Euro Division LXIX

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The Enrique & J from 5ive League
 
FC WHU Do You Think You Are - Gregers
 
Bilbao - Afro
 
Would you dance, if Ajax you to dance? - Sodhat
 
Southampton FC - Marky
 
PSV - Holymik
 
Sport Club Corinthians Paulista - Nando                                                                              
 
Lille - Trebs
 
Glad t'be bach - Hero
 
FC Basel - Viva
 
FC ZwagAtletico - Zinedine_Ze_Zebra
 
The Nodge - Olly
 
Fool 'em FC - Tranq

Thank you Marky, not like it really mattered though

Fernando wrote:I told you Chelsea would win by 2 goals ZZZ  

And I listened, had Chelsea to win 1-0,2-0 or 2-1 doubled with West Ham 1-0, 2-0 or 2-1. Think I picked up £24 from £2 on that.
Heard you guys weren't too good & it was comfortable for Chelsea. You missed Giroud apparently. Ill see the highlights tomorrow.
Any of that true Greggers?

Marky, Fer didn't touch the ball & he clearly touches Adnan & drops him...........you can use the "Its Old Trafford" excuse now, after all SAF is gone & as Mark Hughes said its lost its aura.

There is contact, but Januzaj stays on his feet then collapses a second later. Had it been Ashley Young there'd have been another witch-hunt.

Januzaj booked for diving on that dream debut v Sunderland as well wasn't he? Funny that.

Still, Aldershot lost. https://www.youtube.com/embed/n6yyZY9L-LE

Marky wrote:Januzaj booked for diving on that dream debut v Sunderland as well wasn't he? Funny that.

So that instantly makes him a serial diver?
Fer knocks him, he loses balance & goes down. Theres not that long of a delay.
Saying that my stream wasn't spot on so maybe there was. Ill watch the highlights tomorrow & judge then. Or are they on Sky tonight?

If anyone wishes to see me lose the plot on someone shortly stay tuned on the realistic league.

I've just seen it on SSN.

Not saying he's a serial diver, but he has already done it before in his short Man U career!

He welcomes a clumsily tackle in positions of opportunity Id call it.

Zinedine_Ze_Zebra wrote:

Fernando wrote:I told you Chelsea would win by 2 goals ZZZ  

And I listened, had Chelsea to win 1-0,2-0 or 2-1 doubled with West Ham 1-0, 2-0 or 2-1. Think I picked up £24 from £2 on that.
Heard you guys weren't too good & it was comfortable for Chelsea. You missed Giroud apparently. Ill see the highlights tomorrow.
Any of that true Greggers?

Marky, Fer didn't touch the ball & he clearly touches Adnan & drops him...........you can use the "Its Old Trafford" excuse now, after all SAF is gone & as Mark Hughes said its lost its aura.

We played well Zebs, not great but Mata/Essien/Azp were quality. Cahill is so solid as well, kept Arsenal at bay well. Schwarzer the best backup keeper we've had since Cudicini.

Arsenal were fairly poor, without Giroud they lacked any threat going forward. Ozil looked off as well.

Marky wrote:Not saying he's a serial diver, but he has already done it before in his short Man U career!

He got booked for it once, has made several appearances after & non been in any similar like controversity so id give him the benefit of the doubt.

Think some highlights are on SS1 at 11pm so ill watch it properly then.
From what I have seen tho I didn't think it was a dive. There was contact, its one of those, you see them given & you seen them not.

It's probably the softest penalty I've seen given in my lifetime

Any suggestions for foreign managers Norwich could get, I love Malky but he's just another Hughton for me

I didn't say he dived tonight. I said there was contact and he fell over. Not a chance he was genuinely tripped.

Berti Vogts?

Hero wrote:He welcomes a clumsily tackle in positions of opportunity Id call it.

Some managers have been known to encourage that & a lot of players in football also do.

I always though Arsenal would struggle when proven opponents come knocking. Dortmund now Chelsea. Lpool will give their defence problems due to SAS (who are shaping up well, looking like the best partnership ive seen since Yorke & Cole) & hopfully we do in 2 weeks time.

Marky wrote:I didn't say he dived tonight. I said there was contact and he fell over. Not a chance he was genuinely tripped.

What am I on about? That IS diving

Fer made contact with Januzaj so Januzaj went down. He wasn't fouled and football isn't a non contact sport. He did what loads of others do, he cheated. But because there's contact people will defend diving. And it will never leave the game until these people realise that there is no difference between diving with no contact and diving with minimal contact.

