Old Turnip head strikes again!

Wales beating England to retain the Six Nations was his highlight of the year.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/wales/25311978

  

Well he'd have to say that, as they havent beaten any of the SH teams...

Well, it was the stand out Welsh performance of the year

Its good to see Welsh rugby has moved on under Gatland.
"So long as we really embarrass England we can always whinge about the refs in other games"

Joking aside it was quite a highlight, what do you think Lancasters wouldve been if England had won? The Argentina tour?

Wales retain the 6N championship leads to Welsh coach in shock comment that it was his best moment of the year....   

Move on people!

Just goes to show how little the Lions tour meant to Gats imo.

I knew he didn't value the traditions of the Lions (you could tell from his team selections) this is why from now on the head coach must be from one of the home nations and not a mercenary.

Scrumpy wrote:Just goes to show how little the Lions tour meant to Gats imo.

I knew he didn't value the traditions of the Lions (you could tell from his team selections) this is why from now on the head coach must be from one of the home nations and not a mercenary.

Id rather the coach wasnt involved with one of the 4 nations to be honest. Too much opportunity for bias or claims of bias.

Id rather the coach wasnt involved with one of the 4 nations to be honest. Too much opportunity for bias or claims of bias.

I agree!

I suppose if you get coach of the year for Wales, you surely can't state your highlight was the Lions, can you?

Scrumpy wrote:Just goes to show how little the Lions tour meant to Gats imo.

I knew he didn't value the traditions of the Lions (you could tell from his team selections) this is why from now on the head coach must be from one of the home nations and not a mercenary.

How did his team selection (anymore so than the way SCW carried out hi tour) prove he didn't value the traditions. SCW even got rid of the concept of players sharing ffs.

Biltong wrote:I suppose if you get coach of the year for Wales, you surely can't state your highlight was the Lions, can you?

Can't you???     You didn't watch the Lion tour then ...and you certainly didn't get to hear the publicity attached to it.

By the Way...he wasn't officially coach of Wales during the 6N anyway, was he? So technically, he doesn't even deserve the award this year!   

Wales are the welsh team of the year? What next?

I feel sorry for Howley

SecretFly wrote:

Biltong wrote:I suppose if you get coach of the year for Wales, you surely can't state your highlight was the Lions, can you?

Can't you???     You didn't watch the Lion tour then ...and you certainly didn't get to hear the publicity attached to it.

By the Way...he wasn't officially coach of Wales during the 6N anyway, was he?  So technically, he doesn't even deserve the award this year!   

Fly,

Wumming aside it's a fair point.

article makes all those points pretty clear...

wins coach of the year (not Wales team coach of the year) so clearly is for lions

wasnt coaching the welsh team this 6N

and gatland said his highlight was "seeing" wales beat england, not "coaching" them. and howley does get mentioned.

"Wales coach Warren Gatland wins the BBC Cymru Wales coach of the year award for 2013.

But as he takes the award, Gatland tells the audience that seeing Wales beat England to retain the Six Nations was the highlight of the year.

Rob Howley, Gatland's assistant, was in charge at that time as the New Zealander prepared for what became a winning British and Irish Lions Test series against Australia.

Wales won team of the year at the awards ceremony in Cardiff."

if i were a welsh fan there is absolutely no question that wales team performance against england would be my highlight of the year purely for the way they played. obviously made sweeter by beating england and taking consecutive 6N title, but the way wales played was without qn their best performance of the year, by miles.

"Wales coach Warren Gatland wins the BBC Cymru Wales coach of the year award for 2013."

I hate that. 'BBC Cymru Wales.' Cymru = Wales. If you're speaking Welsh, say Cymru; if you're speaking English, say Wales. What's the point of saying it twice?

If you can't pronounce Cymru say Wales?

It reminds me of a town in Ireland that is historic and is known by its English name.  It has been named so on decades of brochures and literature.  But about 10 years ago, some people said it should be officially known by its more ancient Irish name.
Nobody seemed to be against the idea of the Irish name being used together with the English one.  But the proposers didn't want that, they wanted the English name taken off all road signs etc.

They got their way - and surprise surprise, tourists couldn't find it!  The townsfolk got annoyed at the silliness of it all and the English name was returned to the signposts.

Are people on drugs or just special?

Shocker: Wales coach accepting award for Wales coach of the year says Wales spanking England is his highlight (I take highlight to signify favourite moment as opposed to favourite achievement).

Jeez, the thickness of some people!

Knowsit17 wrote:Are people on drugs or just special?

Shocker: Wales coach accepting award for Wales coach of the year says Wales spanking England is his highlight (I take highlight to signify favourite moment as opposed to favourite achievement).

