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Boxing Myths?
by D4thincarnation Tue 17 May 2011, 12:54
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Was reading about James Jeffries feats and found them very hard to believe.
Seem like the guy was more myth than man.
Stuff like he was super strong, run the 100 yard dash in 10.5 seconds, 6ft high jump, do his long runs with a deer on his back, dropped 100lbs in weight to fight Jack Johnson.
Now while some of this could be true it made me think of other myths in boxing which people believe.
But boxing is full of myths that take on a life of there own and then people believe them to be true.
What are examples of these?
Here are some that I can think of.
Willie Pep won a round without throwing a punch.
Buster douglas was a 42/1 underdog.
Dempsey did not want to fight Wills.
Ali took a pumpelling from Foreman on the ropes till the KO.
Ali had 5 minutes to recover from the Cooper knockdown to reaplace his glove
Was reading about James Jeffries feats and found them very hard to believe.
Seem like the guy was more myth than man.
Stuff like he was super strong, run the 100 yard dash in 10.5 seconds, 6ft high jump, do his long runs with a deer on his back, dropped 100lbs in weight to fight Jack Johnson.
Now while some of this could be true it made me think of other myths in boxing which people believe.
But boxing is full of myths that take on a life of there own and then people believe them to be true.
What are examples of these?
Here are some that I can think of.
Willie Pep won a round without throwing a punch.
Buster douglas was a 42/1 underdog.
Dempsey did not want to fight Wills.
Ali took a pumpelling from Foreman on the ropes till the KO.
Ali had 5 minutes to recover from the Cooper knockdown to reaplace his glove
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Re: Boxing Myths?
by ONETWOFOREVER Tue 17 May 2011, 17:17
The biggest myth in boxing and sport is or was the myth that was Harry Greb. He never existed, there is no footage of the man who was meant to be the greatest middleweight ever.He was made up.
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Re: Boxing Myths?
by HumanWindmill Tue 17 May 2011, 17:22
ONETWOFOREVER wrote:The biggest myth in boxing and sport is or was the myth that was Harry Greb. He never existed, there is no footage of the man who was meant to be the greatest middleweight ever.He was made up.
Sure, Tunney fought a ghost.
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Re: Boxing Myths?
by Union Cane Tue 17 May 2011, 17:23
D4thincarnation wrote:Union Cane wrote:I used to be a werewolf etc...
Wasn't there an amateur boxer who was an werewolf?
That was basketball.
http://whysoblu.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Teen-Wolf-fatty.jpg
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Re: Boxing Myths?
by Union Cane Tue 17 May 2011, 17:24
Union Cane wrote:D4thincarnation wrote:Union Cane wrote:I used to be a werewolf etc...
Wasn't there an amateur boxer who was an werewolf?
That was basketball.
http://whysoblu.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Teen-Wolf-fatty.jpg
You were right D4, he did boxing as well...
http://www.headinjurytheater.com/images/teenwolf2%20werewolf%20boxing.jpg
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Re: Boxing Myths?
by D4thincarnation Tue 17 May 2011, 17:33
Union Cane wrote:Union Cane wrote:D4thincarnation wrote:Union Cane wrote:I used to be a werewolf etc...
Wasn't there an amateur boxer who was an werewolf?
That was basketball.
http://whysoblu.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Teen-Wolf-fatty.jpg
You were right D4, he did boxing as well...
http://www.headinjurytheater.com/images/teenwolf2%20werewolf%20boxing.jpg
I wonder what the results were from the drug tests?
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Re: Boxing Myths?
by HumanWindmill Tue 17 May 2011, 17:36
D4thincarnation wrote:Union Cane wrote:Union Cane wrote:D4thincarnation wrote:Union Cane wrote:I used to be a werewolf etc...
Wasn't there an amateur boxer who was an werewolf?
That was basketball.
http://whysoblu.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Teen-Wolf-fatty.jpg
You were right D4, he did boxing as well...
http://www.headinjurytheater.com/images/teenwolf2%20werewolf%20boxing.jpg
I wonder what the results were from the drug tests?
Ha !
Very good.