I actually usually mention in my tactics for players to look for, I don't have that much of an issue with players being able to lure a player into sticking their leg out, I take issue though when there's no contact and it's total simulation.

Marky, Fer is quite big, Adnan is small & lightweight, would take much to knock him down......lol
Ill judge it when ive seen it properly.

Hero wrote:I actually usually mention in my tactics for players to look for, I don't have that much of an issue with players being able to lure a player into sticking their leg out, I take issue though when there's no contact and it's total simulation.

From what I saw it seemed like that, Fer was lured into making a challenge, missed the ball & got the player.

FER IS A CRAP PLAYER.

Morning

Morning

Are we getting our usual Lawyers offers this week?

Nope

No standard lawyers, just End of Season ones.

Week 1 of Season 2 can begin on 5th November, with first tactics due on 7th, if people are happy with a quick turnaround and short gap between seasons?

If so, then next "normal" lawyers would be on the 5th

If anyone wants to swap their team for my retiring Ajax side they have my blessing. Just be nice to the de Jong triplets.

Can I suggest the following for the two retiring teams:

Each other team gets one half price player from each of the sides, random draw of all managers to decide order e.g.

Marky
Hero
Afro
Trebs
Milky
Gregers
Zebs
Viva
Olly
TC

We go top to bottom for the first player (can be from either of the retiring sides) and then back up the list for the second (with each manager having to pick from the other retiring side)

Each player will be available for HALF of their TM value.

All unsold players get sold to lawyers and will be unavailable until season 3

Here's what I think we need to discuss and agree on

1) Change to the calculation of results. My proposal is to stick with the current approach, but reduce the +1 for number of extra wins down from 3 to 2, particularly given the reduction down to 10 teams/8 votes per match.

2) Whether to have a TP window as per Zidane's proposal (can you remind us of this ZZZ)

3) End of Season prizes based on targets. I will dig out my earlier proposal.

4) Who is going to calculate results instead of Soddy?

Gregers wrote:Can I suggest the following for the two retiring teams:

Each other team gets one half price player from each of the sides, random draw of all managers to decide order e.g.

Marky
Hero
Afro
Trebs
Milky
Gregers
Zebs
Viva
Olly
TC

We go top to bottom for the first player (can be from either of the retiring sides) and then back up the list for the second (with each manager having to pick from the other retiring side)

Each player will be available for HALF of their TM value.

All unsold players get sold to lawyers and will be unavailable until season 3

I'm a bit harsher I was going to suggest that all the players from both teams get chucked on the Left in Lawyers list for Season 2 and therefore are unavailable until Season 3

Why not just say all the players are on the market for TP value? If they aren't in the league then that surely makes the most sense.

Because I like being harsh, not sensible

Afro wrote:1) Change to the calculation of results. My proposal is to stick with the current approach, but reduce the +1 for number of extra wins down from 3 to 2, particularly given the reduction down to 10 teams/8 votes per match.

Err, the above + the below.
If you get more win votes you should win. Ill go back to using my match last week for example purposes.

Votes went:
Zwag win: 3
Draw: 2
FC WHU win: 2

Goals went:
Zawg total goals: 7
FC WHU total goals: 6
7 divided by (No of Votes) 7 = 1
6 divided by (No of Votes) 7 = 0.86

"In this instance the benefit of the doubt is being given to a team who did not accumulate a full goal based on the averages and who did not receive more or equal win votes.
The team who received more win votes & averagely scored higher is being overlooked & not rewarded for having more wins + averagely better stats."

I feel we shouldnt round up the average goals. 0.99 would result in nil goals scored. Must be at least 1.00 to be given as a goal.

Ill put my transfer policy up in 10 or so mins.

Zinedine_Ze_Zebra wrote:

Afro wrote:1) Change to the calculation of results. My proposal is to stick with the current approach, but reduce the +1 for number of extra wins down from 3 to 2, particularly given the reduction down to 10 teams/8 votes per match.

Err, the above + the below.
If you get more win votes you should win. Ill go back to using my match last week for example purposes.