Jeez, the thickness of some people!

Headline readers see. Some people love to try stirring the pot. I wouldn't worry

Sir Warren Gatland wrote:Gatland was honoured for masterminding the first Lions series win for 16 years but for him watching Wales blow away the old enemy England to seal a second successive Six Nations title in March topped anything he experienced in Australia this summer.

“Wales beating England was the highlight,” he said. “The Lions was pretty special but I was sat in the Millennium Stadium that day.

“It was a great performance from the boys, ably led by Rob (Howley) and an amazing atmosphere. It was something I haven’t experienced before as a coach.

“I got more of a buzz out of that as a supporter and as a coach than if I’d been in charge that day.

“I knew the pressure Rob was under, particularly after the first game against Ireland, so to come out and scrape through a few games, build that momentum and then have that performance at the end of the tournament was testament to the players and the coaches.”

Think it's pretty fair really, given the context. It says a lot about his players' character etc and he doesn't take the credit for it.

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:"Wales coach Warren Gatland wins the BBC Cymru Wales coach of the year award for 2013."

I hate that. 'BBC Cymru Wales.' Cymru = Wales. If you're speaking Welsh, say Cymru; if you're speaking English, say Wales. What's the point of saying it twice?

Like every sign post in Wales....

Well not really. Those are written, one in Welsh and one in English, you choose which one you read (in theory). Saying BBC Cymru Wales is like saying, 'I'm going to Caerdydd Cardiff tomorrow' when Caerdydd isn't an English word. The 'Cymru' is superfluous in an English sentence because 'Wales' is already there.

ok so call it the BBC Cymru Coach of the Year award...

no wait, non-welsh speaking people might think he won it for coaching Cymru (whatever that is)

or just call if the BBC Wales Coach of the Year award...

no wait, the Plaid Cymru party and supporters would be up in arms...

People wonder why the regions and WRU are at each others throats when we cant even decide on one language?   

Well, in fairness he didn't have too much competition in Wales for coach of the year    

Interested what fans from the Lions nations actually perceive as their highlight of the year? Are there loads of Welsh fans out there for whom the Lions series was the highlight, never mind the rest of us?

My highlight was probably beating Wales, so I'd be something of a hypocrite if I laid into Gatland wouldn't I? It was a pretty unmemorable and disenchanting series despite the win. Second string Aussie teams in the midweek and warm-ups, one of the worst Barbarians games I've ever seen in my life in conditions that shouldn't have been played in, special guest stars flown in just to fill jerseys and stay on for the tour jollies and Test opponents in the worst form I've ever seen a Tri-Nations side in. Least not even bring up the selection debates.

I wish we could have had the Lions playing against Australia in November, or that Australia started the year in the same form they ended it. Would have been a better series.

It is weird that Gatland, as a coach, highlights a team he wasn't coaching at the time winning as his highlight. More of a personal than a professional highlight. Certainly not a very impartial Lions coach but I wouldn't criticise him for this. There's enoigh sticks to beat him with already!  

read a funny quote about the wru/regions participation agreement recently....

one region fan said he wished someone would wrap the new participation agreement around a nice big grenade and shove it up the musicman's arse!

(musicman is the derogatory reference to roger lewis who produced radio1 music shows before embarking on his current career of screwing up welsh club rugby)   

Sin é wrote:Well, in fairness he didn't have too much competition in Wales for coach of the year     

au contraire. michael laudrup.

Yeah, but imagine the uproar if he came out and said his highlight was 'being proved right about dropping O'Driscoll"

bet he was tempted though

Comfort wrote:Yeah, but imagine the uproar if he came out and said his highlight was 'being proved right about dropping O'Driscoll"  

If anything O'Driscolls form vs Davies form has proved him wrong.

I agree, Davies has been really, really poor since his injury!

Risca Rev wrote:

Knowsit17 wrote:Are people on drugs or just special?

Shocker: Wales coach accepting award for Wales coach of the year says Wales spanking England is his highlight (I take highlight to signify favourite moment as opposed to favourite achievement).

Jeez, the thickness of some people!

Headline readers see. Some people love to try stirring the pot. I wouldn't worry

Sir Warren Gatland wrote:Gatland was honoured for masterminding the first Lions series win for 16 years but for him watching Wales blow away the old enemy England to seal a second successive Six Nations title in March topped anything he experienced in Australia this summer.

“Wales beating England was the highlight,” he said. “The Lions was pretty special but I was sat in the Millennium Stadium that day.

“It was a great performance from the boys, ably led by Rob (Howley) and an amazing atmosphere. It was something I haven’t experienced before as a coach.

