Should we have more sympathy with referees ???

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I'm not talking about blatantly biased in your pocket types..............We can argue about Steele all day long............

Just that I noticed Smoger was getting it the other day and he's about the 4th referee in recent weeks to get it...

Can't be easy sometimes to know when a guy is taking too many on the gloves or how long to let infringements go..

Had no problem with Cortez docking Hatton against Floyd though not for the offence he did it.........

I think Mills Lane was the best I ever saw but even he looked a prat at times.....Especially when refereeing Camacho or in the Starling-Breland fight...

It's a tough job and I'd much rather take incompetence than downright blatantly in the pocket officials..

Other sports like soccer show us that refereeing isn't an exact science..

Maybe we are too hard...on them..

Eddie Cotton was one of the worst refs I've seen,in Lewis's dressing room before his fight with Tyson he told Lennox not to keep sticking his left into Tyson's face and warned him several times for hitting Tyson on the head. After the fight was over Lewis said that he was worried that if Tyson did manage to hit him hard the fight would have been stopped in Tyson's favour.

I've watched the last round and the face push is an odd one, Murat tried to headbutt Hopkins about three times after the bell at which point an infuriated Smoger pushed him away.

Hammersmith harrier wrote:I've watched the last round and the face push is an odd one, Murat tried to headbutt Hopkins about three times after the bell at which point an infuriated Smoger pushed him away.

It had a bit of the "if you hit my mate you hit me" look to it. Odd alright, odd that Murat tried to headbutt after the final bell too. It was a bit of a street fight.

Can't remember what round it was but was really strange when Hopkins turned around walked to the corner, stood there and kept looking into the crowd.

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Can't remember what round it was but was really strange when Hopkins turned around walked to the corner, stood there and kept looking into the crowd.

Forgot about that. That was odd, he seemed to keep trying to turn to talk, but Murat kept interrupting him with punches. Don't know what was going on there.
What about Hopkins kissing Murat on the back of the neck and head? You couldn't make this stuff up.

I've not seen the whole fight yet, all the youtube uploads have foreign commentary and I can't be dealing with that but what I have seen is just bizarre. Hopkins looked brilliant though, was sitting down on his punches more than he has done for years.

Yeah, sat through the Russian commentary. It was an amazing performance for Hopkins, the first 6 rounds were pretty boring but the last thing you'd expect was the 48 year old coming on strong in the latter half of a street fight.

The kiss was a touch of Bhop class, Bhop he had his right cocked to punch Murat in the back of the head, but instead leaned in and missed him. It signified Murat being totally owned.

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

catchweight wrote:I can give a substantiated opinion on the reports I read of the fight. Plenty of which indicate Smoger did a poor job. Im quite happy to go off reports of fights and other sporting events that I dont watch either from online, television, radio or newspapers. I suspect everyone that comments on here has not watched every single fight they comment on. Especially when they have boxrec handy.

catchweight wrote:I logged onto a boxing forum and said I read reports of the fight

What you did was log onto a boxing forum, read a post made by a user of that forum and take that post as the gospel. That is the equivalent of me logging into the football section of this forum, reading a post by a user that a referee spat in the face of a player and hit him and then believing that users comment without doing any other investigation.

What is worse is that not only have you read a comment by a user on a forum and believed it like it was the gospel, but you have logged onto another forum and have started telling everyone that smoger did x and y and you know he did x and y because a user on a different forum said he did.

No I didnt thats just your own ignorant ham fisted interpretation of it. What I did is, in the absence of watching a fight I had no major interest in watching, I read a few reports of the fight and read plenty of comments which said Smoger was poor and unprofessional which cited examples. Not one isolated comment. But 20 or 30 comments made by different people. Nowhere did I argue that this was all gospel. In fact I made it clear it was based only on what I had read about the fight. Shock, horror I mentioned this on a boxing thread discussing the fight and as usual get cry babies coming along whinging and jumping all over comments which they themselves misinterpret. I suppose I probably shouldnt mention that Hopkins won the fight or came out in an alien costume because after all I didnt watch the fight so the reports therefore cant be confirmed.

