England v New Zealand match thread

[quinsforever]

First topic message reminder :

2.30pm at Twickenham on Saturday.

Betfair has england 5:1 against. Sounds about right to me.

Are NZ wearing black this time? I hope so. don't think France or anyone else found the Haka quite the same performed in what looked like white gym T-shirts.

My prediction, fwiw (and i know that's not much), NZ to win by 6, england to dominate at scrums, lineouts 50:50, 60% possession England but Joubert tough (but predictable and consistent) on holding on means isolated possession gives NZ the scoring edge from penalties, and NZ classically more clinical with open/broken field possession.

Really looking forwards to it though.

Anyone going?

[ChequeredJersey]

OK. Let's make a list then, oakey.

1. You
2. Duty
3. Chris Robshaw
4. Mike Catt
5. Mick Jagger
6. Sir Ian Botham

anyone else?

Hopefully Lancaster

[Bathman_in_London]

To be honest I've never seen mystiroakey and Sir Beefy in a room at the same time, so maybe take one name off that list...

[Cumbrian]

OK. Let's make a list then, oakey.

1. You
2. Duty
3. Chris Robshaw
4. Mike Catt
5. Mick Jagger
6. Sir Ian Botham

anyone else?

The Honey Monster bleeds white, I reckon he will be pretty optimistic too.

[mystiroakey]

Robshaw and Duty!

I heard more hyperbole yesterday that made me laugh.

Not only did certain Kiwis state they were the best rugby team ever- there also stated there were the best sporting team ever!!

I am sorry they couldn't even come close to be put in Spains(football) bracket.

Spain is a team that won 3 major tourneys on the spin and within a sport where 200 nations play the game and 100 of them play it as there no.1 sport.

Silly Kiwis.. Rugby Union is only played seriously by a handful of teams.. (I am not trying to diminish this great sport- but just trying to add some perspective)

[mystiroakey]

To be honest I've never seen mystiroakey and Sir Beefy in a room at the same time, so maybe take one name off that list...

I already said we might lose the up coming Ashes!!

Beefy would never say that dude!

[Nachos Jones]

One thing is for sure, England will not allow the AB's as much room in attack as they normally get so I can see a very close game but with the AB's just edging it.

[doctor_grey]

The mantra for the rest of the weekend

We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat. They do not exist.

Full Stop

[Geordie]

Add me to the list.

IF we play with last Saturdays 1st half intensity for 80 mins from our pack and a bit of common sense from our backs (ie Farrell moving the ball with his hands a bit more and not his foot) then i think we could push them close enough to get a win.

Every cog must work correctly..ie forwards carrying correctly, quick ball, putting players through gaps etc...which we have shown we ARE capable of just very sporadic showings of it....

Its a big ask but hey there is a possiblity.

One things for sure...if the players walk out on the pitch thinking they'll get beat...THEY WILL. They need to go out saying they're just another rugby team...we can take this game to them!

[Cowshot]

I think the last time I recall us getting absolutely taken apart was Croke Park. So if we are clobbered it's not as if it hasn't happened before and it wasn't the end of the world. You learn a lot about who will and who won't in that situation and Joe Worsley went up markedly in my estimation. A very new Strettle, too.

And we might catch them cold. No matter what they say about being out to make a statement a hint of complacency might be creeping in and then who knows? If, as seems much more likely, we're on the receiving end of a tonking then I'll be watching to see who stands up in the broken places.

Fascinating game.  

[Luckless Pedestrian]

I liked what I heard Lancaster say the other day about England's recent record, especially at home. It's not just the All Blacks who'll be defending an unbeaten run tomorrow.

[Pal Joey]

I know.

How about distracting them after dinner tomorrow night with a Mexican band playing an up tempo version of "Better Be Home Soon"?

This will play on their minds for sure... after the heavy defeat of their All Black football team.

Then, it's just figuring a way for Betsy the Maid to get into the hotel rooms and carefully sprinkle the itching powder.

[Duty281]

England to win 33-28 - 4 tries to 3 in favour of England.

We'll just score more!

What's on the menu? Chile peppers for tonight, New Zealand lamb for tomorrow afternoon, then Frogs legs for the evening.

En-gerrrr-laaaaaaanddddddd!

[Hound of Harrow]

Don't get me wrong from my earlier posts. I sincerely hope England win and I expect us to win every game. We do have some key players missing for this game though, and a pretty raw midfield.

[kiakahaaotearoa]

That's it boys, get your support behind the boys now because after the game that's when they'll need it the most.  

[sirtidychris]

Don't get me wrong from my earlier posts. I sincerely hope England win and I expect us to win every game. We do have some key players missing for this game though, and a pretty raw midfield.

