Saints vs The Ospreys -HEC Round 2

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Kick-off: 12:45 local (11:45 GMT)
Venue: Franklin's Gardens
Referee: Alain Rolland (Ireland)
Assistant referees: Stuart Gaffikin (Ireland), Jonathan Peak (Ireland)
Television match official: Simon McDowell (Ireland)


Northampton: Foden; Elliott, Pisi, Luther Burrell, North; Myler, Dickson; Waller, Hartley (capt), Ma'afu, Lawes, Day, Wood, Dowson, Manoa.

Replacements: Haywood, Waller, Denman, Van Velze, Clark, Fotuali'i, Wilson, Pisi.

Ospreys: Fussell; Hassler, Bishop, Beck, Walker; Biggar, Habberfield; Bevington, Hibbard, Jones, AW Jones (capt), King, R Jones, Tipuric, Bearman.

Replacements: Baldwin, D Jones, Jarvis, Ardron, Allen, Lewis, Tebaldi, Morgan.




 

I wonder where all these Northampton coat-tailer's will go after they're dumped out of Europe again? Another 50 point drubbing from an Irish team coming sooner or later I reckon .

much better from the O's, and they're right back in this.

ChequeredJersey wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:

ChequeredJersey wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:

ChequeredJersey wrote:Actually, I shouldn't complain because I know how much I'm looking forward to hearing about Clancy's refereeing performance later. Not that it would make much difference

Is Clancy refereeing the Quins match?

Regrettably so

You have our sincerest condolences, the man does for rugby what Genghis Khan did for 12th century international relations.

Thanks. Hopefully we can use his whistleblwoing propensity to win some penalties and play Clermont like Ulster played Montpellier (not a Quins style, but seems sensible in this case) but that would require Nev, Danny, BB and Brown to bring their kicking A game. Otherwise we'll have to just go for all out attack, hope it clicks and the pack put in the shift of their lives and Clermont get blown away and drop their chins while we get our tails up. If we win, it may be our best result ever

There are enough lads in that teams core to know how to beat Toulouse. They might inspire Quins. I hope so anyway...! Young Botica is a talented lad I am keen to watch...

Jeff Hassler seems a good ittle signing by the O's.

Says the coat tail master!

That's the spirit lads... Get in there and play some rugby. Hopefully whatever was said at half time will change the game now.

Ospreys back in it, only 4 points the difference.

LeinsterFan4life wrote:Jeff Hassler seems a good ittle signing by the O's.

Yeh, had a poor game against Ulster a couple of weeks back but has looked good aside from that.

LeinsterFan4life wrote:Jeff Hassler seems a good ittle signing by the O's.

Yes I agree, he seems to have settled down well and has played some very good rugby so far. Not a finished article in the slightest but has taken the absence of Hanno Dirksen as a great opportunity to creat a name for himself.

maestegmafia wrote:

ChequeredJersey wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:

ChequeredJersey wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:

ChequeredJersey wrote:Actually, I shouldn't complain because I know how much I'm looking forward to hearing about Clancy's refereeing performance later. Not that it would make much difference

Is Clancy refereeing the Quins match?

Regrettably so

You have our sincerest condolences, the man does for rugby what Genghis Khan did for 12th century international relations.

Thanks. Hopefully we can use his whistleblwoing propensity to win some penalties and play Clermont like Ulster played Montpellier (not a Quins style, but seems sensible in this case) but that would require Nev, Danny, BB and Brown to bring their kicking A game. Otherwise we'll have to just go for all out attack, hope it clicks and the pack put in the shift of their lives and Clermont get blown away and drop their chins while we get our tails up. If we win, it may be our best result ever

There are enough lads in that teams core to know how to beat Toulouse. They might inspire Quins. I hope so anyway...! Young Botica is a talented lad I am keen to watch...

And Stade when they were good, our players know how to beat the French in France (Biarritz too, though they were Poopie). Our players can do it, but too many are out of position, with inexperience on the bench and in key areas and our form is poor because we just aren't clicking and executing. A good performance even in loss here (it is ASM and they don't lose at home) would hopefully kick start our season

Tell you something else....Fussell has had a pretty decent game today. Not sure I've seen him make as positive a contribution before. Ospreys problems were clearly in the backline, think maybe the coaches told them they just had to step up.

