Mayweather vs Bradley........Comes before Manny !!
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Mayweather vs Bradley........Comes before Manny !!
Jmm gets stiffed off Manny in fight 1...............People clamor for Manny-Mayweather regardless...........
Bradley beats Manny.............Bradley beats Jmm................
If people accept JMM got stiffed off Manny.....and Manny didn't lose............Then Bradley didn't lose to Manny either !! RIGHT ????...After all Bradley-Manny was closer than JMM-Manny 1..........
So Bradley is the most deserving guy where Mayweather is concerned...........logic implies with wins over Manny and JMM........
After all Manny is 1-2...........anyway
Manny wants a fight get even with Bradley or JMM...............Or you don't get 50/50..........
Mayweather doesn't do sloppy seconds............for 50/50.
Bradley beats Manny.............Bradley beats Jmm................
If people accept JMM got stiffed off Manny.....and Manny didn't lose............Then Bradley didn't lose to Manny either !! RIGHT ????...After all Bradley-Manny was closer than JMM-Manny 1..........
So Bradley is the most deserving guy where Mayweather is concerned...........logic implies with wins over Manny and JMM........
After all Manny is 1-2...........anyway
Manny wants a fight get even with Bradley or JMM...............Or you don't get 50/50..........
Mayweather doesn't do sloppy seconds............for 50/50.
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That's where your agument falls flat on it's face, mate. The matchmakers don't operate using the same rationale as the rest of usTRUSSMAN66 wrote:Jmm gets stiffed off Manny in fight 1...............People clamor for Manny-Mayweather regardless...........
Bradley beats Manny.............Bradley beats Jmm................
If people accept JMM got stiffed off Manny.....and Manny didn't lose............Then Bradley didn't lose to Manny either !! RIGHT ????...After all Bradley-Manny was closer than JMM-Manny 1..........
So Bradley is the most deserving guy where Mayweather is concerned...........logic implies with wins over Manny and JMM........
After all Manny is 1-2...........anyway
Manny wants a fight get even with Bradley or JMM...............Or you don't get 50/50..........
Mayweather doesn't do sloppy seconds............for 50/50.
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I'll ignore the idiot....(hagler above Mayweather !! ).......You're right Dave............Logic and boxing don't mix..
But Bradley is the rightful pretender............
But Bradley is the rightful pretender............
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Why do you feel it's acceptable to label people who may not agree with you but who's views are valid (more so in most cases) idiots,?TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I'll ignore the idiot....(hagler above Mayweather !! ).......You're right Dave............Logic and boxing don't mix..
But Bradley is the rightful pretender............
That "topic" is total gibberish. It's nothing more than another of your surrepticious fluffing sessions.
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Stay off my thread......You're a joke.........
"Louis beat greats in Braddock, Baer and sharkey"........
"Louis beat greats in Braddock, Baer and sharkey"........
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Mayweather is fighting Khan next on the 3rd of May. It's the worst kept secret in boxing. Khan can't help himself talking about it and insiders are starting to tweet its happening.
It's all about the money, money, money.............
It's all about the money, money, money.............
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Again, misquoting. I don't need to do that with you. Your quotes are ridiculous enough.TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Stay off my thread......You're a joke.........
"Louis beat greats in Braddock, Baer and sharkey"........
And your threads need me. Someone needs to pop that unfounded ego of yours.
Fluffer.
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Bradley the most deserving but Khan brings the money, as does Pac.
Would like the Khan fight, at 147, reckon Khan could take a few early rounds if he's at his best, with Floyd taking over from the 4th and ko'ing him in the 10th.
Would like the Khan fight, at 147, reckon Khan could take a few early rounds if he's at his best, with Floyd taking over from the 4th and ko'ing him in the 10th.
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Haz, Truss cut it out lads. Fed up of the constant whinge fest that's been going on lately.
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Khan's promoter is more realistic.........
Stupid for people to criticise Floyd for accepting a lesser percentage than he deserves........
Boxing is a business..............Manny is just a stick for the modern-haters to beat him with..
because there is nothing else...........OH YES CASTILLO........
robbo lost to Turpin didn't he ??
Stupid for people to criticise Floyd for accepting a lesser percentage than he deserves........
Boxing is a business..............Manny is just a stick for the modern-haters to beat him with..
because there is nothing else...........OH YES CASTILLO........
robbo lost to Turpin didn't he ??
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Khan harder fight than Manny.......who JMM pancaked.....and who didn't beat JMM....and who Floyd owns......Khan fast......when was the last time Joe Louis fought a fast guy......Don Curry.....
Idiot.......
Idiot.......
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Hampo............If someone has Hagler above Mayweather.........Aren't they open to ridicule ??
Point taken though.........
Point taken though.........