Supposedly Hopkins turning his back and going to Murats corner was to tell their corner to pull Murat out as he was getting beaten up. Again, based on reports I read of the fight.

catchweight wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

catchweight wrote:I can give a substantiated opinion on the reports I read of the fight. Plenty of which indicate Smoger did a poor job. Im quite happy to go off reports of fights and other sporting events that I dont watch either from online, television, radio or newspapers. I suspect everyone that comments on here has not watched every single fight they comment on. Especially when they have boxrec handy.

catchweight wrote:I logged onto a boxing forum and said I read reports of the fight

What you did was log onto a boxing forum, read a post made by a user of that forum and take that post as the gospel. That is the equivalent of me logging into the football section of this forum, reading a post by a user that a referee spat in the face of a player and hit him and then believing that users comment without doing any other investigation.

What is worse is that not only have you read a comment by a user on a forum and believed it like it was the gospel, but you have logged onto another forum and have started telling everyone that smoger did x and y and you know he did x and y because a user on a different forum said he did.

No I didnt thats just your own ignorant ham fisted interpretation of it. What I did is, in the absence of watching a fight I had no major interest in watching, I read a few reports of the fight and read plenty of comments which said Smoger was poor and unprofessional which cited examples. Not one isolated comment. But 20 or 30 comments made by different people. Nowhere did I argue that this was all gospel. In fact I made it clear it was based only on what I had read about the fight. Shock, horror I mentioned this on a boxing thread discussing the fight and as usual get cry babies coming along whinging and jumping all over comments which they themselves misinterpret. I suppose I probably shouldnt mention that Hopkins won the fight or came out in an alien costume because after all I didnt watch the fight so the reports therefore cant be confirmed.

What is worrying is that you have spent hours arguing about a fight which you have no interest in watching.

You have your own stupidity and ignorance to thank for that.

catchweight wrote:You have your own stupidity and ignorance to thank for that.

Least I don't spend hours arguing about a fight I never watched or have no intention of watching

catchweight wrote:Supposedly Hopkins turning his back and going to Murats corner was to tell their corner to pull Murat out as he was getting beaten up. Again, based on reports I read of the fight.

Hopkins turned his back because Murat pulled out a gun from his trunks. You can now take my comment and go on other boxing sites and tell everyone that Murat had a gun and you know this happened because you read a users comment on a boxing forum that said it happened.

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

catchweight wrote:You have your own stupidity and ignorance to thank for that.

Least I don't spend hours arguing about a fight I never watched or have no intention of watching

I spent closer to about 25 minutes arguing but yeah I fully agree theres probably no greater waste of time correspondence with you although in a way your stupidity is entertaining in a David Brent kind of way. If David Brent was actually a real person.

catchweight wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

catchweight wrote:You have your own stupidity and ignorance to thank for that.

Least I don't spend hours arguing about a fight I never watched or have no intention of watching

I spent closer to about 25 minutes arguing but yeah I fully agree theres probably no greater waste of time correspondence with you although in a way your stupidity is entertaining in a David Brent kind of way. If David Brent was actually a real person.

If you look at the first comment you made on the previous thread and now your latest comment on this thread, you have been arguing about the hopkins fight ( a fight you said you have no interest in and will not watch) for a number of days now.

Thanks catch. Good enough for me. Makes sense that Hopkins would say that to his corner, I don't think he Russian commentators covered it.

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

catchweight wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

catchweight wrote:You have your own stupidity and ignorance to thank for that.

Least I don't spend hours arguing about a fight I never watched or have no intention of watching

I spent closer to about 25 minutes arguing but yeah I fully agree theres probably no greater waste of time correspondence with you although in a way your stupidity is entertaining in a David Brent kind of way. If David Brent was actually a real person.

If you look at the first comment you made on the previous thread and now your latest comment on this thread, you have been arguing about the hopkins fight ( a fight you said you have no interest in and will not watch) for a number of days now.