Great tackle by Hassler, stopped North in his tracks.

Bit of an illegal challenge there?

If you win the contacts you will get the run of the decisions. Ospreys complaining about off the ball stuff is a bit rich considering the antics of Tipuric thus far.

Vince agree on that. Adam Jones is no longer getting away with a big shunt, bind on the arm and drag the opposition loosehead in and down.

Artful_Dodger wrote:

LeinsterFan4life wrote:Jeff Hassler seems a good ittle signing by the O's.

Yeh, had a poor game against Ulster a couple of weeks back but has looked good aside from that.

That was his only poor game so far.

The Saint wrote:

Artful_Dodger wrote:

LeinsterFan4life wrote:Jeff Hassler seems a good ittle signing by the O's.

Yeh, had a poor game against Ulster a couple of weeks back but has looked good aside from that.

That was his only poor game so far.

Yeah, been impressed with Hassler so far this season

This was really a game for Tito.

We've serious issues with back play...

Well done Dan Biggar

Awful from Habberfield

Jabber field shows his lack of experience & North shows he has a lot more pace than Hassler

When did they show that?

*My sky app is a lot slower it seems.

That stupid pass from Habberfield could have cost the O's their chance

Saints most overrated player Clarke is on.

brutal power from the Saints forwards, and nicely finished off.

Take Habberfield off

Why is he shouting use it at the scrum all of the time? I've never heard any ref do this in all my time watching or playing. Have i missed a new rule? Can someone help?

They all look clueless to me, not just Hab.

Coleman wrote:Why is he shouting use it at the scrum all of the time? I've never heard any ref do this in all my time watching or playing. Have i missed a new rule? Can someone help?

Yes it wasn't even out of the scrum either. Not that it needed to be.

BigTrevsbigmac wrote:

Coleman wrote:Why is he shouting use it at the scrum all of the time? I've never heard any ref do this in all my time watching or playing. Have i missed a new rule? Can someone help?

Yes it wasn't even out of the scrum either. Not that it needed to be.

But Trev he's been doing it to the Spreys all game. Why is it only now that you notice? <coat-tail>

The Saint wrote:

BigTrevsbigmac wrote:

Coleman wrote:Why is he shouting use it at the scrum all of the time? I've never heard any ref do this in all my time watching or playing. Have i missed a new rule? Can someone help?

Yes it wasn't even out of the scrum either. Not that it needed to be.

But Trev he's been doing it to the Spreys all game. Why is it only now that you notice? <coat-tail>

I noticed it before but it doesn't count if its against he Sprays does it?

I don't understand this coat tail comment? Why is it a bad thing for an Englishman to support an English Club vs a foreign Club in this competition?

LOL i can't stop laughing, Saints players all over the floor playing the ball knocking on ref cries play on,Hibbard does it whistle penalty.

Mad for Chelsea wrote:brutal power from the Saints forwards, and nicely finished off.

Are you stuart barnes? all your "buzz" words, Saints put a blocking wall in front of the ball carrier hardly brutal power

AWJ looks out on his feet. Like a player who gives 100% unfortunately he is few & far between amongst his team.

ChequeredJersey wrote:I don't understand this coat tail comment? Why is it a bad thing for an Englishman to support an English Club vs a foreign Club in this competition?

Just ignore it CJ.

Breadvan is an Englishman and a seaon ticket holding supporter of the ospreys. I am a Welshman and a season ticket holder at Bath RFC.

Ospreys need to learn how to speed up their phases but TBH Rolland has been urine poor letting Saints handle on the floor the whole game

As an England fan, loving the edge that Wood and Lawes are showing today

ChequeredJersey wrote:I don't understand this coat tail comment? Why is it a bad thing for an Englishman to support an English Club vs a foreign Club in this competition?

