Paris Masters - Day 6 (Updated) - Mens Singles

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Semifinal Day

COURT CENTRAL Start 11:45 am

Max Mirnyi (BLR)
Horia Tecau (ROU)
l
[2] Alexander Peya (AUT)
Bruno Soares (BRA) 6-3, 2-6, 3-10

Not Before 2:30 pm

[5] Roger Federer (SUI) l [2] Novak Djokovic (SRB) 6-4, 3-6, 2-6

Not Before 5:00 pm

Rafael Nadal (ESP)  l David Ferrer (ESP) 3-6, 5-7

[1] Bob Bryan (USA)
Mike Bryan (USA)
d
Ivan Dodig (CRO) OR Rohan Bopanna (IND)
Marcelo Melo (BRA) OR Edouard Roger-Vasselin (FRA) 6-4, 7-5


Day 5

COURT CENTRAL Start 2:00 pm

[7] Stanislas Wawrinka (SUI) l [2] Novak Djokovic (SRB) 1-6, 4-6

[5] Roger Federer (SUI) d [4] Juan Martin Del Potro (ARG) 6-3, 4-6, 6-3

Not Before 7:30 pm

Rafael Nadal (ESP) d Richard Gasquet (FRA) 6-4, 6-1

Not Before 8:30 pm

[3] David Ferrer (ESP) d Tomas Berdych (CZE) 4-6, 7-5, 6-3

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Day 4

COURT CENTRAL Start 10:30 am

[7] Stanislas Wawrinka (SUI) d [12] Nicolas Almagro (ESP) 6-3, 6-2

[3] David Ferrer (ESP) d [15] Gilles Simon (FRA) 6-2, 6-3

[13] John Isner (USA) v [2] Novak Djokovic (SRB) - 7-6(5), 1-6, 2-6

[5] Roger Federer (SUI) v Philipp Kohlschreiber (GER)  6-3, 6-4

Not Before 7:30 pm

[9] Richard Gasquet (FRA) d Kei Nishikori (JPN) 6-3, 6-2

Not Before 8:30 pm

[1] Rafael Nadal (ESP) d [14] Jerzy Janowicz (POL)  7-5, 6-4

COURT 1 Not Before 2:30 pm

Grigor Dimitrov (BUL) v [4] Juan Martin Del Potro (ARG)  6-3, 3-6, 4-6

Not Before 4:30 pm

[10] Milos Raonic (CAN) l [6] Tomas Berdych (CZE) (13)6-7, 4-6

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Day 3

COURT CENTRAL Start 10:30 am

[3] David Ferrer (ESP) d Lukas Rosol (CZE) 6-0, 2-6, 6-3

[WC] Nicolas Mahut (FRA) l [15] Gilles Simon (FRA) 4-6, 7-6(5), (3)6-7

Marin Cilic (CRO) l [4] Juan Martin Del Potro (ARG) 4-6, (3)6-7

[1] Rafael Nadal (ESP) d Marcel Granollers (ESP)  7-5, 7-5

Not Before 7:30 pm

[5] Roger Federer (SUI) d Kevin Anderson (RSA)  6-4, 6-4

Not Before 8:30 pm

[10] Milos Raonic (CAN) v [Q] Robin Haase (NED) - In Progress

COURT 1 Start 11:00 am

[13] John Isner (USA) d [Q] Michal Przysiezny (POL) 7-6(3), 4-6, 6-3

Ivan Dodig (CRO) l [12] Nicolas Almagro (ESP) 4-6, 3-6

[7] Stanislas Wawrinka (SUI) d Feliciano Lopez (ESP)  6-3, 3-6, 6-3

[16] Fabio Fognini (ITA) l Grigor Dimitrov (BUL) 3-6, 7-5, 2-6

Philipp Kohlschreiber (GER) v [11] Tommy Haas (GER) - In Progress - 6-2, 6-2

[LL] Pablo Andujar (ESP) l [6] Tomas Berdych (CZE) 2-6, 5-7


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Day 2
COURT CENTRAL Start 11:00 am

[WC] Michael Llodra (FRA) l Grigor Dimitrov (BUL) 7-6(5), 3-6, 3-6

[LL] Pablo Andujar (ESP) d Vasek Pospisil (CAN)  6-2, 2-6, 6-4

[9] Richard Gasquet (FRA) d Fernando Verdasco (ESP)  7-5, (6)6-7, 6-3

Not Before 7:30 pm

Kei Nishikori (JPN) d [8] Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (FRA) 1-6, 7-6(4), 7-6(7)