Yes but I have the luxury of knowing how much time I actually spent arguing it. I dont spend every waking minute on here, although you probably do trawling around for comments about your favourite fighters to cry about. Carry on making an arse of yourself if you like, Il be on here intermittently for about another hour if you want to keep it up for the next while. Id say this post probably bbrings me up to the half hour mark on the subject seeing as you want to keep track.

catchweight wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

catchweight wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

catchweight wrote:You have your own stupidity and ignorance to thank for that.

Least I don't spend hours arguing about a fight I never watched or have no intention of watching

I spent closer to about 25 minutes arguing but yeah I fully agree theres probably no greater waste of time correspondence with you although in a way your stupidity is entertaining in a David Brent kind of way. If David Brent was actually a real person.

If you look at the first comment you made on the previous thread and now your latest comment on this thread, you have been arguing about the hopkins fight ( a fight you said you have no interest in and will not watch) for a number of days now.

Yes but I have the luxury of knowing how much time I actually spent arguing it. I dont spend every waking minute on here, although you probably do trawling around for comments about your favourite fighters to cry about. Carry on making an arse of yourself if you like, Il be on here intermittently for about another hour if you want to keep it up for the next while. Id say this post probably bbrings me up to the half hour mark on the subject seeing as you want to keep track.

But you would continue to argue about the hopkins fight ( a fight you said you have no interest in) for the forseable future.

catchweight wrote:Supposedly Hopkins turning his back and going to Murats corner was to tell their corner to pull Murat out as he was getting beaten up. Again, based on reports I read of the fight.

O dead God re you going to debate with me that Murat should have been pulled out because you have read a few comments on a boxing forum that suggest so?

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

catchweight wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

catchweight wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

catchweight wrote:You have your own stupidity and ignorance to thank for that.

Least I don't spend hours arguing about a fight I never watched or have no intention of watching

I spent closer to about 25 minutes arguing but yeah I fully agree theres probably no greater waste of time correspondence with you although in a way your stupidity is entertaining in a David Brent kind of way. If David Brent was actually a real person.

If you look at the first comment you made on the previous thread and now your latest comment on this thread, you have been arguing about the hopkins fight ( a fight you said you have no interest in and will not watch) for a number of days now.

Yes but I have the luxury of knowing how much time I actually spent arguing it. I dont spend every waking minute on here, although you probably do trawling around for comments about your favourite fighters to cry about. Carry on making an arse of yourself if you like, Il be on here intermittently for about another hour if you want to keep it up for the next while. Id say this post probably bbrings me up to the half hour mark on the subject seeing as you want to keep track.

But you would continue to argue about the hopkins fight ( a fight you said you have no interest in) for the forseable future.

Not really. What the vast majority of my time discussing has been spent on is trying to correct your misguided crap that you have been spouting rather than the Hopkins fight.

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

catchweight wrote:Supposedly Hopkins turning his back and going to Murats corner was to tell their corner to pull Murat out as he was getting beaten up. Again, based on reports I read of the fight.

O dead God re you going to debate with me that Murat should have been pulled out because you have read a few comments on a boxing forum that suggest so?

Are you really this thick or is it an act?

catchweight wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

catchweight wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

catchweight wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

catchweight wrote:You have your own stupidity and ignorance to thank for that.

Least I don't spend hours arguing about a fight I never watched or have no intention of watching

I spent closer to about 25 minutes arguing but yeah I fully agree theres probably no greater waste of time correspondence with you although in a way your stupidity is entertaining in a David Brent kind of way. If David Brent was actually a real person.

If you look at the first comment you made on the previous thread and now your latest comment on this thread, you have been arguing about the hopkins fight ( a fight you said you have no interest in and will not watch) for a number of days now.

