Fight Night Thread.

[hampo17]

First topic message reminder :

Massive night of boxing ahead. Whose in for the long haul and staying up for the Pacquiao vs Rios fight?

Rocky Fielding is up first on SBO at 6pm.

[Champagne_Socialist]

76-75 sounds about right to me, after the 6th round Groves looked to be on his way out, looking at the replay WTAF.

Sorry HH, how could you get a card anywhere close to that?  That means that without the knockdown you have the fight dead even.  Nonsense.

He is just trying to be controversial to try and WUM.

[Izzi]

That is the worst stoppage I have ever seen. Ever. Disgusting. Absolutely robbery.

That's a bit harsh. Groves for me was struggling, one more shot would've rendered him unconscious... therein lies the issue, should he have been given 5 more seconds to take a knee/clinch etc and then go on to win the fight or does he let him take a few more punches and suffer potential injury? Commentators need to shut up as well, 76-75 was a fair scorecard as there were 2 close rounds that I (and the judges) gave to Froch instead.

A poor poor stoppage, but lets not forget Groves was taking punishment. I just wanted to see more as I thoroughly enjoyed the fight beyond all expectations.

[Fernando]

You can tell by the face of Froch he knows he lucked out big style

[Hammersmith harrier]

76-75 sounds about right to me, after the 6th round Groves looked to be on his way out, looking at the replay WTAF.

Sorry HH, how could you get a card anywhere close to that?  That means that without the knockdown you have the fight dead even.  Nonsense.

Possibly 77-74 superfly but the 4th, 7th and 8th were clear Froch rounds for me while the 6th could have gone either way.

[Izzi]

76-75 sounds about right to me, after the 6th round Groves looked to be on his way out, looking at the replay WTAF.

Sorry HH, how could you get a card anywhere close to that?  That means that without the knockdown you have the fight dead even.  Nonsense.

He is just trying to be controversial to try and WUM.

Is what I had it. For me Froch edged a couple of the close rounds. Hence why one judge had it 78-73, I and HH had it like 2 of the judges as we awarded Froch the 2 close rounds.

Not being a WUM

[Izzi]

Feel sorry for Groves, guy looks totally devestated and may cry

[Happytravelling]

My opinion of Froch has just dropped. That was poor with Groves next to him.

[Sir. badgerhands]

Does Froch actually believe what he says.

[hampo17]

Froch seriously believe that was a good stoppage?

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Froch turning heel here

[horizontalhero]

It sounded like Froch is beginning to look old, he's 36, had far too many hard fights, and has always taken far too many punches. Time to pack it in.

[ShahenshahG]

Look froch was always a man sausage - even way back when - then he learned to be less of a man sausage while the cameras were on him and occasionally his normal bitter self would poke out with the spite against other fighters. Then he won against bute and mack and man sausage froch came back out again. Its nothing new.

[Sir. badgerhands]

Well Froch is a shoe-in for sports personality of the year.

[John Bloody Wayne]

The most annoying thing about that is that everyone will say the ref saved Froch, but I don't think he needed helping. Groves was getting taken out.

I only gave Froch 3 rounds. A rematch is necessary. Froch is being a Muppet in the interview tho! Groves winning fans.

[TopHat24/7]

if i were gg i'd sue. disgrace, either that ref was paid off or retarded, either way he should never ref again.

[Strongback]

78-73 to Groves was how I had it.

I think Froch was going to win because he was able to fight 12 hard rounds. Groves looked tired.

Froch won again by being a tough SOB. Groves would have KO'd plenty of top fighters with that display.

[jimdig]

Well Froch is a shoe-in for sports personality of the year.

Hahaha

[SweetScience]

Just like rocky 4 booed coming in cheered at the end, alright he lost but close enough

[Guest]

Eddie Hearn claims that the ref was right to stop the fight. Shock!

[Champagne_Socialist]

78-73 to Groves was how I had it.

I think Froch was going to win because he was able to fight 12 hard rounds. Groves looked tired.

Froch won again by being a tough SOB.  Groves would have KO'd plenty of top fighters with that display.

As we saw in the Perez HW fight it is not always best to be a touch SOB, being able to take heavy shots and stay on your feet and stay in the fight means you will take more heavy shots and that is not good for your brain.

[Hammersmith harrier]

The most annoying thing about that is that everyone will say the ref saved Froch, but I don't think he needed helping. Groves was getting taken out.

I only gave Froch 3 rounds. A rematch is necessary. Froch is being a Muppet in the interview tho! Groves winning fans.

This why I can't feel too aggrieved, Groves looked down and while it was premature he was going to get stopped eventually.

[superflyweight]

78-73 to Groves was how I had it.

