England v New Zealand match thread

by quinsforever Sun 10 Nov 2013, 10:12 pm

First topic message reminder :

2.30pm at Twickenham on Saturday.

Betfair has england 5:1 against. Sounds about right to me.

Are NZ wearing black this time? I hope so. don't think France or anyone else found the Haka quite the same performed in what looked like white gym T-shirts.

My prediction, fwiw (and i know that's not much), NZ to win by 6, england to dominate at scrums, lineouts 50:50, 60% possession England but Joubert tough (but predictable and consistent) on holding on means isolated possession gives NZ the scoring edge from penalties, and NZ classically more clinical with open/broken field possession.

Really looking forwards to it though.

Anyone going?

by Taylorman Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:03 pm

Good effort england. Unlucky too many crowding the view. Try that time.

by Otagolad Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:03 pm

Good try England

by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:03 pm

Not sure about that one!

by Geordie Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:03 pm

Regardless...im beginning to like the Launchbury Lawes combo in the engine room...that could be one to take us quite far...

by Nachos Jones Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:04 pm

One of those 50/50 calls but it was the right call in the end. Sometimes they go for you and sometimes they don't.

by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:04 pm

Offside

by Cowshot Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:04 pm

Well now!

by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:04 pm

NO IT IS A TRY! Very Happy

by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:04 pm

If this isn't a try, surely it should be a yellow.

by Taylorman Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:05 pm

Robson was offside and touched the ball. Rubbish.

by Geordie Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:06 pm

Great stuff...good character by the England lads.

Debate over the try...well no offence was committed and all teams have had them given or not given ....

by Nachos Jones Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:07 pm

Great stuff from England, they were in danger of getting steam rolled. Great character being shown here.

by Taylorman Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:07 pm

All class england. Spit splat splutter to the line. Awesome. Carter off. Back to the cotton wool.

by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:07 pm

Feel so sorry for carter.

by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:09 pm

Taylorman wrote:All class england. Spit splat splutter to the line. Awesome. Carter off. Back to the cotton wool.

They've done well to impose the pressure, all blacks now on a warning.

by Cowshot Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:10 pm

2nd row is an area we are good in I think, with these two Attwood and Parling. But these two provide some real oomph it looks like. And we've scored a try and doing well in the forwards. A lot of minimum requirement boxes ticked so far.

Now hang onto the pill and hammer them!

by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:10 pm

COME ON ENGLAND KEEP THIS UP!!

by BamBam Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:10 pm

Tomkins arghh

by Geordie Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:11 pm

After worrying about a cricket score this has now become a fascinating one ...ball in hand AB's look sublime, but close in we're looking pretty good now that we've settled.

How long can we play at this pace though...that's the big question for me...

by ALPanorak Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:12 pm

The England backs are hindering the team. Forwards are combating the All Blacks impressively

by Nachos Jones Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:12 pm

England really do miss Tuilagi.

by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:12 pm

By about 15cm? Lol

by Geordie Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:13 pm

Agree our backs are still a huge concern...

by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:13 pm

Nachos Jones wrote:England really do miss Tuilagi.

We do indeed!

by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:13 pm

Stupid penalty to give away

by Taylorman Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:13 pm

Cowshot wrote:2nd row is an area we are good in I think, with these two Attwood and Parling. But these two provide some real oomph it looks like. And we've scored a try and doing well in the forwards. A lot of minimum requirement boxes ticked so far.

Now hang onto the pill and hammer them!

Good luck with that. Open play will be the end of england. Too many holes out wide. DCs injury completely expected. He's falling apart with the amount of rugby he's played. Real shame that.

by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:14 pm

Brown needs a lot more of the ball

by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:15 pm

BIN HIM

by Nachos Jones Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:15 pm

Taylorman wrote:
Cowshot wrote:2nd row is an area we are good in I think, with these two Attwood and Parling. But these two provide some real oomph it looks like. And we've scored a try and doing well in the forwards. A lot of minimum requirement boxes ticked so far.

Now hang onto the pill and hammer them!
Good luck with that. Open play will be the end of england. Too many holes out wide. DCs injury completely expected. He's falling apart with the amount of rugby he's played. Real shame that.

Disagree, I think England can play very good rugby in open play.

by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:16 pm

We need to score points now.

by Taylorman Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:16 pm

Another stupid call. Messam was over the ball.

by Geordie Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:16 pm

Taylorman, cant you at least give a little credit to a young England pack showing a lot of Character and really taking it to the AB's?

We all know our backs are a major concern...hopefully they are working on that...

by Nachos Jones Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:17 pm

Hhmm, not sure about that binning...

by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:17 pm

Taylorman is seriously worried that the best team in any sport ever could get beat again!!

WE are keeping up with this team even with a 'weak' back

by Taylorman Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:17 pm

What! Joubert you clown. Surely a ret row if he didn't do the quick throw correctly.geez.

by BamBam Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:18 pm

That line out call goes unpunished about 3 times a game every weekend

by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:18 pm

You think Taylor's bad, you wait till ge rocks up.

by Cowshot Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:19 pm

This is starting to be more than just gaining respectability. We are actually threatening in the forwards by the sound of it. Dominant, even!

by Geordie Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:19 pm

Ahhhh for god sake man our backs are shocking. Our forwards must despair...if our backs were decent we'd be ahead in this game...

by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:19 pm

Taylor isnt bad, we are just all reacting in the game..

by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:20 pm

BamBam wrote:That line out call goes unpunished about 3 times a game every weekend

But they do normally make an effort to move out of the field of play. He didn't move at all.

by Nachos Jones Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:20 pm

England really are just a decent set of centres away from beating the AB's.

by nathan Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:21 pm

mystiroakey wrote:Taylor isnt bad, we are just all reacting in the game..

Sorry didn't he was bad, meant if you think he's bad then.....

by ALPanorak Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:21 pm

New Zealand are suffering from this ill-discipline, almost like they're trying too hard to obliterate England hence all the penalties conceded. It's certainly not pretty from England but kudos to them for hanging in there

by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:21 pm

FARRELL

when it counts! great kick

by Taylorman Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:21 pm

mystiroakey wrote:Taylorman is seriously worried that the best team in any sport ever could get beat again!!

WE are keeping up with this team even with a 'weak' back

Not in the slightest mysti. Its the margin I'm so far disappointed with. England are boringly grafting their way back into it I have to agree. Just thankful I don't have to support that lot every test. Soooo thankful.

by BamBam Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:21 pm

What I would do to have Tuilagi out there for the second half. Forwards are doing really well, wish we had Manu to smash some holes

by Geordie Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:21 pm

Im pleased for Marler so far...think me Yappy and CJ were the only ones who backed him in this game...and he's showing he is capable of challenging Corbs and Mako for that spot...

by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:22 pm

WE haver totally switched this game up.. Great stuff

by Cowshot Sat 16 Nov 2013, 3:22 pm

Drop goal?

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