Not Before 8:30 pm

[Q] Pierre-Hugues Herbert (FRA) l [2] Novak Djokovic (SRB) (3) 6-7, 3-6

COURT 1 Start 11:00 am

[Q] Michal Przysiezny (POL) d Jarkko Nieminen (FIN) 6-3, 7-6(6)

[WC] Nicolas Mahut (FRA) d Alexandr Dolgopolov (UKR) 7-6(6), 6-1

[SE] Edouard Roger-Vasselin (FRA) l Ivan Dodig (CRO)  (6)6-7, 4-6

Dmitry Tursunov (RUS) l Marcel Granollers (ESP)  4-6, 4-6

Kevin Anderson (RSA) d Mikhail Youzhny (RUS) 4-6, (0)6-7, 2-1

[Q] Santiago Giraldo (COL) l [14] Jerzy Janowicz (POL) (3)6-7, 3-6

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Day 1
COURT CENTRAL Start 11:00 am

Lukas Rosol (CZE) d Jeremy Chardy (FRA) 6-3, 6-4

Feliciano Lopez (ESP) d [Q] Bernard Tomic (AUS) 6-4, 6-7(4), 7-6(1)

Ernests Gulbis (LAT) l Fernando Verdasco (ESP) - (3)6-7, (5)6-7

Not Before 7:30 pm

Kei Nishikori (JPN) d Julien Benneteau (FRA) 6-4, 6-2

Not Before 8:30 pm

Benoit Paire (FRA) l [Q] Pierre-Hugues Herbert (FRA) 2-6, 2-6 - Surprising result.


COURT 1 Start 11:00 am

[WC] Adrian Mannarino (FRA) l [Q] Santiago Giraldo (COL) 3-6, 6-2, 4-6

Denis Istomin (UZB) l [Q] Robin Haase (NED) (8)6-7, 3-6

[Q] Igor Sijsling (NED) l Marin Cilic (CRO) - 7-5, 1-6, 4-6

Andreas Seppi (ITA) l Philipp Kohlschreiber (GER)  3-6, 6-3, 4-6


ATP Page for Paris Masters Schedule - http://www.atpworldtour.com/Scores/schedule.aspx?EventId=352

(I lost my one-liners for these matches due to a page issue, hence a quick and plain thread for Day 2).

Enjoy!

Haddie-nuff wrote:

CAS wrote:What does Novak have to do now to reclaim number 1?

Pray  

Nadal’s defeat leaves the door open for Djokovic to keep up his bid to finish year-end World No. 1 in the Emirates ATP Rankings. Should the Serb win Sunday’s final, the battle will carry into next week’s Barclays ATP World Tour Finals in London.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2013/10/44/Paris-Saturday-Djokovic-Federer.aspx

I see all manners of fangs bared and hand-bags are out, to prove whose-dad-is-bigger.

laverfan wrote:

Haddie-nuff wrote:

CAS wrote:What does Novak have to do now to reclaim number 1?

Pray  

Nadal’s defeat leaves the door open for Djokovic to keep up his bid to finish year-end World No. 1 in the Emirates ATP Rankings. Should the Serb win Sunday’s final, the battle will carry into next week’s Barclays ATP World Tour Finals in London.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2013/10/44/Paris-Saturday-Djokovic-Federer.aspx

O for God´s sake LF it was meant to be a joke.... lighten up why dont you ???

@H-N… I was referring to the KingRaf v Leonard777 parry-and-thrust.

Then why quote me.... ??


My personal feelings are I would rather Rafa was not number one
He plays better when he is the hunter
So frankly I dont care if Novak regains it.

Oh Nadal  

JuliusHMarx wrote:

invisiblecoolers wrote:

Born Slippy wrote:Good win for Ferrer. Will need to play even better against Djokovic. Interesting that it keeps YE1 technically open. Can't see Rafa going 0-3 against that group though.

It does look like Novak is going to keep himself reasonably close to Rafa in the rankings though. May well have a chance to get the spot back at IW next year.

Next year I see Del Potro reaching that ultimate number by winning the Australian Open, French Open Wimbledon and USO .  

Still no Masters then?  

  No we only make finals in the masters, we don't see it as a reputation mark in the CV and hence we will tank on the finals. 

Jahu wrote:Oh Nadal  

Oh Nadal  from my side too, but why? 

I still don't understand how next monday rankings will be. does djokovic drop 1500 points this monday or next monday??

if he wins tomorrow he would be number one for one day? or for the whole week?

JuliusHMarx wrote:I'm not a gambling man but I'd put money on Ferrer losing his serve again, the tie-break about 7-2, and the match.
We shall see.

  

naxroy wrote:I still don't understand how next monday rankings will be. does djokovic drop 1500 points this monday or next monday??

if he wins tomorrow he would be number one for one day? or for the whole week?