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Re: Boxing Myths?
by Rowley Tue 17 May 2011, 17:40
D4thincarnation wrote:Union Cane wrote:Union Cane wrote:D4thincarnation wrote:Union Cane wrote:I used to be a werewolf etc...
Wasn't there an amateur boxer who was an werewolf?
That was basketball.
http://whysoblu.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Teen-Wolf-fatty.jpg
You were right D4, he did boxing as well...
http://www.headinjurytheater.com/images/teenwolf2%20werewolf%20boxing.jpg
I wonder what the results were from the drug tests?
There were none apparently he is scared of needles
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Re: Boxing Myths?
by Jukebox Timebomb Tue 17 May 2011, 17:48
The Mighty Atom wrote:Can't be a myth if you can't prove it didn't happen which you cannot, bitter about being shown as a liar
Jones going a round without getting hit, according to compubox this is true but when watching the Pazienza fight it's abundantly clear he hit gets hit about 7/8 times in what was the final round.
It was the 4th round he didn't get hit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNSJm0DUEoI&feature=related
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Re: Boxing Myths?
by Gerflagenflople Wed 18 May 2011, 16:35
I always thought the biggest Myth was that Rocky Balboa was a series of movies when they were in fact documentaries. 
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Re: Boxing Myths?
by D4thincarnation Wed 18 May 2011, 20:57
The term "pound-for-pound" was made for Sugar Ray Robinson, is another myth.
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Re: Boxing Myths?
by Scottrf Wed 18 May 2011, 22:39
Another of the many Bert Sugar helps perpetuate.D4thincarnation wrote:The term "pound-for-pound" was made for Sugar Ray Robinson, is another myth.
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Re: Boxing Myths?
by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Wed 18 May 2011, 22:57
Scottrf wrote:Another of the many Bert Sugar helps perpetuate.D4thincarnation wrote:The term "pound-for-pound" was made for Sugar Ray Robinson, is another myth.
When did it start then?
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Re: Boxing Myths?
by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Wed 18 May 2011, 22:59
Cheers I never knew that I beleived Bert Sugar on that one. 
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Re: Boxing Myths?
by D4thincarnation Wed 18 May 2011, 23:01
prettyboykev wrote:Scottrf wrote:Another of the many Bert Sugar helps perpetuate.D4thincarnation wrote:The term "pound-for-pound" was made for Sugar Ray Robinson, is another myth.
When did it start then?
Fitz & Canzoneri were called p4p by boxing writers of their day
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Re: Boxing Myths?
by D4thincarnation Wed 18 May 2011, 23:06
"Fitz was far and away the best fighting man, pound for pound, the game ever produced. Pound for pound he never had his equal." - Lima Daily News, Jan 1st, 1918
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Re: Boxing Myths?
by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Wed 18 May 2011, 23:07
Just goes to show that sometimes old Bert talks nonsense.
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Re: Boxing Myths?
by Scottrf Wed 18 May 2011, 23:12
Johnson, as good physically pound for pound as Burns
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=FS19090106.2.30
1911, describing P4P punching power
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=qhIiAAAAIBAJ&sjid=fnQFAAAAIBAJ&pg=6544,3044228&dq=pound-for-pound+boxing&hl=en
Kilbane 1917
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=DvwgAAAAIBAJ&sjid=mXUFAAAAIBAJ&pg=6510,2531715&dq=pound-for-pound+boxing&hl=en
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=FS19090106.2.30
1911, describing P4P punching power
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=qhIiAAAAIBAJ&sjid=fnQFAAAAIBAJ&pg=6544,3044228&dq=pound-for-pound+boxing&hl=en
Kilbane 1917
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=DvwgAAAAIBAJ&sjid=mXUFAAAAIBAJ&pg=6510,2531715&dq=pound-for-pound+boxing&hl=en
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Re: Boxing Myths?
by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Wed 18 May 2011, 23:36
Scottrf wrote:Johnson, as good physically pound for pound as Burns
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=FS19090106.2.30
Very strang to see a paragraph like that first one in a newspaper. Maybe not at the time but when you are used to modern media it's quite strange.
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