January Transfer Window 2014

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I'm gonna open this up now as I contemplate watching the shower of poop I'm about to watch.

What strong rumours have we heard? What do teams need? Where do you think the money will be spent?

I shall start you off with rumours surrounding Lambert maybe considering West Ham and similarly West Ham going to Spurs cap in hand to request a loan of Defoe or Adebayor (sources not so tight haha)

I'd say he's played his best on the right cutting inside personally, but, he's been very effective on the left also. He's such a talent I don't think it matters what wing he plays on.

I don't like wrong footed wingers personally, makes it a bit easier for the full back to know they will have cover from their centre halves.

Who in their right mind would put Evra left mid

Well its not that much of a left field suggestion. Played there for Monaco, get's forward and basically plays like a winger these days, decent cross as well and his defending has gone in a downward spiral in the last few seasons. At the same time, I would rather we buy a winger or even use Kagawa there if we have to but how many wingers are there available who are top class in Jan?

Snodgrass being the exception of course

You'd be more than welcome to Snodgrass he's been utter Poopie this season so far!

How's Redmond done? always liked him when he came on the scene at Birmingham

Liam wrote:How's Redmond done? always liked him when he came on the scene at Birmingham

Started off strong, but with the injuries I think he's been overworked (at one point he was our only fit winger)

Pretty clear he can take on a man, has good technical skills in his touch, skills, has pace obviously. Lacks decision making at the minute, that'll come with experience. Could do with work on his shooting, often kinda rushes his shots. I'm not sure he's ready to be a regular starter in the Prem, would tear people apart coming off the bench with 25/30 mins left atm!

Got potential to be a very good player, scary to think he's only 19

Final delivery was always the weak point in evras game I can't see any situation where he would play left wing.

I'd play Coentrao LW until Evra leaves. Easier introduction to the PL

Seems Anderson is undergoing a medical at Fiorentina. Shame, looked like he had the tools to be the business but never went anywhere

Given the manner of Coentrao's sending off a few days ago, I'd suggest Utd are plumping for a guy whose temper will cause them more hassle than they need at the minute

Given the manner of Eric Cantonas dismissal I'd suggest everybody was Kung Fu Fighting

DAVE667 wrote:Given the manner of Coentrao's sending off a few days ago, I'd suggest Utd are plumping for a guy whose temper will cause them more hassle than they need at the minute

I don't really understand the Coentrao deal. It's as if United are just covering themselves with an option for the summer with Coentrao, by taking him on loan & already agreeing a fee for the summer with Madrid. United don't need Coentrao massively, Evra is very capable as of this minute, yeah, he's declining but can perform a job until the summer. It's as if United or Woodward feel they need to be proactive with having Coentrao's deal in place, because they probably already feel that Baines is too old for the summer & Shaw will be poached by City or Chelsea, who are in stronger positions & may offer Champions League football. Remember, left backs are at a premium & is a difficult position to fill, therefore putting this Coentrao deal in place, just covers them & gives them the first option on him, if he is a success.

As for playing Evra left midfield. Christ. That's all I can say.

socal1976 wrote:Keep reading that Draxler is coming to Arsenal and in January. But another attacking midfielder it just doesn't make much sense. Also don't know if he is worth 37 million pound. The midfield is already crowded but the reports of this deal just don't seem to go away and in fact some are saying he will be coming in 48 hrs and so on. He has stated he would love to come to Arsenal but how is that going to work with the current mix of players and the fact that I hear he is injured.

Think the purpose of signing Draxler is to convert him into a foward.

Coentrao also doubles as a more than handy winger, which when Ashley Young is getting games, is a need

Why not just buy a ready made forward though? For the money they are considering spending on draxler they could surely afford one!

I doubt hes going to play up front immediately, hes a premier talent though

Wenger is a total football man. Draxler like most of his players are comfortable on the ball. Can pass and finish. Good signing if it comes off.

Wenger has a different philosophy to others. People keep forgetting that fact.

Its why I'm rooting for Arsenal to win the title Myst. Be nice for a club to build around a philosophy and win big as opposed to just throwing money at it.