The drop date for the WTF points is 4 Nov 2013. Rankings are updated every week (Monday).

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Rankings/Rankings-FAQ.aspx#points

Haddie-nuff wrote:Then why quote me.... ??

The Pray remark was quoted to clarify the Rankings. I should have quoted the KR/L777 chain in my Fangs post, which would have avoided confusion. about that.

laverfan wrote:

naxroy wrote:I still don't understand how next monday rankings will be. does djokovic drop 1500 points this monday or next monday??

if he wins tomorrow he would be number one for one day? or for the whole week?

The drop date for the WTF points is 4 Nov 2013. Rankings are updated every week (Monday).

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Rankings/Rankings-FAQ.aspx#points

in that case nadal enters wtf as number 1

and with 2 wins in round robin (even if he doesnt make semis with that) he is year end number 1 no matter what nole does

laverfan wrote:The WTF group A is easier, IMO, compared to group B especially given the O2 surface.

Group A - Nadal, Berdych, Wawrinka, Ferrer

Group B - Djokovic, Federer, Gasquet, Del Potro

Nadal, Ferrer v Djokovic, Del Potro (more than likely).

I'm there on Tuesday, both sessions. Pure luck of the draw, got my ticket months ago...Nadal vs Ferrer in the afternoon, Fed vs Novak in the evening. About as good as it can get for me, can't wait!

I shall, of course, be reporting back to 606v2 about the whole shebang...

Federer still has a bit left in the tank but clearly the decline has set in good and proper (and a chronic bad back is part of that).  I can't write that guy off though, but I'd certainly go Del Potro or Djokovic for the ATP finals title.  Despite being a massive Fed fan, I'd like to see Del Potro claim top prize because he is a nice guy who, imho, plays the game how it is meant to be played on these faster surfaces.  

Nadal is very likely to end the year as WN1 and as much as I loathe the sucker, and what they have done to modern tennis, he has deserved it.

naxroy wrote:

laverfan wrote:

naxroy wrote:I still don't understand how next monday rankings will be. does djokovic drop 1500 points this monday or next monday??

if he wins tomorrow he would be number one for one day? or for the whole week?

The drop date for the WTF points is 4 Nov 2013. Rankings are updated every week (Monday).

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Rankings/Rankings-FAQ.aspx#points

in that case nadal enters wtf as number 1

and with 2 wins in round robin (even if he doesnt make semis with that) he is year end number 1 no matter what nole does

I think he only needs one win.

Leonard777 wrote:Federer still has a bit left in the tank but clearly the decline has set in good and proper (and a chronic bad back is part of that).  I can't write that guy off though, but I'd certainly go Del Potro or Djokovic for the ATP finals title.  Despite being a massive Fed fan, I'd like to see Del Potro claim top prize because he is a nice guy who, imho, plays the game how it is meant to be played on these faster surfaces.  

Nadal is very likely to end the year as WN1 and as much as I loathe the sucker, and what they have done to modern tennis, he has deserved it.

I loathe Djokovic, (admire his tennis), BUT it would never occur to me to call him or any other player a sucker.
THEY have all played their part in their own way in  changing the course of  modern tennis. HE didnt do it on his own. I would also suggest that their will be many youngsters  who will evolve in the future that will try (if not succeed) in becoming a "little Rafa"... and so it will go on. God knows I hope we never have a "little Isner"

Haddie-nuff wrote:I loathe Djokovic

Haddie! I didn't think dealt in such emotions! And toward poor, shy, retiring Nole too!

I see after moaning at the crowd in the 3rd set, Novak made an effort to win them back by knocking with Ibrahimovic.

HM Murdoch wrote:

Haddie-nuff wrote:I loathe Djokovic

Haddie! I didn't think dealt in such emotions! And toward poor, shy, retiring Nole too!

HM I "appreciate" him as a player.. but humility is something he would never  understand. I once believed that Roger was the most arrogant of players (all things have changed he has softened in his advancing years and been usurped in that department by none other than the ex world number one)
However HM I will accept the playful "dig"  

It's interesting that some view Fed as very arrogant despite just about everyone who knows him or has worked with him saying the opposite.

Also some view Rafa as arrogant because of his on-court behaviour (didn't his mother say she didn't recognise him on court?) and the
attempts to e.g. change to a 2-year ranking for his own benefit.

Djoko doesn't seem particularly arrogant to me - the odd shirt-ripping incident maybe - bit I think we should forgive anyone their immediate post-GS win/loss reaction. If anything he seems quite needy for appreciation, not arrogant.