Yes but I have the luxury of knowing how much time I actually spent arguing it. I dont spend every waking minute on here, although you probably do trawling around for comments about your favourite fighters to cry about. Carry on making an arse of yourself if you like, Il be on here intermittently for about another hour if you want to keep it up for the next while. Id say this post probably bbrings me up to the half hour mark on the subject seeing as you want to keep track.

But you would continue to argue about the hopkins fight ( a fight you said you have no interest in) for the forseable future.

Not really. What the vast majority of my time discussing has been spent on is trying to correct your misguided crap that you have been spouting rather than the Hopkins fight.

I am still waiting for you to tell me the round and the time that smoger swore at Murat......... Go and read some comments on the boxing forum to find out.

Im still waiting for you to throw yourself off the nearest building. High one preferably.

It is Rios v Pacquio soon, I am not going to watch the fight I am just going to read users comments on boxing forums about the fight and then I am going to go on another forum and debate with users who actually watched the fight about what happened.

Well whatever you do, you will make a guaranteed arse of yourself. No doubt about that.

catchweight wrote:Well whatever you do, you will make a guaranteed arse of yourself. No doubt about that.

 

catchweight wrote:I heard he was a massive homer to Hopkins...swore at Murat

When did he swear? i am still waiting

catchweight wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

catchweight wrote:You have your own stupidity and ignorance to thank for that.

Least I don't spend hours arguing about a fight I never watched or have no intention of watching

I spent closer to about 25 minutes arguing but yeah I fully agree theres probably no greater waste of time correspondence with you although in a way your stupidity is entertaining in a David Brent kind of way. If David Brent was actually a real person.

be honest you spent almost the entire day sunday and half the day Monday making negative comments about Hopkins performance!! AND YOU STILL HAVENT SEEN IT

give up gordy, you know you are losing when you keep insulting strangers on a forum

catchweight wrote:Im still waiting for you to throw yourself off the nearest building. High one preferably.

well done gordy. class as always.

catchweight wrote:You have your own stupidity and ignorance to thank for that.

come on now gordy, you should know better than most its not nice to be called stupid....

Lance wrote:

catchweight wrote:You have your own stupidity and ignorance to thank for that.

come on now gordy, you should know better than most its not nice to be called stupid....

He could be Gordy, I never even thought about that.

Lance wrote:

catchweight wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

catchweight wrote:You have your own stupidity and ignorance to thank for that.

Least I don't spend hours arguing about a fight I never watched or have no intention of watching

I spent closer to about 25 minutes arguing but yeah I fully agree theres probably no greater waste of time correspondence with you although in a way your stupidity is entertaining in a David Brent kind of way. If David Brent was actually a real person.

be honest you spent almost the entire day sunday and half the day Monday making negative comments about Hopkins performance!! AND YOU STILL HAVENT SEEN IT

give up gordy, you know you are losing when you keep insulting strangers on a forum

No Ive spent my time arguing with half wits like yourself and champagne socialists. You have more of an excuse I guess as you are up Hopkins bumhole in a creepy way but what you have in common is you are so thick that you cant actually interpret a guy commenting that he read reports that the ref in a fight was poor for what it is. I havent made any comments about Hopkins performace. Again this is your deluded love for Hopkins making you see things. I said the fight was pointless, which I stand by. I didnt comment negatively on Hopkins performance. You are seriously weird stalker-esque creep but Id happily point you to the same building Champagne Socialist is hopefully at the top of. Is Gordy your special name for Hopkins manhood?

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

Lance wrote:

catchweight wrote:You have your own stupidity and ignorance to thank for that.

come on now gordy, you should know better than most its not nice to be called stupid....

He could be Gordy, I never even thought about that.

he definitely is mate. got the exact same attitude.

Good topic. We may well be too hard on them sometimes but then I think they bring it on themselves at times too.

The guy who reffed Khan v Peterson, for example. I remember him shouting 'lets get it on!' as he gave them final instructions. I turned to my mate and said 'this guy is going to be a Muppet.' And he was.

It's a tough job depending on who is in the ring, I think. We are probably too hard ont hem. Boxing fans are some of the harshest critics there are.