I would change the word raw for something biltong would delete...lets go with another 4 letter word then...pants

[Scrumpy]

Only on the Beeb, take a look at the team line ups at the bottom of the page.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/24949390

[quinsforever]

i was watching Monsters University with my boy yesterday, and 1 line in particular caught my attention...

overconfident monsters says "after you lose, no-one will remember you"

underdog (undermonster) replies "but when you lose, no-one will let you forget it"

so i understand why all the AB supporters are bricking it  

[maestegmafia]

Only on the Beeb, take a look at the team line ups at the bottom of the page.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/24949390

I wonder how long it will be before they change that?

[Scrumpy]

Biased Beeb.

[mystiroakey]

biased??

They made an error dude

[BamBam]

What was/is it?

[mystiroakey]

They have the Wales and Argentina teams underneath an england/nz article

[mystiroakey]

Or should I say HAD, as it has just updated to Eng NZ

[Scrumpy]

it would have been nice to see George North in his native England shirt.

[Duty281]

it would have been nice to see George North in his native England shirt.

Oh no he didn't!

[mystiroakey]

Norfolk to Anglesey!!

and people wonder why he is freakishly big  

[BigWilly]

NZ by 30... no norovirus this year to hold them back

[Bullsbok]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-2507452/SIR-CLIVE-WOODWARD-Jonny-Wilkinson-better-Dan-Carter.html

Sir clive woodward comes up with some of the most ridiculous things sometimes

[GloriousEmpire]

Yep there's a whole other thread on it.

[Toohey]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-2507452/SIR-CLIVE-WOODWARD-Jonny-Wilkinson-better-Dan-Carter.html

Sir clive woodward comes up with some of the most ridiculous things sometimes

Ahh someone else who's attention span can't get them past the headline.

[Hound of Harrow]

Ah well this could be prophetic. I'm drinking a beer called Wakatu; brewed with a single NZ hop variety.

There's nothing like downing a Kiwi.

[stub]

Ah well this could be prophetic. I'm drinking a beer called Wakatu; brewed with a single NZ hop variety.

There's nothing like downing a Kiwi.

I do hope so Hound....

Well I'm nervous. Excited but nervous nonetheless. The injuries are a worry as is the "motivation" that NZ have for this - not that they need that in reality. BUT.. I always think that England are at their best against opposition they fear (no disrespect or arrogance to anyone else intended) and that they will die trying tomorrow if that's the way it needs to be. As someone else said - if England fail tomorrow let's look for the players who stand up to be counted and let's learn from the experience.

Anyway time for a drink I think - haven't got any Kiwi beer (hard to come by in Worcestershire) but we may have some Kiwi wine to down.

Come on England!!  

[Cumbrian]

It might be a bit melodramatic but:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv0A-8DnWg8

 

[mystiroakey]

So what Cumbrian - Great song!

[Cumbrian]

Can't beat a bit of Johnny Thunders or Barry Mcguire for that matter.

[stub]

It might be a bit melodramatic but:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv0A-8DnWg8

 

Like it - but what we need is a White Riot!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzXkbV4lEKU

[Cumbrian]

Let's hope the England lads don't:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3Yl4ehzX-o

[stub]

Let's hope the England lads don't:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3Yl4ehzX-o

Nah - I'm sure they're going to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15FfWj11uys

 

[Cumbrian]

Well hopefully it won't be a:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WhhSBgd3KI

here at 5pm tomorrow!

[stub]

Well hopefully it won't be a:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WhhSBgd3KI

here at 5pm tomorrow!

 
 
Where is (the completely reformed (?)) GE?

[Cumbrian]

He's worried so he's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE1ct5yEuVY

[stub]

Well let's hope he is and we get this at Twickenham:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3C7DECI0jU

 

[quinsforever]

i am particularly looking forwards to a bit of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVsYJjaAvFI

during the

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eybwV2OFaWg

capped off by a sweet, yet highly unlikely victory, and then reading all about it thusly the next day...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eybwV2OFaWg

[quinsforever]

I put GE's temporary reformation down to i) small but nerve-wracking possibility of AB loss ii) he has promised to show up to pre-xmas 606 drinks next week.

good man  

[mystiroakey]

I just cant get in to any other sport before this clash lads. I am phsched for it!

England about to play football and it seems dead to me..

THIS GAME IS HUGE AND WE WILL BE.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04854XqcfCY

[quinsforever]

great WUMs think alike mysti  

[mystiroakey]

Was that supposed to be your last link dude??

You double pasted the haka  

[quinsforever]

muppet i am. yet that was supposed to be my last one... 

[stub]

Well, I think we've won the singing at least.

Unless this does it for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQOlwMKpmvQ&playnext=1&list=AL94UKMTqg-9AvpAR04EjXwBQdVQlXDboF

[doctor_grey]

England, Land of Hope and Glory.

Never give in,
No retreat
No nuthin:
Just Rock n Roll: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4J54_MvGL0

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