Votes went:
Zwag win: 3
Draw: 2
FC WHU win: 2

Goals went:
Zawg total goals: 7
FC WHU total goals: 6
7 divided by (No of Votes) 7 = 1
6 divided by (No of Votes) 7 = 0.86

"In this instance the benefit of the doubt is being given to a team who did not accumulate a full goal based on the averages and who did not receive more or equal win votes.
The team who received more win votes & averagely scored higher is being overlooked & not rewarded for having more wins + averagely better stats."

I feel we shouldnt round up the average goals. 0.99 would result in nil goals scored. Must be at least 1.00 to be given as a goal.

Ill put my transfer policy up in 10 or so mins.

Ah yes, forgot about that bit. I agree. It is always rounded down, so to achieve a goal, you have to average a goal essentially

If its that close a draw is fairest though. It ain't broke, why fix it?

Marky wrote:If its that close a draw is fairest though. It ain't broke, why fix it?

It is kinda broke though. As you can see form the above stats Zwag were better on win votes & average goals but we not rewarded for it.

If win votes are equal then its most likely average goals will be equal so the outcome will be a draw.

I think it is broke. I would like something that reduces the large number of draws and turns them into wins one way or the other.

I wouldn't do wholesale changes. But given the reduction to 10 teams, I think the +3 win votes does need to be reduced anyway to +2 and I would do rounding down the average goals rather than rounding to the nearest.

Afro wrote:I wouldn't do wholesale changes. But given the reduction to 10 teams, I think the +3 win votes does need to be reduced anyway to +2 and I would do rounding down the average goals rather than rounding to the nearest.

I agree on both points.

I'm going to pull a sicky on Friday because I can't be bothered this week.  How do I hide my online on the ps3? I don't want work colleagues to see that I was online during work time.  I could easily do that on the Xbox if I wanted to stay offline when I'm really online.

Have you ever called someones parent their grandparent?  
Haha it's so awkward and embarrassing.

Viva, dont think you can on the PS3 but if your too "sick" to work can they question you for being in your house playing PS3?

Cant say I have called someones parent their grandparent. Bet it doesnt go down well.

VivaPaulScholes wrote:I'm going to pull a sicky on Friday because I can't be bothered this week.  How do I hide my online on the ps3? I don't want work colleagues to see that I was online during work time.  I could easily do that on the Xbox if I wanted to stay offline when I'm really online.

Why not unplug your router while you're playing?

VivaPaulScholes wrote:I'm going to pull a sicky on Friday because I can't be bothered this week.  How do I hide my online on the ps3? I don't want work colleagues to see that I was online during work time.  I could easily do that on the Xbox if I wanted to stay offline when I'm really online.

turn your wifi off

Play the Nintendo 64 instead?

Just play & tell work so what!
If your sick off work it doesnt mean you incapable of picking up a controller & pressing a few buttons.

Stop being a cat Viva, Be a Man!

Rule 1 for work colleagues.

Do not add on any social media

What if he tells them he's taking a day off to get psychotherapy for his fear of buttons?

I'll have to turn the router off. 

I'm very cautious when I pull a sicky (Which is rare) I don't even go on whatsapp so they don't see my last online. 

I'm try to complete GTA on Friday and give it in for Lost Souls.

sodhat wrote:What if he tells them he's taking a day off to get psychotherapy for his fear of buttons?

In that case he would not be very good at making lies up to have a day off work!

Nick you need to make a Japanese psn account you get games on there which will never ever be open to Europe/North American market. You also get demos and games released way before we get them.

Unless he works in a Chelsea Pensioner nursing home.

I never pull a sicky. If I'm tired or lazy or want a day off I just do my job really half-arsed all day.

VivaPaulScholes wrote:Nick you need to make a Japanese psn account you get games on there which will never ever be open to Europe/North American market. You also get demos and games released way before we get them.

Ive heard, im going to do it on PS4. Will check out how PS+ & stuff may effect it on there.

I did have American Nexflix on my PS3 viva but it stopped working so I changed it back to UK version. Havent tried it since.

Ive pulled a few here & there in the past. I hadnt had a sick day this year until I broke my hand  

OK, if we are starting season 2 next week we have stuff to do.

Who did fixtures last time? How are they done, random gen website or what?
I can do them if someone give me a tip.

Do we want a fresh TP & TP Confirmation page for season 2?
We can just lock season 1 pages.
My TP Limit idea, we need to vote on it. Who needs a reminder?

A decision on how results are calculated needs to be confirmed, so far only me & Afro have said out preferences.

Decision on the players from the 2 teams which have disbanded needs to be made.

Lets get organised ladies!