Liam wrote:Which is a shame for Baines as his performances warrant a move to a club such as utd.

I think coentrao can be a success. Utd like their full backs to get forward as often as possible so will suit his game down to the ground.

He's not been playing that badly has he?

Bertrand on loan to Villa. Good prospect but I worry his development may have stalled at Chelsea

MIG wrote:

Liam wrote:Which is a shame for Baines as his performances warrant a move to a club such as utd.

I think coentrao can be a success. Utd like their full backs to get forward as often as possible so will suit his game down to the ground.

He's not been playing that badly has he?

If you read it properly, he was referring to the shame about his age, hindering the big move. United probably feel they will miss out on Shaw too, therefore are being pro-active in securing Coentrao.

John wrote:

MIG wrote:

Liam wrote:Which is a shame for Baines as his performances warrant a move to a club such as utd.

I think coentrao can be a success. Utd like their full backs to get forward as often as possible so will suit his game down to the ground.

He's not been playing that badly has he?

If you read it properly, he was referring to the shame about his age, hindering the big move. United probably feel they will miss out on Shaw too, therefore are being pro-active in securing Coentrao.

He was joking, saying that you have to be playing badly to move to United.

Tis a joke Johnny

GSC wrote:Bertrand on loan to Villa. Good prospect but I worry his development may have stalled at Chelsea

 
Happy with that, as you say good prospect.
 
Heard we have stopped the race to sign Steven Defour. Could have done with him to.

Just what Villa needed, a young player! Good player though, but such a Lambert move.

Such is Lamberts philosphy. Has its pros and cons but he has to stick with it

Does he? He could bring in spattering's of experience in a couple more areas and that team to me would prosper

He has to do it his way or he might as well not bother.

Not to mention with Villas finances, experience of the requisite quality tends to be pricey

What we need is an experienced midfielder.
 
Hoolhan is still being touted about.
He's better than what we have, but not brilliant.
  
 
Its easier said than done to bring this player in, that player in.
 
Lambert will do it his way and why would'nt he. He's the manager after all.
But does'nt mean the fans have to like it.
 
I dont know what's going on with our chairman.
I read that he's only been to 2 games this season.
Showing alot of interest there in the club.

Shane Long completes his move to Hull.

Near enough 14m spent on strikers. Wonder if they could've done better mind

GSC wrote:Its why I'm rooting for Arsenal to win the title Myst. Be nice for a club to build around a philosophy and win big as opposed to just throwing money at it.

Yep agreed.

Wenger is only interested in paying big if the player has it all.

You would never find him paying 27 mill for a fellani or a soldado.

Arsenals balance sheet is the most real out of any other clubs.. They could sell ozil or draxel later and break even even if they do not massively perform..

GSC wrote:Its why I'm rooting for Arsenal to win the title Myst. Be nice for a club to build around a philosophy and win big as opposed to just throwing money at it.

Disagree with that. They spent 40 million on Ozil (Who hasn't be worth it) when you spend that kind of money, you are throwing money at winning a league. Yes its not like Chelsea or City spending, but there both in a league of there own.

I would like to see Arsenal winning it, because unlike Chelsea and City they were actually bringing through Young English talent, which at the end of the day is what we all want, Walcott, Chamberlin, Jenkinson, Whilshere, Gibbs, more coming through as well.

Ozils a world class player at his peak playing for a major club. Such is the going rate

They paid for Ozil, yeah. But what they arnt doing is buying loads of 8 mill pound players to fill the rest of the team. As you say they are instead bringing through the youth..

If the player is of high class (overall footballing skills) they have bought. BUt they rarely do..

And that is why I like arsernal. For all the reasons..

Philosophy,

bringing up English players

only paying large on proven quality

GSC wrote:Ozils a world class player at his peak playing for a major club. Such is the going rate

At Madrid Ozil is world class and one of the best in the world, behind Messi, Ronaldo, Bale and Iniesta.

But for Arsenal he hasn't played like a 40 million pound player IMO. Only have to look at the game at Old Trafford, when he was in Phil Jones back pocket.

second most assists in the league.

only behind Rooney.