“I got more of a buzz out of that as a supporter and as a coach than if I’d been in charge that day.

“I knew the pressure Rob was under, particularly after the first game against Ireland, so to come out and scrape through a few games, build that momentum and then have that performance at the end of the tournament was testament to the players and the coaches.”

Think it's pretty fair really, given the context. It says a lot about his players' character etc and he doesn't take the credit for it.

Nothing new I know, hence the fact that it just grows more and more sad the longer it goes on. It's coming to the point where every time I log on and see the same miserable, obsessive, divisive BS I lose a bit more faith in humanity. This may be cliche and overstated but a disproportionate number of posters contribute nothing, only devote their memberships on this and the last 606 to antagonism. It has infested these boards to the point where I frankly get sickened and overwhelmed by the antisocial culture permeating much of the 'debate' that goes on. It is only tolerable for so long.

Comfort wrote:Yeah, but imagine the uproar if he came out and said his highlight was 'being proved right about dropping O'Driscoll"  

He could hardly say that when he said that BOD had proved him wrong (last Saturday).

It's good that the coach is also a fan of his team. It also shows how wrong it is to have a serving national coach as a Lion's coach. How can he objectively judge 30 players while accepting the dichotomy of supporting only half of them?

SecretFly wrote:If you can't pronounce Cymru say Wales?

It reminds me of a town in Ireland that is historic and is known by its English name.  It has been named so on decades of brochures and literature.  But about 10 years ago, some people said it should be officially known by its more ancient Irish name.
Nobody seemed to be against the idea of the Irish name being used together with the English one.  But the proposers didn't want that, they wanted the English name taken off all road signs etc.

They got their way - and surprise surprise, tourists couldn't find it!  The townsfolk got annoyed at the silliness of it all and the English name was returned to the signposts.

You're lucky you don't live in Whangarei or is it Wangarei followed by a decade of debate about whether it hosted Mount Parihaka or Mount Parahaki? How much money and time was wasted there I can't even count. Or the reprinting of highway signs for Taupo so it could gain a line over the a for no apparent reason other than looking more exotic for tourists. Gulliver is alive and well.

Scrumpy wrote:Just goes to show how little the Lions tour meant to Gats imo.

I knew he didn't value the traditions of the Lions (you could tell from his team selections) this is why from now on the head coach must be from one of the home nations and not a mercenary.

Mercenary…do you mean like a Tuilagi or a Vunipola x 2…domestic coaches have tried and failed to bring home the win, is Gatland any less a domestic coach because he is from NZ, he has been coaching in the UK and Ireland for over 10 years.

Just goes to show how much you know about the values and traditions of the lions if you consistently treat the winning coach with such a lack of respect for his achievement.

It was one hell of a thrashing too. 30-3 lest we forget. Fancy some more lemon juice?

Scratch wrote:

Scrumpy wrote:Just goes to show how little the Lions tour meant to Gats imo.

I knew he didn't value the traditions of the Lions (you could tell from his team selections) this is why from now on the head coach must be from one of the home nations and not a mercenary.

Mercenary…do you mean like a Tuilagi or a Vunipola x 2…domestic coaches have tried and failed to bring home the win, is Gatland any less a domestic coach because he is from NZ, he has been coaching in the UK and Ireland for over 10 years.

Just goes to show how much you know about the values and traditions of the lions if you consistently treat the winning coach with such a lack of respect for his achievement.

Again I ask the question, how does his team selection show he didn't value the traditions of the Lions in anyway more than SCW devalued (or nearly) the whole Lions concept.

Should like Gatland has suggested since there be quotas from the 4 Countries represented just to keep everyone happy even if its not the best team put on the field then.

Scratch wrote:

Scrumpy wrote:Just goes to show how little the Lions tour meant to Gats imo.

I knew he didn't value the traditions of the Lions (you could tell from his team selections) this is why from now on the head coach must be from one of the home nations and not a mercenary.

Mercenary…do you mean like a Tuilagi or a Vunipola x 2…domestic coaches have tried and failed to bring home the win, is Gatland any less a domestic coach because he is from NZ, he has been coaching in the UK and Ireland for over 10 years.

Just goes to show how much you know about the values and traditions of the lions if you consistently treat the winning coach with such a lack of respect for his achievement.

...and as a result is extremely bitter he keeps getting overlooked for the All Blacks job. *shrug*


That aside he was the right choice for the Lions.

What on earth has this got to do with Graham Taylor?

It just looks like One of HERSH's threads trying to find another reason to have a dig at Welsh rugby, their coaches and fans...!

