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Post by quinsforever Sun 10 Nov 2013, 10:12 pm

First topic message reminder :

2.30pm at Twickenham on Saturday.

Betfair has england 5:1 against. Sounds about right to me.

Are NZ wearing black this time? I hope so. don't think France or anyone else found the Haka quite the same performed in what looked like white gym T-shirts.

My prediction, fwiw (and i know that's not much), NZ to win by 6, england to dominate at scrums, lineouts 50:50, 60% possession England but Joubert tough (but predictable and consistent) on holding on means isolated possession gives NZ the scoring edge from penalties, and NZ classically more clinical with open/broken field possession.

Really looking forwards to it though.

Anyone going?

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Post by maestegmafia Sat 16 Nov 2013, 11:46 am

stub wrote:This thread has taken a bit of an unfortunate turn! Shocked 
I think that the milk turned and ruined the thread.

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Post by Cowshot Sat 16 Nov 2013, 11:54 am

doctor_grey wrote:
stub wrote:This thread has taken a bit of an unfortunate turn! Shocked 
How about if we turn it to how to get the kiwi ladies drunk and willing after the England victory?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYlDbv7MqE8
I heard somewhere that performing a one on one Haka for them can have the most remarkable results. Maybe you could try that? angel 

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Post by stub Sat 16 Nov 2013, 11:55 am

maestegmafia wrote:
stub wrote:This thread has taken a bit of an unfortunate turn! Shocked 
I think that the milk turned and ruined the thread.
Yes, less milk more rugby!

Who brought up the whole Baileys thing anyway? Whistle 

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Post by maestegmafia Sat 16 Nov 2013, 12:10 pm

Stub your recommendation was booked up so I got us a table at the bar grill place on the green... Looks. Pretty good too. Cheers for your help.

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Post by stub Sat 16 Nov 2013, 12:17 pm

You're welcome Maes and I'm glad you're sorted. Hope that you have a great time and that the match is a cracker!

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 12:19 pm

They showed the scores of the previous NZ England games from 2004 to the present

It was not good viewing. The enormity of this task is starting to hit me

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 12:19 pm

stub wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:
stub wrote:This thread has taken a bit of an unfortunate turn! Shocked 
I think that the milk turned and ruined the thread.
Yes, less milk more rugby!

Who brought up the whole Baileys thing anyway? Whistle 
Blame the Saffas

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Post by Rugby Fan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 12:24 pm

mystiroakey wrote:They showed the scores of the previous NZ England games from 2004 to the present

It was not good viewing. The enormity of this task is starting to hit me
I was watching 1983 Twickenham as an antidote. Blimey, that doesn't wear well as a spectacle. Can't find 1993 online, which I recall being a tastier confrontation, especially after the losing Lions series. Jamie Joseph's indiscretion on Bracken's ankle sticks in the memory. If Matt Mullan has to come on, hope he does even half as well as Nigel Redman in that game, who was also a late call-up.

I'd like to suggest this drink is a whole new level of hell compared with coffee cream liqueurs:

http://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/P-18609.aspx

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Post by Nachos Jones Sat 16 Nov 2013, 12:32 pm

Well, good luck to the English boys today. It will not be a shock if they win but I cant really see it. Funny thing is though, if England had a full strength team I would say they would be favourites at home today.

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Post by stub Sat 16 Nov 2013, 12:38 pm

Rugby Fan wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:They showed the scores of the previous NZ England games from 2004 to the present

It was not good viewing. The enormity of this task is starting to hit me
I was watching 1983 Twickenham as an antidote. Blimey, that doesn't wear well as a spectacle. Can't find 1993 online, which I recall being a tastier confrontation, especially after the losing Lions series. Jamie Joseph's indiscretion on Bracken's ankle sticks in the memory. If Matt Mullan has to come on, hope he does even half as well as Nigel Redman in that game, who was also a late call-up.

I'd like to suggest this drink is a whole new level of hell compared with coffee cream liqueurs:

http://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/P-18609.aspx
Unfortunately out of stock RF!

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Post by GloriousEmpire Sat 16 Nov 2013, 12:42 pm

Right I'm off. Good luck England fans. Good luck NZ fans. Good luck both teams.

Let's hope it's a high quality game that lives up to its billing and the best team on the day wins.

Go you rampaging unstoppable All Blacks.

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Post by Cowshot Sat 16 Nov 2013, 12:44 pm

I think we can be confident that Lancaster has the team in a better mental frame of mind than I am looking at the game. He's top notch at that sort of thing. It's asking a lot to get lightning to strike twice, but he's putting up as good a conductor as can be found, I think.

Nonetheless. I expect I'll be watching a lot of this from between my fingers. But there IS a chance. boxing


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Post by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 12:47 pm

Yep tried that drink before- My parents used to allways have sheridans

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Post by wrfc1980 Sat 16 Nov 2013, 12:54 pm

A real shame England are missing soe key petrol. With the I feel the game was in the balance. Without them will probably win.

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 12:55 pm

Cowshot wrote:
doctor_grey wrote:
stub wrote:This thread has taken a bit of an unfortunate turn! Shocked 
How about if we turn it to how to get the kiwi ladies drunk and willing after the England victory?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYlDbv7MqE8
I heard somewhere that performing a one on one Haka for them can have the most remarkable results. Maybe you could try that? angel 
Sadly, my Haka would last only a minute or so. On the other hand, who cares?

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 12:59 pm

Off the the pub. 08:00 over here.
Hoping for a happy.
Good match to all.

New England anthem, Rock n roll all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1Hb9ABpyts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OWMB3ewpNM

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Post by Cowshot Sat 16 Nov 2013, 1:09 pm

Not me mate. But bear it mind should the situation arise. Wink  (And I must watch Blazing Saddles again!)

