Does Welsh Crushing Win Put AI's In Perspective?

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Wow. Wales were just awesome. Neutered Aegentina up front as England did and then trampled them with creative and intensely accurate finishing.

That underlines their position as 6n champs and the best team in Europe as far as I'm concerned.

If we look at the rest of the results in balance, it just takes me back to those few bad calls that helped England out in that Australia game. How different the complexion might be of this AI if Brown had been called in touch correctly, and Hartley's obstruction correctly penalised?

England have managed just one try in the backs aside from those efforts. A true indictment of their return to traditional pommy rugby.

Wales alone stand as a beacon of progressive modern rugby by my account. Let's hope their front line players return from injury soon so that we can see a true test of the contrasting styles in the 6N.

I understand that the Dragons is not the most attractive option, either for the team or the lifestyle (!), but hopefully Lyn and Kingsley will be an attraction for some players, and perhaps if we do do a little better this season, maybe beating another region to the 3rd welsh spot (if that will have any bearing next season in Europe) then just maybe some talent sitting on regional benches will want to join us.

ospreysboyo wrote:England were never going to win that game, they had no attacking flair in the backs at all, the NH need to stop being happy with being plucky losers. I was absolutely gutted that we lost to SA last week, as I think we could have won. England fans should be gutted, NZ were rattled and they couldn't finish them off. I don't understand why the England fans are so happy, they thrashed NZ last year, surely they have gone backwards this year? Reading the papers this morning, you'd think they had won yesterday, this is a symptom of NH rugby atm, we are too happy to stay the brave loser!!!

I agree with some of that OB but the reason us English fans are so happy is because yesterday England put together a really good performance imo that pushed the blacks hard. Up to 60 minutes I was beginning to hope for the unthinkable. And maybe with an improved set of backs and a couple of other additions we can get even closer to them in the Summer. Who knows?

As for Wales I hope you can put in a performance that will overcome the Aussies - I think you will and I think that this will show that the NH are moving in the right direction at least.

RDSguru wrote:

Biltong wrote:Debating whether one team is better than another because team A beat team C by more than team B is a poorly concieved argument.

If you use this reasoning then England are in fact the second best team in the world as they came closest to New Zealand this year.

Ummn, no, that would be France

Maybe BB felt that the English pushed NZ closest this year? Despite the scoreline...

Griff wrote:Would love to see Rhodri Jones come to the Dragons if he's unable to break into the Scarlets team more often. The Scarlets will want depth at TH, but if this lad is playing in the prem then he's being wasted a bit. It would help the Dragons out, give the player Pro rugby exposure and help develop another option for the Wales team.

What i siaf the other day. He needs game time and is clearly not in favour with us, it would be a shame to let him go but it's best for him.

stub wrote:

RDSguru wrote:

Biltong wrote:Debating whether one team is better than another because team A beat team C by more than team B is a poorly concieved argument.

If you use this reasoning then England are in fact the second best team in the world as they came closest to New Zealand this year.

Ummn, no, that would be France

Maybe BB felt that the English pushed NZ closest this year? Despite the scoreline...

No, I forgot France lost by only seven points.

Irrespective the point I was making is these comparative scores against the same opponent has little relevance.

Biltong wrote:

stub wrote:

RDSguru wrote:

Biltong wrote:Debating whether one team is better than another because team A beat team C by more than team B is a poorly concieved argument.

If you use this reasoning then England are in fact the second best team in the world as they came closest to New Zealand this year.

Ummn, no, that would be France

Maybe BB felt that the English pushed NZ closest this year? Despite the scoreline...

No, I forgot France lost by only seven points.

Irrespective the point I was making is these comparative scores against the same opponent has little relevance.

Agreed.

I agree that Wales are still a bit ahead of us. Definitely in the backs and probably a bit more power in the forwards, also lots more experience. I have a feeling that if/when Wales beat SA,AB or OZ the belief they get is going to make them very hard to stop. Probably still need a bit more creativity in the backs, but the same with us, only more so.

To GE. I quite enjoy some of your wums, but I honestly think you're embarrassing yourself a bit now. You seem obsessed with England. What gives?

Obsessed with? It was England v All Blacks just yesterday.
I don't see how posting a comment on it makes me obsessed. Or there are a lot of obsessed people here!