Mae!

This is not a dig at Welsh rugby or its fans, but it may surprise you to hear that some rugby fans are fed up with Gatlands mind games and wumming at every opportunity he has.

The bloke is a 1st class Turnip and has the charisma to match one. Seeing as he was the Lions Coach he should show some respect to the other home nations, but I guess that wouldn't make him popular amongst the part time welsh rugby fans that fill these boards for a short time around the 6 Nations.

After the AI campaign he had he should be keeping his head down and count himself very lucky that the WRU don't have the bottle to sack him for Wales continued underachieving with the talented group of players that they have.

Scrumpy wrote: Mae!

This is not a dig at Welsh rugby or its fans, but it may surprise you to hear that some rugby fans are fed up with Gatlands mind games and wumming at every opportunity he has.

The bloke is a 1st class Turnip and has the charisma to match one. Seeing as he was the Lions Coach he should show some respect to the other home nations, but I guess that wouldn't make him popular amongst the part time welsh rugby fans that fill these boards for a short time around the 6 Nations.

After the AI campaign he had he should be keeping his head down and count himself very lucky that the WRU don't have the bottle to sack him for Wales continued underachieving with the talented group of players that they have.

Not surprised at all, you are constantly banging on about him...Gatland really gets to you scrimpy….not sure why you take it quite so personally or are so vociferous in your continual moaning about him though. This often happens to successful people, they become the subject of disdain from the jealous and envious. The only one who seems concerned with the part time fans who fill these boards seems, again, to be you.

Gats did show respect to the other Unions, he also won them a rare Lions victory, if anyone is deserving of respect for that achievement it is him.

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:

Scratch wrote:

Scrumpy wrote:Just goes to show how little the Lions tour meant to Gats imo.

I knew he didn't value the traditions of the Lions (you could tell from his team selections) this is why from now on the head coach must be from one of the home nations and not a mercenary.

Mercenary…do you mean like a Tuilagi or a Vunipola x 2…domestic coaches have tried and failed to bring home the win, is Gatland any less a domestic coach because he is from NZ, he has been coaching in the UK and Ireland for over 10 years.

Just goes to show how much you know about the values and traditions of the lions if you consistently treat the winning coach with such a lack of respect for his achievement.

...and as a result is extremely bitter he keeps getting overlooked for the All Blacks job. *shrug*


That aside he was the right choice for the Lions.

you know he is bitter? how?

IMO he has plenty to do prior to becoming NZ coach in 2015.

Scratch wrote:

Scrumpy wrote: Mae!

This is not a dig at Welsh rugby or its fans, but it may surprise you to hear that some rugby fans are fed up with Gatlands mind games and wumming at every opportunity he has.

The bloke is a 1st class Turnip and has the charisma to match one. Seeing as he was the Lions Coach he should show some respect to the other home nations, but I guess that wouldn't make him popular amongst the part time welsh rugby fans that fill these boards for a short time around the 6 Nations.

After the AI campaign he had he should be keeping his head down and count himself very lucky that the WRU don't have the bottle to sack him for Wales continued underachieving with the talented group of players that they have.

Not surprised at all, you are constantly banging on about him...Gatland really gets to you scrimpy….not sure why you take it quite so personally or are so vociferous in your continual moaning about him though. This often happens to successful people, they become the subject of disdain from the jealous and envious. The only one who seems concerned with the part time fans who fill these boards seems, again, to be you.

Gats did show respect to the other Unions, he also won them a rare Lions victory, if anyone is deserving of respect for that achievement it is him.

I don't think I'm the only one who doesn't like turnip head on 606v2   

Why is Gats now referred to as Turnip Head?

Some people are really petty if they let things like that frustrate them haha
+it's the truth, for a welsh supporters it was the best part of the rugby year because of our great performance.

People really can't have much going on in their life if they want to get annoyed about articles like this; grow up for Christ sake.

The Saint wrote:Why is Gats now referred to as Turnip Head?

Because he looks like a turnip. Simples.

I can't see Turnip when I look at him. I do actually and ironically see a Kiwi (fruit) though

That closely shaven dense spike look he has going on, much more Kiwifruit than Turnip.

englandglory4ever wrote:

The Saint wrote:Why is Gats now referred to as Turnip Head?

Because he looks like a turnip. Simples.

Gatland looks no more like a turnip than Stuart Lancaster looks like a carrot.

The Saint wrote:Why is Gats now referred to as Turnip Head?

Because Hersh is hilarious

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02176/Warren_Gatland_2176850b.jpg

http://www.irelandtravelkit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/turnip-580x435.jpg

Come on they could be brothers.