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 1:11 pm

Ok England fans, what is an effective 'win' for you?

A good performance immaterial of the score

a close loss

a draw

or a WIN only!

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Post by Rugby Fan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 1:29 pm

I'm finding this Rugby League quarter final between Australia and USA is an unsatisfactory way of counting down to kick-off at Twickenham.

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Post by stub Sat 16 Nov 2013, 1:36 pm

mystiroakey wrote:Ok England fans, what is an effective 'win' for you?

A good performance immaterial of the score

a close loss

a draw

or a WIN only!
 
Gotta be a win or draw Mysti. thumbsup


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Post by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 1:37 pm

this whole rugby league is only just about to kick off(once england play NZ in one semi and then the winner of that plays AUs!!

I did try to watch the games- but its like watching men v boys or boys v boys

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Post by Nachos Jones Sat 16 Nov 2013, 1:41 pm

I have started to appreciate Rugby League. Its actually entertaining, well except for the scrums which seem totally pointless.

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Post by Taylorman Sat 16 Nov 2013, 1:46 pm

Good luck to both sides and to Carter on his 100th test match.


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Post by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 1:49 pm

Good luck guys!

For me, I want an 80 minute performance. We're not there yet to demand a win, so I can accept a narrow loss.

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Post by Nachos Jones Sat 16 Nov 2013, 1:54 pm

If England can keep their discipline but compete physically then they will certainly push the AB's.

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Post by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 1:55 pm

Does Hanson have a sense of humour or is he still peed at the newspapers?

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Post by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:07 pm

NZ over twice as many caps. Eek!

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Post by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:09 pm

I'm going for 35 - 15 go NZ

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Post by Nachos Jones Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:12 pm

nathan wrote:I'm going for 35 - 15 go NZ
I think that it will be a low scoring game. I am going for Eng 12 - 17 NZ.

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Post by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:13 pm

First 5 minutes are going to tell us how it will fold out.

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Post by Nachos Jones Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:16 pm

True but I do think that under SL, England are a lot fitter than before and will play hard the full 80. Gone are the days when England would switch off and allow sides like the AB's run away with the match in the last 20mins.

As an Irish fan, I am not looking forward to them playing this England.

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Post by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:18 pm

Nachos Jones wrote:True but I do think that under SL, England are a lot fitter than before and will play hard the full 80. Gone are the days when England would switch off and allow sides like the AB's run away with the match in the last 20mins.

As an Irish fan, I am not looking forward to them playing this England.
Would love to agree, but the last two games we've only put 40 performances in. We're in with a chance if we can finally put in 80 minutes.

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Post by Nachos Jones Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:21 pm

England always up themselves for SH teams, especially the AB's. Going to be a very interesting match.


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Post by Taylorman Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:24 pm

Well according to Hansen they're fit and well, have trained well, and are looking to straighten their attack lines from last week. Team has been buzzing for this all week.
Get into them boys!Yahoo 

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:24 pm

England want to build a fortress Twickenham but will it be like a Jimi Hendrix song and end up being another Castle in the Sand or can they build on the fortifications of last year?

Grey, freezing, rainy day in Madrid. Perfect rugby viewing weather.

May the better team win.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:27 pm

"As an Irish fan, I am not looking forward to them playing this England"

what does that even mean?

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Post by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:29 pm

Sounded like someone had a banjo at the start of that anthem!

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Post by Nachos Jones Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:29 pm

mystiroakey wrote:"As an Irish fan, I am not looking forward to them playing this England"

what does that even mean?
That means that I think England are much better than the Irish at the moment and could potentially give Ireland a hiding.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:30 pm

Nothing wrong with a bit of banjo(listening to munford over this dreary anthem!)

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Post by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:30 pm

mystiroakey wrote:"As an Irish fan, I am not looking forward to them playing this England"

what does that even mean?
He's not looking forward to Ireland playing england

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:30 pm

Nachos Jones wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:"As an Irish fan, I am not looking forward to them playing this England"

what does that even mean?
That means that I think England are much better than the Irish at the moment and could potentially give Ireland a hiding.
Worry about aus first dude!


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Post by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:31 pm

Nice legs... and she's a rugby player.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:32 pm

Time for the dance

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:32 pm

Where is gary barlow and that irish dude when you need judges?

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Post by Nachos Jones Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:33 pm

mystiroakey wrote:
Nachos Jones wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:"As an Irish fan, I am not looking forward to them playing this England"

what does that even mean?
That means that I think England are much better than the Irish at the moment and could potentially give Ireland a hiding.
Worry about aus first dude!

Sorry, I guess its not the place to pay compliments to the English side...

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Post by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:33 pm

Nice for my nephew to EE the all blacks slitting throats...

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Post by Taylorman Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:33 pm

Ha ha. Stupid crowds scared of them already singing that stupid swing low. Hope they get skinned.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:34 pm

Nachos Jones wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:
Nachos Jones wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:"As an Irish fan, I am not looking forward to them playing this England"

what does that even mean?
That means that I think England are much better than the Irish at the moment and could potentially give Ireland a hiding.
Worry about aus first dude!

Sorry, I guess its not the place to pay compliments to the English side...
??

no please crack on. Just not sure what you meant.. There are a few teams better than you.. England doesn't have to be the benchmark

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Post by Geordie Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:34 pm

I prefer silence for the Haka...show a bit of respect. Don't like singing sweet chariot through it...

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Post by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:34 pm

Taylorman wrote:Ha ha. Stupid crowds scared of them already singing that stupid swing low. Hope they get skinned.
Wouldn't say scared! Lol

Good luck Taylor!

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