he could hardly mark Hatton who cut like a fish in your local market.

Lewis hit very hard and caught him flush with 210+ lbs of weight behind it pal.
bit of a simplistic approach to say because a fighter was stopped on cuts once brook should blow him out in four, paulie is quicker and better technically than brook so dont see how brook should land as easily

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Wed 23 Oct 2013, 7:55 pm

Cuts are just luck of the draw really, Jim Watt used to cut up easily but had one hell of a chin and the great Napoles used to cut easily too. Cuts aren't as a result of power punching.

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