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Please don't lump me together with him. I post reasonable comments only for clown shoes over there to start hurling insults.hampo171 wrote:Haz, Truss cut it out lads. Fed up of the constant whinge fest that's been going on lately.
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Jmm sparked Manny.......So he should come before him too..........
The only reason guys like Haz want Manny......Is because they know Arum won't make the fight because of 50/50..........and it means they can keep him down and give them a reason to keep Jack sharkey higher..
With all this ducker crap.
The only reason guys like Haz want Manny......Is because they know Arum won't make the fight because of 50/50..........and it means they can keep him down and give them a reason to keep Jack sharkey higher..
With all this ducker crap.
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Why would anyone ridicule someone for having a reasonable view?TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Hampo............If someone has Hagler above Mayweather.........Aren't they open to ridicule ??
Point taken though.........
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You came on to this thread and instead of debating the point, posted a stupid emoticon, and got a rise out of Truss.
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I couldn't care less if Floyd fights Pacquiao. Fight's too late now. I have no agenda against Floyd the fighter -- don't care for him on a personal level -- but I merely point out facts. You're the poster who takes criticism of him to heart (resulting in insults and public meltdowns).TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Jmm sparked Manny.......So he should come before him too..........
The only reason guys like Haz want Manny......Is because they know Arum won't make the fight because of 50/50..........and it means they can keep him down and give them a reason to keep Jack sharkey higher..
With all this ducker crap.
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I couldn't care If you care less..
your opinion is in the 1%-I-Love-the-past category.......
Mayweather isn't great but Braddock is........I should care about an opinion like that ??
your opinion is in the 1%-I-Love-the-past category.......
Mayweather isn't great but Braddock is........I should care about an opinion like that ??
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Khan gets embarrassed...Im sorry but I've seen a few people make videos online predicting that because of Khan's speed, he has a chance against Mayweather. His hands are faster etc etc.....correct me if I'm wrong, but does Prescott, Garcia, Peterson (even with pellets) and Diaz all suffer with Khan's fast hands?? Granted he beat Diaz, but was on chicken legs a few times in that fight and went down hard. It took Garcia 3 rounds to time Khan and figure him out, how long would Floyd take??
I actually like Khan and think he will still pick up a few belts here and there, but to put him in with Floyd is just a payday for him, he has absolutely no chance...none!!!!
I actually like Khan and think he will still pick up a few belts here and there, but to put him in with Floyd is just a payday for him, he has absolutely no chance...none!!!!
Re: Mayweather vs Bradley........Comes before Manny !!
Bradley is easily the most deserving and I reckon would cause Floyd the most problems.
Apart from the Provodnikov fight were Bradley got caught early and wasn't really the same throughout, the fact he took Alexander's speed and game away so well it made Alexander cry shows that he is a very tricky fighter.
I think Bradley has the best shot of beating Floyd.
Apart from the Provodnikov fight were Bradley got caught early and wasn't really the same throughout, the fact he took Alexander's speed and game away so well it made Alexander cry shows that he is a very tricky fighter.
I think Bradley has the best shot of beating Floyd.
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No one has a chance against Mayweather apart from Bradley..........
who no doubt will be coming up next..after Khan !!.......
Forget 160.........Mayweather is a superfeather!!.........Duran didn't fight Spinks......and rightly so !!
who no doubt will be coming up next..after Khan !!.......
Forget 160.........Mayweather is a superfeather!!.........Duran didn't fight Spinks......and rightly so !!
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Who's opinion is that? Certainly isn't mine.TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I couldn't care If you care less..
your opinion is in the 1%-I-Love-the-past category.......
Mayweather isn't great but Braddock is........I should care about an opinion like that ??
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Agreed.......Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Bradley is easily the most deserving and I reckon would cause Floyd the most problems.
Apart from the Provodnikov fight were Bradley got caught early and wasn't really the same throughout, the fact he took Alexander's speed and game away so well it made Alexander cry shows that he is a very tricky fighter.
I think Bradley has the best shot of beating Floyd.
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Another gem.TRUSSMAN66 wrote:No one has a chance against Mayweather apart from Bradley..........
who no doubt will be coming up next..after Khan !!.......
Forget 160.........Mayweather is a superfeather!!.........Duran didn't fight Spinks......and rightly so !!
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Who has a chance........MANNY ???........Must have been someone else I saw face down.......hazharrison wrote:Another gem.TRUSSMAN66 wrote:No one has a chance against Mayweather apart from Bradley..........
who no doubt will be coming up next..after Khan !!.......
Forget 160.........Mayweather is a superfeather!!.........Duran didn't fight Spinks......and rightly so !!
Marquez "Mayweather beats Manny easily"........
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Look Haz...Debate or sling it !!
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Look Haz...Debate or sling it !!