I think Froch was going to win because he was able to fight 12 hard rounds. Groves looked tired.

Froch won again by being a tough SOB.  Groves would have KO'd plenty of top fighters with that display.

Can't say I've said this much recently, but I'm with Strongy on this.

[TopHat24/7]

Eddie Hearn claims that the ref was right to stop the fight. Shock!

he should hang himself too then

[jimdig]

Froch was starting to catch up, groves was getting a little sloppy, and looking unlikely to stop froch.

Still a terrible stoppage.

[Sir. badgerhands]

The most annoying thing about that is that everyone will say the ref saved Froch, but I don't think he needed helping. Groves was getting taken out.

I only gave Froch 3 rounds. A rematch is necessary. Froch is being a Muppet in the interview tho! Groves winning fans.

Likewise, a few will say Froch would have won as he was starting to turn the tide. However, we'll never know because of a truly shoddy decision by the ref.

Really falling out of love with this sport.

[rob-glos]

Don't think Groves should go for a rematch, not straight away anyway.

Can't see Froch fighting like that again and Groves could easily get a shot at Bika after that and that's a fight I think he'd win.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Terrible stoppage but groves shouldn't have got involved in that type of fight. He was bossing it

[Izzi]

78-73 to Groves was how I had it.

I think Froch was going to win because he was able to fight 12 hard rounds. Groves looked tired.

Froch won again by being a tough SOB.  Groves would have KO'd plenty of top fighters with that display.

Yeah agree that Froch was starting to get through and Groves was tiring. Without doubt I reckon Froch would've been wobbled as he tried to march through but would've got there in the 11th or so.

Amazing fight, one of those that you're proud to say you watched live

[Lance]

the ref was shocking from the beginning. it was very clear from the start who hearn had backed to win the fight, and the scorecards seem to say the same.

how many times did froch hit on the break? hit around the back of the head. he threw a forearm in and even a knee at one point. the ref only ever shouted break when groves was on top. froch being the cash cow was heavily favoured, the ref knew it and he did his job by taking the opportunity of getting froch a win he never deserved. disgrace.

and man of the people hearn wins by keeping his cash cow alive, and throws him straight into a high earning rematch

[seanmichaels]

78-73 to Groves was how I had it.

I think Froch was going to win because he was able to fight 12 hard rounds. Groves looked tired.

Froch won again by being a tough SOB.  Groves would have KO'd plenty of top fighters with that display.

Can't say I've said this much recently, but I'm with Strongy on this.

Poor stoppage but I'm with the oirish and the jock on this one. Groves was going, froch too powerful.

[ShahenshahG]

Don't think i'll watch that. Frak soured me to it

[Guest]

Adam Booth is seriously taking McCracken to task over the decision.

McCracken claims that Groves would have been seriously hurt had the fight continued.

Robbie boy has just outed himself as a mug.

[seanmichaels]

In the interview froch doesn't remember being knocked down in the first. Scary.

[Hammersmith harrier]

Adam Booth is seriously taking McCracken to task over the decision.

McCracken claims that Groves would have been seriously hurt had the fight continued.

Robbie boy has just outed himself as a mug.

Well he probably would have been, he was all over the place for much of the 9th, terrible stoppage but it was coming.

[Guest]

Carl Froch, the biggest heel turn since Shawn Michaels superkicked Marty jannetty through a barber shop window

[seanmichaels]

Adam Booth is seriously taking McCracken to task over the decision.

McCracken claims that Groves would have been seriously hurt had the fight continued.

Robbie boy has just outed himself as a mug.

Not seriously hurt but he was getting knocked out. Be a fickle football fan and make up a story but we all know what was going to happen.

[seanmichaels]

Adam Booth is seriously taking McCracken to task over the decision.

McCracken claims that Groves would have been seriously hurt had the fight continued.

Robbie boy has just outed himself as a mug.

Not seriously hurt but he was getting knocked out. Be a fickle football fan and make up a story but we all know what was going to happen.

[Gerry SA]

Eddie Hearn is a top sausage muncher...

Any further up Froch backside and Hearn could taste Froch's dinner from last night...

Hearn claiming Froch might not fight again.

In a rematch with Groves, Froch gets sparked.

In a rematch with Andre Ward, Froch gets sparked.

Froch = paper champion.

[Rodney]

Boxing most corrupt sport in the world, finished as a modern day fan. Abysmal officiating from start to finish , Groves was outstanding, Eddie Hearn should be investigated for one sided dangerous matchups followed by a referee that seemed to be in he's pocket.

On the plus side I won the sweep !!

Cheers Rodders

[Steffan]

BBC Radio 5 live

Carl Froch's trainer, Robert McCracken: "It was a good stoppage, George was badly hurt he couldn't continue. He did fantastically well, he's a great talent he's only 25 and his time will come again.

