England v New Zealand match thread

by quinsforever Sun 10 Nov 2013, 10:12 pm

First topic message reminder :

2.30pm at Twickenham on Saturday.

Betfair has england 5:1 against. Sounds about right to me.

Are NZ wearing black this time? I hope so. don't think France or anyone else found the Haka quite the same performed in what looked like white gym T-shirts.

My prediction, fwiw (and i know that's not much), NZ to win by 6, england to dominate at scrums, lineouts 50:50, 60% possession England but Joubert tough (but predictable and consistent) on holding on means isolated possession gives NZ the scoring edge from penalties, and NZ classically more clinical with open/broken field possession.

Really looking forwards to it though.

Anyone going?

by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:35 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:I prefer silence for the Haka...show a bit of respect. Don't like singing sweet chariot through it...

the haka deserves no respect, the All blacks are a different matter though

by Taylorman Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:35 pm

nathan wrote:Nice for my nephew to EE the all blacks slitting throats...

They've yet to watch the English backs...a more horrid sight.

by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:35 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:I prefer silence for the Haka...show a bit of respect. Don't like singing sweet chariot through it...

Screw it, it's too protected.

by Nachos Jones Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:35 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:I prefer silence for the Haka...show a bit of respect. Don't like singing sweet chariot through it...

Don't agree, I think that the English fans singing adds to the atmosphere myself.

by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:36 pm

Feick what just happened

by Cowshot Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:37 pm

Uh oh. Could be a loooong afternoon.

by Taylorman Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:37 pm

nathan wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:I prefer silence for the Haka...show a bit of respect. Don't like singing sweet chariot through it...
Screw it, it's too protected.

Ha ha..screw it...read...savea. long day swing low.

by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:37 pm

SINKING FEELING

by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:37 pm

What was Dickson doing?

This is going to test the attitude of this England team!

by Geordie Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:38 pm

Going to be a long afternoon...class play by Reid...

by Artful_Dodger Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:39 pm

Great stuff from Read. Best no.8 in the world by a distance at the minute.

by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:39 pm

Taylorman wrote:
nathan wrote:Nice for my nephew to EE the all blacks slitting throats...
They've yet to watch the English backs...a more horrid sight.

Yeah but that's easy to explain!

by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:40 pm

Ashton narrow

by Cowshot Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:41 pm

Penalty - it's a start.

by Taylorman Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:42 pm

nathan wrote:
Taylorman wrote:
nathan wrote:Nice for my nephew to EE the all blacks slitting throats...
They've yet to watch the English backs...a more horrid sight.
Yeah but that's easy to explain!

Is it? I've benn watching them for decades and I can't explain it.good luck with that.

by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:43 pm

Cowshot wrote:Penalty - it's a start.

Build build build

by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:44 pm

Taylorman wrote:
nathan wrote:
Taylorman wrote:
nathan wrote:Nice for my nephew to EE the all blacks slitting throats...
They've yet to watch the English backs...a more horrid sight.
Yeah but that's easy to explain!
Is it? I've benn watching them for decades and I can't explain it.good luck with that.

Stop being a muppet, you know exactly what I mean.

by Cowshot Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:45 pm

Interested to see how the Lawes Launchbury pairing goes. And good to see England fighting to some effect.

by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:45 pm

Hmmm, are the all blacks targeting Ashton?

by Taylorman Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:46 pm

Sorry I don't. You pick on the throat slit thing like any Muppet showing your ignorance. Your nephew won't give a stuff about the gesture. Grow up.

by Geordie Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:47 pm

AB's showing the young England lads the intensity and tempo they need to match if they want to be the best...great experience for them...I hope they keep battling and going...

by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:47 pm

Taylorman wrote:Sorry I don't. You pick on the throat slit thing like any Muppet showing your ignorance. Your nephew won't give a stuff about the gesture. Grow up.

Oh I'm glad you know my nephew personally and know what he thinks about it. Stop being so precious about it.

by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:48 pm

OH cCOME ON

by Cowshot Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:48 pm

Cruel game sometimes.

by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:49 pm

Ab off their feet?

by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:49 pm

Foden was so sure of that as well. gutting, how long doies an advantage need to go on for

by 21st Century Schizoid Man Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:50 pm

Ea -aw Foden laughing

by Geordie Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:50 pm

Yeah sometimes the length of advantage isn't consistant..but that's the way it goes. Play to the ref...

by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:51 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Yeah sometimes the length of advantage isn't consistant..but that's the way it goes. Play to the ref...

+1

by Geordie Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:52 pm

21st Century Schizoid Man wrote:Ea -aw Foden

Its difficult to hear in an atmospheric stadium...not an issue at Murrayfield...

by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:52 pm

I am not blaming the ref if that's what you are inferring.

by Nachos Jones Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:52 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Yeah sometimes the length of advantage isn't consistant..but that's the way it goes. Play to the ref...

Totally agree, it can be frustrating but you have to play the ref.

by Taylorman Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:52 pm

Carter limping already. Got his cap. Can have a rest now.
Good stuff ABs. Holes in this English defence all over the field.

by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:53 pm

I thought we might have been able to dominate the scrum. Clearly not

by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:54 pm

Think this is going to be a slaughtering.

by Geordie Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:54 pm

Read is quite special...the AB's are another level to Australia and Argentina...

by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:54 pm

Our defensive line is just woeful

by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:55 pm

Point a minute

by Nachos Jones Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:55 pm

Read is something else isn't he.

by Geordie Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:56 pm

Im looking to see how these young lads face up to this challenge now...lets see their character..

by Otagolad Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:56 pm

Awesome start AB's - loving the scrums

by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:57 pm

Surely reed pulled it down?

by Taylorman Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:57 pm

nathan wrote:
Taylorman wrote:Sorry I don't. You pick on the throat slit thing like any Muppet showing your ignorance. Your nephew won't give a stuff about the gesture. Grow up.
Oh I'm glad you know my nephew personally and know what he thinks about it. Stop being so precious about it.

You brought them both up...looks like the throat slitting didn't stop at the haka. Its still going...ha ha.enjoy the rest of the match.

by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:58 pm

Taylorman wrote:
nathan wrote:
Taylorman wrote:Sorry I don't. You pick on the throat slit thing like any Muppet showing your ignorance. Your nephew won't give a stuff about the gesture. Grow up.
Oh I'm glad you know my nephew personally and know what he thinks about it. Stop being so precious about it.
You brought them both up...looks like the throat slitting didn't stop at the haka. Its still going...ha ha.enjoy the rest of the match.

I just said they were dancing, hoping he doesn't start it at school though lol

by Geordie Sat 16 Nov 2013, 2:59 pm

We need something here now...demoralising if we come away without even 3 points after all this...

by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:01 pm

That looks like a try - the ball is on the floor - but then he slides over

by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:01 pm

No way is that not a try as the commentators are saying

by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:02 pm

Win some lose some, should of been a try though!

by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:02 pm

Common sense needed by the tmo

by Geordie Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:02 pm

You cant award that..we'd be fuming if it was against us...

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