He is doing fine

We only have to look at 1 game when a player was settling into a new club in a new league as opposed to an entire career to judge a player. Never minding that United set out to stop Ozil and co playing that day.

mystiroakey wrote:second most assists in the league.

only behind Rooney.

He is doing fine

7 is hardly blowing the world away for a player of his abilty playing in one of the best attacking teams, chris brunt is only two behind as is zabelata whos a right back. navas has been a bit part player for city and he's only one behind

http://espnfc.com/stats/assists/_/league/eng.1/barclays-premier-league?cc=5739

Arsenal bought most of those young English players.

This is why I don't like arsenal being near the top of the league, people talk absolute crap about the club like they are doing something mad out of left field.

Wengers philosophy was to pay teenagers 30k a week with the second highest wage bill in the league until the new money clubs came along and it meant all arsenals best players left and they haven't won anything in nearly a decade.

We had all this fawning in 2008 and the won nothing and then did nothing for 5 years.

compelling and rich wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:second most assists in the league.

only behind Rooney.

He is doing fine

7 is hardly blowing the world away for a player of his abilty playing in one of the best attacking teams, chris brunt is only two behind as is zabelata whos a right back. navas has been a bit part player for city and he's only one behind

http://espnfc.com/stats/assists/_/league/eng.1/barclays-premier-league?cc=5739

He's created 48 chances for Arsenal only Hazard & Silva have more in the PL. The only reason the assists is at 7 is because as many people keep pointing out we need a "World Class" Forward.

What do you slightly annoyed United fans think of Morrison?

Do you think he should have been loaned out instead of sold?

Seems crazy that they didnt tbh!

I mean is the exact fit for what you need

he's more trouble than he's worth to be honest, he's only been at west ham five minutes and from the rumours there already problems. dont think he will ever reach his full potential because of his attitude

ok what about this then. The lad just wants to play. and Moyes wont even loan him!!

"Manchester United Wilfried Zaha was reported to have stormed away from the club's training ground on Thursday after manager David Moyes refused to sanction a loan move during the January window.

Zaha has made only two substitute Premier League appearances since completing his move to Old Trafford in the summer and it had been expected the former Crystal Palace would be loaned this month."

compelling and rich wrote:he's more trouble than he's worth to be honest, he's only been at west ham five minutes and from the rumours there already problems. dont think he will ever reach his full potential because of his attitude

Not many west ham fans have an issue with him though. Most think he is head and shoulders above anyone else.

I think he is a little bit lazy if truth be told. BUt still is exceptional.

I also heard if a team offers 10m plus for him. His wages at West ham go from 15m to 60m!!!

I think Moyes is probably worried that he'll let Zaha go on loan and he'll do really well making him look a fool. Easier to let him sit on the bench.

I would sack Moyes.

Give him back to everton for martinez...and take Barkley , get Morrison back and play zaha.

Then they have a pucker team..

mystiroakey wrote:

compelling and rich wrote:he's more trouble than he's worth to be honest, he's only been at west ham five minutes and from the rumours there already problems. dont think he will ever reach his full potential because of his attitude

Not many west ham fans have an issue with him though. Most think he is head and shoulders above anyone else.

I think he is a little bit lazy if truth be told. BUt still is exceptional.

I also heard if a team offers 10m plus for him. His wages at West ham go from 15m to 60m!!!

no offence to west ham but were nothing like this current west ham team, he probably is there best player but thats not exactly hard at the minute. instead of him januzaj has come through instead, which im more than happy with

Junazi plays in a different position .

Morrision would be playing instead of cleverly mate.

mystiroakey wrote:Junazi plays in a different position .

Morrision would be playing instead of cleverly mate.

dont think he's defensive enough for a cm role in a 4-4-2, he's a am who needs support behind him. i believe januzaj best position is central and i doubt moyes would have brought both through to the first team at the same time. he's hardly been known for throwing youth in. rooney was a obvious exception, but most everton fans i know have been screaming for barkley to be given a chance under moyes. its only under martinez where he's been given a proper shot at first team football