I do debate. You merely throw insults and spout nonsense. I don't even know what this thread's supposed to be about.
Oh, yes. Floyd fluffing.
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What point? There isn't one. If emoticons are barred, take them off the site. Seriously, where did you come from?hampo171 wrote:You came on to this thread and instead of debating the point, posted a stupid emoticon, and got a rise out of Truss.
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The most interesting aspect of Mayweather v Khan is whether Floyd can get his first proper KO since Hatton (2007).Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Khan gets embarrassed...Im sorry but I've seen a few people make videos online predicting that because of Khan's speed, he has a chance against Mayweather. His hands are faster etc etc.....correct me if I'm wrong, but does Prescott, Garcia, Peterson (even with pellets) and Diaz all suffer with Khan's fast hands?? Granted he beat Diaz, but was on chicken legs a few times in that fight and went down hard. It took Garcia 3 rounds to time Khan and figure him out, how long would Floyd take??
I actually like Khan and think he will still pick up a few belts here and there, but to put him in with Floyd is just a payday for him, he has absolutely no chance...none!!!!
There's glass chins and there's Hollywood glass chins. Hollywood glass being the stuff stuntmen use when jumping through plate glass windows.
Questions will be answered: How weak is Floyd's punching power and does Khan really have a Hollywood chin.
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Looks like a fun filled Friday on the board.
Bradley is certainly the most deserving, but much as I admire him I don't think he has much to trouble floyd with. Khan and manny both provide a problem for floyd to solve. I don't doubt he can solve them, but more interesting to me.
You used to slate Bradley truss... Has he won you over?
Bradley is certainly the most deserving, but much as I admire him I don't think he has much to trouble floyd with. Khan and manny both provide a problem for floyd to solve. I don't doubt he can solve them, but more interesting to me.
You used to slate Bradley truss... Has he won you over?
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In fairness Hampo, Truss is attaining almost D4 levels of WUM/nut-huggerry with this rubbish now. We dealt with D4 by having a 'Manny bin' where all his articles could be dumped, maybe we need one for Floyd so other better/more relevant articles (including those by Truss himself) can flourish on the main page.hampo171 wrote:Haz, Truss cut it out lads. Fed up of the constant whinge fest that's been going on lately.
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Yeh, funnily enough, just as the Ring elevated him to #3 p4p. Don't you remember the gloating self-serving thread dedicated to it?milkyboy wrote:
You used to slate Bradley truss... Has he won you over?
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The only reason Khan is getting a look is in that he's possibly able to influence the Middle East market and the billions that are waiting to be spent on something other than Premier League football.
The reason Manny gets a look in is that he's still a massive ticket shifter and there's potential for him to extract billions from the Chinese market who I believe are about to dip their toes into the PPV pond.
The reason Bradley doesn't get a look in has nothing whatsoever to do with him posing a threat (Alvarez was supposed to do that and look what happened, however, Alvarez was used to exploited the Mexican market) Quite simply Bradley offers nothing in the way of increased revenue which is all that interests Mayweather.
The reason Manny gets a look in is that he's still a massive ticket shifter and there's potential for him to extract billions from the Chinese market who I believe are about to dip their toes into the PPV pond.
The reason Bradley doesn't get a look in has nothing whatsoever to do with him posing a threat (Alvarez was supposed to do that and look what happened, however, Alvarez was used to exploited the Mexican market) Quite simply Bradley offers nothing in the way of increased revenue which is all that interests Mayweather.
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Reports are Manny v Rios did less than 500,000 PPV's. Uncle Bob won't be talking young Emannuelle back east again any time soon.DAVE667 wrote:The only reason Khan is getting a look is in that he's possibly able to influence the Middle East market and the billions that are waiting to be spent on something other than Premier League football.
The reason Manny gets a look in is that he's still a massive ticket shifter and there's potential for him to extract billions from the Chinese market who I believe are about to dip their toes into the PPV pond.
The reason Bradley doesn't get a look in has nothing whatsoever to do with him posing a threat (Alvarez was supposed to do that and look what happened, however, Alvarez was used to exploited the Mexican market) Quite simply Bradley offers nothing in the way of increased revenue which is all that interests Mayweather.
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I'd say Manny and Bradley are about neck and neck in terms of deserving the fight. Reasonable arguments either way would be fine with me.
Manny has tons more star power, brings much more revenue, etc, etc. It's also a more compelling storyline.
Then again, I agree that this thread seems to be another attempt to get a Floyd debate going. God knows why. Probably time for a 'Floyd is a great' single thread a la D4 and his 'Manny news'.
Manny has tons more star power, brings much more revenue, etc, etc. It's also a more compelling storyline.
Then again, I agree that this thread seems to be another attempt to get a Floyd debate going. God knows why. Probably time for a 'Floyd is a great' single thread a la D4 and his 'Manny news'.