"little Isner" - surely to be Isner, you can't be little

JuliusHMarx wrote:It's interesting that some view Fed as very arrogant despite just about everyone who knows him or has worked with him saying the opposite.

Also some view Rafa as arrogant because of his on-court behaviour (didn't his mother say she didn't recognise him on court?) and the
attempts to e.g. change to a 2-year ranking for his own benefit.

Djoko doesn't seem particularly arrogant to me - the odd shirt-ripping incident maybe - bit I think we should forgive anyone their immediate post-GS win/loss reaction. If anything he seems quite needy for appreciation, not arrogant.

"little Isner" - surely to be Isner, you can't be little

As with our perception of others in this life JM what one sees the other does not.
Opinions differ about everyone.
Why do we like some personalities, actors, presenters more than others .. instinctive analysis.

I know many who share my opinions and you can say the same.
Of course what is absolutely true is there is no "little" about Isner...except his game.

Maybe it's instinctive analysis, but I think we have to recognise that out instinctive analysis is probably less accurate than that of people who know them, work with them and play against them.

Who is this L77? I haven't posted regularly on the Tennis forum for a while now. Why are you bugging me? Seriously leave me alone!

Also, Nice to see Nole knocking around with the omnipotent Zlatan.

Lets all cheer for Ferrer, hes finally kicking ass at ripe old age. No one wants Djoko to win Paris, except his dad and a couple of his fans.

Lets all cheer for Ferrer, hes finally kicking ass at ripe old age. No one wants Djoko to win Paris, except his dad and a couple of his fans.

I've been more disturbed with Djokovic's family than him over the years. I witnessed personally some truly horrific behavior by them in the box a few years ago in Cinci.  I thought Djoko while having his moments, did well given the example they set and what he surely grew up in.  However, I was pretty disappointed in DJokovic yesterday.  It's surely tough to face a French crowd rooting for Federer and even Djokovic yelling at them can be excused as they were trying to disrupt them..   Some of his smirking when breaking Federer, imploring the crowd to cheer for him at bad moments for Fed was very poor. The worst was when he broke Fed for the last time in the 3rd set and the players were crossing paths to sit down during the change over.  Just as Djokovic passed Federer he started waving his hands at the crowd in a "ha,ha, I beat your guy" way and started barking at them.. He was rightly booed.   It just showed a complete lack of respect for Federer- which Federer does and did not deserve.  Djokovic kept barking at them when he sat down.  The match was won, the day over, the elder Goat vanquished.  Show some class Djokovic.[/quote]

JuliusHMarx wrote:Maybe it's instinctive analysis, but I think we have to recognise that out instinctive analysis is probably less accurate than that of people who know them, work with them and play against them.

Ok but if I should agree to that ... bear in mind it applies to Rafa too

I have to agree about Novak yesterday.

I didn't care at all about what he did in Madrid because that crowd was just crass.

But the crowd yesterday seemed pretty fair. When Federer was on top during the first set, there were chants of "Nole, Nole". They just seemed to be cheering for the guy who needed support.

And the support Fed was getting in the third seemed pretty polite. They weren't booing Novak (at least I couldn't hear any), they were just trying to rally Fed. I don't know why Novak was so peeved.

Haddie-nuff wrote:

JuliusHMarx wrote:Maybe it's instinctive analysis, but I think we have to recognise that out instinctive analysis is probably less accurate than that of people who know them, work with them and play against them.

Ok but if I should agree to that ... bear in mind it applies to Rafa too

Yes I agree. I believe he's a genuinely nice guy off court, and there are probably a fair few other players who aren't. I don't even mind his on court manner, although I think he's changed to become more surly ('snarly'?) over the years, which is less 'likeable', for want of a better word. The only think I really don't like is the time between points and also there are other players whose style of play I prefer, but that's just aesthetics. And on clay, I actually prefer his style of play, because IMHO that's how clay court tennis should be played i.e. the more physical game.

The main thing I don't like about Djoko is the racket smashing and again the time between points, but I don't see much arrogance about him. Djoko bounces the ball about 13 -14 times - I've tried doing that before serving - it's just incredible that someone should need to do that - it takes forever!

Jahu wrote:Lets all cheer for Ferrer, hes finally kicking ass at ripe old age. No one wants Djoko to win Paris, except his dad and a couple of his fans.

I really can't cheer for Ferrer. I can't even bring myself to try

Yes you can Julian... you know you want to... I'll be hoping the umpire has a good game.

Nobody watching?
Djoko was behind but won the first set 7-5, now he's 6-5 up and has 2 match points on Daveeed's serve.

Nothing good to watch.

Otherwisr Laverfan kucked us all at the other thread.

@Jahu.. I thought people would prefer a clean thread for the finals. I could have merged the two.