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Post by GloriousEmpire Mon 04 Nov 2013, 11:29 pm

First topic message reminder :

Anyone remember this from just two years ago?

http://m.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union-news/irb-must-act-to-ensure-against-rogue-refereeing-20110826-1je8g.html

"The fact is that Clancy altered the laws of rugby to give an advantage to the home side" ...

"The worst officiating mistake in the modern era..."

Gosh, sound familiar?

Already reprimanded by IRB head referee boss for not knowing the laws, Clancy was let lose again to mess up another international. How many chances will this guy get?

Or just last year?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-2113149/Warren-Gatland-frustrated-referee.html

On other news, a "seething" Ewen McKenzie is to follow up Clancy's performance with the IRB following a video review of the match:

http://m.theaustralian.com.au/sport/rugby-union/penalties-cost-wallabies-dearly-as-england-wins-20-13-in-rugby/story-e6frg7o6-1226752119754

It will be interesting to see how NZ v
England pans out with the worlds best referee Craig Joubert named,
With european top whistler Nigel Owens handling the ireland v NZ game. Did Australia's falling reputation see them landed with the most notoriously problematic and least favourable referee?

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Post by gregortree Fri 08 Nov 2013, 4:14 pm

Guns, stop confusing ghost with inconvenient facts about French brutality.
You don't mention all those NZ broken they have inflicted.

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Post by GunsGerms Fri 08 Nov 2013, 4:18 pm

I dont get him at all. If he doesnt want to be treated as a village idiot I dont understand why he keeps posting nonsense that he cant back up at all.

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Post by GunsGerms Fri 08 Nov 2013, 4:20 pm

gregortree wrote:Guns, stop confusing ghost with inconvenient facts about French brutality.
You don't mention all those NZ broken they have inflicted.
O'Driscoll regularly gets dry needling treatment on his shoulder for the injury he sustained on the Lions tour in NZ. He has had multiple operations on that shoulder over the course of his career but of course its ok because in NZ it was....

"an accident"

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Post by GloriousEmpire Fri 08 Nov 2013, 4:22 pm

That has nothing to do with France at all. Learn to argue.

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Post by GloriousEmpire Fri 08 Nov 2013, 4:23 pm

GunsGerms wrote:
GloriousEmpire wrote:I disagree. That wasn't proven.
So are you saying that

a. They are just really bad at intentionally injuring people - Cant think of one player that has been perminently injured v France.

or

b. The fact that they have had 0 red cards in 13 years means nothing? If you approach every match with the intention of perminently injuring players surely you would receive red cards every match.

Did you know that no French player has ever got a ban for eye gouging in an International match?
I imagine they keep getting away with it like Rougerie did.

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Post by ME-109 Fri 08 Nov 2013, 4:23 pm

GloriousEmpire wrote:That has nothing to do with France at all. Learn to argue.
It has something to do with New Zealand though...learn to read...

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Post by GloriousEmpire Fri 08 Nov 2013, 4:25 pm

Start your own thread if you want to discuss that - it's off topic.

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Post by ME-109 Fri 08 Nov 2013, 4:26 pm

Want to discuss Jouberts obvious bias towards the ABs in the WC final thereby helping said chokers over the line...pity they couldn't win it themselves.

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Post by gregortree Fri 08 Nov 2013, 4:30 pm

GE, then maybe your thread title needs morphing to 'French Brutality', or is that off topic ?

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Post by GunsGerms Fri 08 Nov 2013, 4:48 pm

GloriousEmpire wrote:
GunsGerms wrote:
GloriousEmpire wrote:I disagree. That wasn't proven.
So are you saying that

a. They are just really bad at intentionally injuring people - Cant think of one player that has been perminently injured v France.

or

b. The fact that they have had 0 red cards in 13 years means nothing? If you approach every match with the intention of perminently injuring players surely you would receive red cards every match.

Did you know that no French player has ever got a ban for eye gouging in an International match?
I imagine they keep getting away with it like Rougerie did.
You imagine now? So what you are saying that this debate is a figment of your imagination? Thought so.

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Post by R!skysports Fri 08 Nov 2013, 4:54 pm

GunsGerms wrote:
GloriousEmpire wrote:
GunsGerms wrote:
GloriousEmpire wrote:I disagree. That wasn't proven.
So are you saying that

a. They are just really bad at intentionally injuring people - Cant think of one player that has been perminently injured v France.

or

b. The fact that they have had 0 red cards in 13 years means nothing? If you approach every match with the intention of perminently injuring players surely you would receive red cards every match.

Did you know that no French player has ever got a ban for eye gouging in an International match?
I imagine they keep getting away with it like Rougerie did.
You imagine now? So what you are saying that this debate is a figment of your imagination? Thought so.
Yahoo

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Post by GloriousEmpire Sat 09 Nov 2013, 12:13 pm

It's a widely accepted fact that French teams like to play dirty. Of You domy realistę that then you are just naiive.

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Post by The Fourth Lion Sat 09 Nov 2013, 12:47 pm

GloriousEmpire wrote:It's a widely accepted fact that French teams like to play dirty. Of You domy realistę that then you are just naiive.
I'm usually quite cautious of people who state opinions as fact. Can I ask you, what exactly it is that you base that statement on..?

I'm not aware that France have a significantly worse disciplinary record than any other country. I don't know if a table has been compiled of, say, the average number of penalties conceded in test matches, or whatever. If there is such a thing, then I've missed it and would appreciate you posting a link to it or a reference so we can all become enlightened.

Of course, you're entitled to your opinion and I respect that. It may be mooted that some French players have played <ahem> on the edge of the laws throughout their careers, but most countries have had players like that at some point. On the whole though, the French don't seem any better or worse than anybody else to me.

Would you care to back your opinion up with some hard evidence..? Over to you.
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Post by GloriousEmpire Sat 09 Nov 2013, 12:49 pm

It's a part of French rugby culture. If you've been involved in it or near to it in anyway it's just a truth that is evident. Like bad weather in Britain and train strikes at Christmas.

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Post by tigerleghorn Sat 09 Nov 2013, 12:58 pm

GloriousEmpire wrote:It's a part of French rugby culture. If you've been involved in it or near to it in anyway it's just a truth that is evident. Like bad weather in Britain and train strikes at Christmas.
This is as good a response as you'll receive from GE I'm afraid. His statements of facts are only ever his opinion and as such impossible for him to substantiate.

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Post by GloriousEmpire Sat 09 Nov 2013, 1:10 pm

Ah whatever. I have a rancid hangover today and can't be bothered. Im probably wrong. I just recall there being a spate of "nasty" incidents involving the French team and club players a few years ago. The specifics slip my mind and it's exhausting trying to find the old reports over narrowband internet. Probably it was just a spate of coincidental accusations that are on no way reflective of a greater issue in French rugby than anywhere else. Apologies for any offence caused by my careless remarks.

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Post by GunsGerms Sat 09 Nov 2013, 8:28 pm

Maybe consider doing some research before posting pie in the sky allegations.

Also perhaps consider the source. A confessed gouger at club level isnt a reliable barometer for the attitude of the French at  international level.

Hope the hangover is gone. Enjoy the rugby.

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Post by GloriousEmpire Sat 09 Nov 2013, 11:27 pm

Hang over passing, thanks. I don't really need a lecture though thumbsup 

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Post by GunsGerms Sat 09 Nov 2013, 11:32 pm

GloriousEmpire wrote:Hang over passing, thanks. I don't really need a lecture though thumbsup 
Fair enough your probably right there.

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Post by GloriousEmpire Sat 09 Nov 2013, 11:35 pm

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