"Carl Froch showed what he was about and ground him down, but George did very well. Carl defended the titles massively well. I think people will see when they watch the replays how badly hurt George was. Carl has nothing left to prove he's stopped Groves."

[Izzi]

In the interview froch doesn't remember being knocked down in the first. Scary.

I wouldn't have remembered my 18th birthday, some years ago 'tis was, if I'd taken that punch. That's if my head was still on my shoulders.

BBBoC guy makes a valid point to a degree and ditto Froch, ref has to make a split decision there and then. Groves was badly hurt and do you want one punch less and everyone walks away or one punch that causes damage? BUT to counteract that these guys put everything on the line and he should've given him a few more seconds as his gloves were sort of up even if his legs had near totally gone

[Haito]

Poor stoppage but agree with most Groves was in real trouble. He was all over the place think Carl was on the verge of stopping him, should have been allowed to continue for sure though.

Poor from Froch afterwards and dont get me started on Jim Watt!!

[seanmichaels]

Eddie Hearn is a top sausage muncher...

Any further up Froch backside and Hearn could taste Froch's dinner from last night...

Hearn claiming Froch might not fight again.

In a rematch with Groves, Froch gets sparked.

In a rematch with Andre Ward, Froch gets sparked.

Froch = paper champion.

Good one div. you know sh1tE if you think groves wasn't getting knocked out there. Have a glass of water, rematch the round and come back when you have something sensible to say.

[milkyboy]

Groves got too macho, spent too much energy getting in a brawl when in my view if he'd stuck to plan he would have won.

Froch might well have stopped him legitimately if it had gone on, but groves has decent powers of recovery and froch was blowing and fightiing in spurts. It was no foregone conclusion. Was he any more hurt than froch in the first?

And the cards? 76-75? Only a froch luvvie or a paid off judge could score that. F***ing disgrace.

[Strongback]

the ref was shocking from the beginning. it was very clear from the start who hearn had backed to win the fight, and the scorecards seem to say the same.

how many times did froch hit on the break? hit around the back of the head. he threw a forearm in and even a knee at one point. the ref only ever shouted break when groves was on top.  froch being the cash cow was heavily favoured, the ref knew it and he did his job by taking the opportunity of getting froch a win he never deserved. disgrace.

and man of the people hearn wins by keeping his cash cow alive, and throws him straight into a high earning rematch

Agree 100% with what you're saying.

The fight also saved the PPV, the undercard was crap.

[hogey]

Froch was actually outclassed for most of that fight by a 19 fight novice, he should show some class and give Groves some respect because he was given a gift tonight.
Harrier if i remember rightly you had Froch almost level going into the 12th in the Taylor fight as well seriously you are letting your admiration for Froch blind you to the facts when he fights, tonight he was getting well beat even the rounds he might have won were subjective. For me he was miles behind and if he had not got Groves out of there with the refs help may have lost by very big decision.

[Izzi]

Groves got too macho, spent too much energy getting in a brawl when in my view if he'd stuck to plan he would have won.

Froch might well have stopped him legitimately if it had gone on, but groves has decent powers of recovery and froch was blowing and fightiing in spurts. It was no foregone conclusion. Was he any more hurt than froch in the first?

And the cards? 76-75? Only a froch luvvie or a paid off judge could score that. F***ing disgrace.

Again, there were clear rounds for both. There were also 2 close rounds that both judges, and a few of us here, gave to Froch. Missing the point though - Groves was about to get knocked out which kind of makes any claims of a biased ref/dodgy scorecards redundant.

[seanmichaels]

Groves got too macho, spent too much energy getting in a brawl when in my view if he'd stuck to plan he would have won.

Froch might well have stopped him legitimately if it had gone on, but groves has decent powers of recovery and froch was blowing and fightiing in spurts. It was no foregone conclusion. Was he any more hurt than froch in the first?

And the cards? 76-75? Only a froch luvvie or a paid off judge could score that. F***ing disgrace.

Who was hurt more, benn in the first or McClellan in the 10th?

[rob-glos]

Tell you what.... Richie Woodhall is showing himself to be a numpty here.

[Guest]

Adam Booth is seriously taking McCracken to task over the decision.

McCracken claims that Groves would have been seriously hurt had the fight continued.

Robbie boy has just outed himself as a mug.

Not seriously hurt but he was getting knocked out. Be a fickle football fan and make up a story but we all know what was going to happen.

Well next time you see a heavy favourite fall behind in the first half of a fight and then go onto to throw a few bombs upload an in-play betting screen, back the pre fight favourite and bobs your uncle.

You'll never be a slave for a wage again.

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