It's a trev thing. Yesterday Cardiff had another Irish ref who was incredibly poor and did everything he could to assist a poorly-performing Toulon. Trev was in the midst of it cheering on Toulon and applauding every single incorrect decision against Cardiff and probably dry humped the screen every time Johnny was in shot. He's doing the same again today.

The word edge puts me on edge. It generally means "things that another referee would penalise or card you for". Anyway, time to row,

Introductory sport psychology: only attribute losses and/or poor performance to things within your control (attribution theory). If you blame the ref for the loss or the poor performance, then how can you do anything about it in training? You can't plan for or train for those things out of your control. Therefore, rather than blaming the ref for losing, fans/coaches/players should look internally to the factors that meant they did not score more points than the opposition, factors that meant they didn't stop the opposition scoring more points than them, how to improve the scrum, improving defence, etc. That's more likely to improve performance more in the long term than blaming the ref.

Ref blamers take note!

Be great to see some magic from Matthew Morgan right now...

The Saint wrote:

ChequeredJersey wrote:I don't understand this coat tail comment? Why is it a bad thing for an Englishman to support an English Club vs a foreign Club in this competition?

It's a trev thing. Yesterday Cardiff had another Irish ref who was incredibly poor and did everything he could to assist a poorly-performing Toulon. Trev was in the midst of it cheering on Toulon and applauding every single incorrect decision against Cardiff and probably dry humped the screen every time Johnny was in shot. He's doing the same again today.

I am a Wasps supporter but also follow all English clubs against foreign ones as Chequered says. I dare say I am not alone in that respect.
What I don't do is get abusive. I give the occasional dig but I call it banter there is a big difference.

ChequeredJersey wrote:The word edge puts me on edge. It generally means "things that another referee would penalise or card you for". Anyway, time to row,

Possibly, but we need that physical no nonsense stuff from our forwards, showing we can't be bullied so I'm all for it

toml wrote:Ospreys need to learn how to speed up their phases but TBH Rolland has been urine poor letting Saints handle on the floor the whole game

Ospreys need to keep the ball live to avoid Rollands awful breakdown interpretations.

Griff wrote:

Ref blamers take note!

Who's blamed the ref? Answers on a postcard if you can find any evidence for me blaming the ref. I've commented on Rolland's performance along with that of both teams.

Ospreys are out of Europe. I blame the Ospreys.

Pisi offside WTF???????

BigTrevsbigmac wrote:

The Saint wrote:

ChequeredJersey wrote:I don't understand this coat tail comment? Why is it a bad thing for an Englishman to support an English Club vs a foreign Club in this competition?

It's a trev thing. Yesterday Cardiff had another Irish ref who was incredibly poor and did everything he could to assist a poorly-performing Toulon. Trev was in the midst of it cheering on Toulon and applauding every single incorrect decision against Cardiff and probably dry humped the screen every time Johnny was in shot. He's doing the same again today.

I am a Wasps supporter but also follow all English clubs against foreign ones as Chequered says. I dare say I am not alone in that respect.
What I don't do is get abusive. I give the occasional dig but I call it banter there is a big difference.

Supporting teams from your nation is fine. You however, coat-tail anything playing the Welsh. You are not the only guilty one there though.

Tackler not releasing, players coming from offside...off side
Rolland is blind to saints infringments

BigTrevsbigmac wrote:

The Saint wrote:

ChequeredJersey wrote:I don't understand this coat tail comment? Why is it a bad thing for an Englishman to support an English Club vs a foreign Club in this competition?

It's a trev thing. Yesterday Cardiff had another Irish ref who was incredibly poor and did everything he could to assist a poorly-performing Toulon. Trev was in the midst of it cheering on Toulon and applauding every single incorrect decision against Cardiff and probably dry humped the screen every time Johnny was in shot. He's doing the same again today.

I am a Wasps supporter but also follow all English clubs against foreign ones as Chequered says. I dare say I am not alone in that respect.
What I don't do is get abusive. I give the occasional dig but I call it banter there is a big difference.

Your digs are digs no matter what you personally call them. How about you clear off and let us talk rugby..?

Feel really sorry for AWJ and Biggar, they have given everything