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Doug Fischer, who sort of works for Golden Boy via Ring Magazine suggested last night that Mayweather would face Alvarez again before his Showtime deal is out.
I still feel GBP are bouncing about the Khan fight on social media -- convinced they check use to test the market. Alexander might get it yet (wouldn't be surprised to see him announced on Sunday).
I still feel GBP are bouncing about the Khan fight on social media -- convinced they check use to test the market. Alexander might get it yet (wouldn't be surprised to see him announced on Sunday).
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hazharrison wrote:Douf Fischer, who sort of works for Golden Boy via Ring Magazine suggested last night that Mayweather would face Alvarez again before his Showtime deal is out.
I still feel GBP are bouncing about the Khan fight on social media -- convinced they check use to test the market. Alexander might get it yet (wouldn't be surprised to see him announced on Sunday).
I think Khan's popularity particularly in the Muslim world means he brings a lot to the table. He's also easy meat for Floyd.
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Who isn't........
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Manny in 2008/09 when Floyd 'retired'.......
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So was Leonard in 82 when he retired.......Reckon Ali beats Floyd too...
Wally..
Wally..
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Not fighting a no name like Rios....chances are Floyd/Manny is a whole 'nother story and half a million ppv buys is still half a million....Strongback wrote:Reports are Manny v Rios did less than 500,000 PPV's. Uncle Bob won't be talking young Emannuelle back east again any time soon.DAVE667 wrote:The only reason Khan is getting a look is in that he's possibly able to influence the Middle East market and the billions that are waiting to be spent on something other than Premier League football.
The reason Manny gets a look in is that he's still a massive ticket shifter and there's potential for him to extract billions from the Chinese market who I believe are about to dip their toes into the PPV pond.
The reason Bradley doesn't get a look in has nothing whatsoever to do with him posing a threat (Alvarez was supposed to do that and look what happened, however, Alvarez was used to exploited the Mexican market) Quite simply Bradley offers nothing in the way of increased revenue which is all that interests Mayweather.
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The thread says he's more deserving...............Still think he's limited..Like Manny.TopHat24/7 wrote:Yeh, funnily enough, just as the Ring elevated him to #3 p4p. Don't you remember the gloating self-serving thread dedicated to it?milkyboy wrote:
You used to slate Bradley truss... Has he won you over?
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I will be more than happy if Bradley is his next fight. certainly beats a match up against Khan
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Maybe Bradley deserves it but I would rather see Bradley v Khan and Mayweather v Pacquiao
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If Mayweather is so far head and shoulders above Manny as you keep telling us, what are you worrying for ?
You seem absolutely petrified if Mayweather faces him, as a boxing fan it's pathetic you want the best matchups to happen, but this is another thread of please Floyd don't fight Manny in case you get hurt.
Who cares about Bradley v Floyd it's got as much appeal as a Johnny Nelson v James Waring rematch , you'll be telling us Lenny Daws deserves the fight before Manny next.
Cheers Rodders
You seem absolutely petrified if Mayweather faces him, as a boxing fan it's pathetic you want the best matchups to happen, but this is another thread of please Floyd don't fight Manny in case you get hurt.
Who cares about Bradley v Floyd it's got as much appeal as a Johnny Nelson v James Waring rematch , you'll be telling us Lenny Daws deserves the fight before Manny next.
Cheers Rodders
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Spot on.Rodney wrote:If Mayweather is so far head and shoulders above Manny as you keep telling us, what are you worrying for ?
You seem absolutely petrified if Mayweather faces him, as a boxing fan it's pathetic you want the best matchups to happen, but this is another thread of please Floyd don't fight Manny in case you get hurt.
Who cares about Bradley v Floyd it's got as much appeal as a Johnny Nelson v James Waring rematch , you'll be telling us Lenny Daws deserves the fight before Manny next.
Cheers Rodders
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We must be old school Haz mate.
Cheers Rodders
Cheers Rodders
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Just been told on another thread that as I don't rate modern fighters as highly as some on here my views shouldn't be taken seriously. Wow. Some forum this one!Rodney wrote:We must be old school Haz mate.
Cheers Rodders
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This truly is as vomit inducing as it comes.
Bradley vs Floyd is a complete stinker. Bradley clearly lost to Manny and offers nothing that would make the fight entertaining which is why we watch this sport.
I'm going to have to agree with Toppy here. We need a Floyd article where Truss can continually regurgitate his nauseating bile.
Bradley vs Floyd is a complete stinker. Bradley clearly lost to Manny and offers nothing that would make the fight entertaining which is why we watch this sport.
I'm going to have to agree with Toppy here. We need a Floyd article where Truss can continually regurgitate his nauseating bile.
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