January Transfer Window 2014

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I'm gonna open this up now as I contemplate watching the shower of poop I'm about to watch.

What strong rumours have we heard? What do teams need? Where do you think the money will be spent?

I shall start you off with rumours surrounding Lambert maybe considering West Ham and similarly West Ham going to Spurs cap in hand to request a loan of Defoe or Adebayor (sources not so tight haha)

Crimey wrote:To be fair have any English teams been penalised by it?

FFP just won't apply to the big clubs as UEFA will be worried about them breaking off.

think they have only come into play this season, and teams who are struggling get 3 years to sort themselves out. according to city and chelsea they can meet the rules. its all dogdy anyway as city have a massive sponsorship from there owners company

cant see how psg will meet them though even with a few dodgy sponsers, the money in france for tv rights etc is no where near that of what the english receive. as well as other income being much higher over here

FFP is just to protect the elite anyway.

Daily Mail seems to think we're taking another Sunderland flop in Danny Graham

FFP kicks in next October. 

QPR, Blackburn and Forest could potently face fines of up to 50 million pounds.

Joe Kinnear saying Cabaye going nowhere now. Will rumble on this story.

I get why PSG want Cabaye , he is french and he is playing well.

But that is a team that wants to compete at the highest level. Not sure if they need a player of that stature. I am not sure he is good enough.

Man U on the other hand could do with him and I have no idea why they haven't been tapping him up.

have Man U gone for anyone?

Cabaye is superior to Thiago Motta, Verrati hasn't set the world alight in Paris, Pastore is hugely overrated, Matuidi has not signed a new deal. Definitely room for him & he`s good enough, seeing as he`s a starter for France.

I think we should sell, especially for £21m. What are we achieving in keeping him for six more months? He`s going to be older, closer to his contract ending & his value will drop. We are not going down & not getting in Europe. I would sell & have six months in focusing on a replacement that is suitable.

Apparently, £35m+ United going for Mata - Just heard it.

Chelsea wont sell united mata..

Not unless they sell them rooney.

It will be a swap or no deal.

Man u have just had a brick wall up against chelsea as if they are superior..

I cant see that deal coming off or either club agreeing any deal

NickisBHAFC wrote:FFP kicks in next October. 

QPR, Blackburn and Forest could potently face fines of up to 50 million pounds.

Don't have a clue do you?

Verrati is a lot better than cabaye already and he's still practically a child.

United won't buy anyone this window.

What use would mata be for us? We don't play any system that would use him.

Ent wrote:Verrati is a lot better than cabaye already and he's still practically a child.

United won't buy anyone this window.

What use would mata be for us? We don't play any system that would use him.

As of this moment in time, that is a quite frankly inaccurate. Don't be fooled by the fact he's plays for PSG, so he must be brilliant. Verrati is essentially a midfielder with potential, that's it. He hasn't even scored a goal for PSG in two years & has been linked going back to Serie A on numerous occassions. He's labelled the 'new Pirlo', however, he hasn't done anything as of this moment to justify that tag, whereas Cabaye, has been playing in the EPL for years at a top level guiding Newcastle to Europe. Cabaye has immense technical ability in terms of passing, crossing & a genuine goal threat, something Verrati doesn't have in his game at all, if you've ever seen him play or look at the stats.

As for Mata, he's been heavily linked today. Maybe, Moyes wants to change the system completely & incorporate a new formation that see's United go in a different direction & finally makes this United team his own, instead of just being labelled 'Ferguson's'. No smoke without fire with these reports, so expect some activity with Mata.

Chelsea would be daft to get sell Mata to United unless Rooney goes the other way as part of an exchange deal.

Aye agreed benson.

The deal seems kind of perfect as well.

Although Mata is tagged a midfielder and Rooney is tagged a Striker.

Both are very similar players. They are no 10 players..

I can see both players now going abroad as manb u and chelsea wont be able to make this happen

£35m for a player Mourinho doesn't want. Yeah, United are a domestic side but are they rivals, certainly not this year. Financially it would be a great deal for Chelsea but I see your points about it being difficult to complete.

Another way of looking at it, is that Chelsea don't play United again this season, whereas United have to play City & Arsenal. Selling Mata to United would improve United significantly & give them fresh impetus & would help them take points off Chelsea's title rivals. Just a thought   

In some news only ill care about no doubt

Forest are signing Danny Graham on loan according to Billy's reporter mate

Arsenal and Spurs are tracking Lascelles while Spurs and Liverpool are with Darlow

PSG lining up 80m for hazard in the summer!!!

John wrote:Another way of looking at it, is that Chelsea don't play United again this season, whereas United have to play City & Arsenal. Selling Mata to United would improve United significantly & give them fresh impetus & would help them take points off Chelsea's title rivals. Just a thought   

  

Thats a good point. However, it won't be logical for Chelsea in the long run. If United get Mata and he pushes them to a Top 4 finish, then they can bring in further quality in the summer (such as Reus and Koke) and become a very major force the following season.
It would also be really unpopular with the Chelsea fans.

mystiroakey wrote:PSG lining up 80m for hazard in the summer!!!

ouch! really really don't want to lose Hazard, but it must be hard to say no to that kind of money. Mourinho clearly wants to keep Hazard too, he's developped so much this year alone (into one of the most dangerous players in the PL), but 80m? that's crazy money! Still think we won't sell though.

If bale is worth it then I suggest Hazard is.

Top class player. I hope you keep him though.

But that does put my point about Cabaye in perspective. PSG are a team that wont the very very best.

I think it could be a bad move for Cabaye to go to PSG, he may get sidelined when massive names come for the money.

J.Benson II wrote:

John wrote:Another way of looking at it, is that Chelsea don't play United again this season, whereas United have to play City & Arsenal. Selling Mata to United would improve United significantly & give them fresh impetus & would help them take points off Chelsea's title rivals. Just a thought   

  

Thats a good point. However, it won't be logical for Chelsea in the long run. If United get Mata and he pushes them to a Top 4 finish, then they can bring in further quality in the summer (such as Reus and Koke) and become a very major force the following season.
It would also be really unpopular with the Chelsea fans.

tend to agree, can't see us letting Man u have Mata unless we get Rooney in return. For all that 35m is tempting, I'm sure other European teams will be willing to pay comparable money this summer.

mystiroakey wrote:If bale is worth it then I suggest Hazard is.

Top class player. I hope you keep him though.

But that does put my point about Cabaye in perspective. PSG are a team that wont the very very best.

I think it could be a bad move for Cabaye to go to PSG, he may get sidelined when massive names come for the money.

If Bale is worth it Hazard is worth more In all seriousness we all know Madrid paid more than Bale was worth, but that was because they had the extra money from the Ozil sale.

Cabaye to PSG is an interesting one. Certainly Newcastle should be tempted at 21m, it's a good offer for a player who isn't all that young anymore, and who possibly wants to move on in any case (to CL football), but considering some of the stars PSG have signed it seems like a somewhat odd move. Cabaye is a very good player, but he's not elite level (sorry John), and while he'd do a good job for any team, if you're aspiring to be Europe top dogs I'm not sure he's the answer...

MU reported to be very interested in Edinson Cavani. Moyes went to see him last week for a league cup game. they tried to get him during this window but failed which suggests they might have another go this summer. it is said that MU has 180 million euro to spend in transfer. I doubt PSG will sell him though.
Verrati was linked to real Madrid but denied saying he's in Paris for the long term. Pastore will go in my opinion, he's been surplus to requirement.
apparently Newcastle signing of Remy Carbella from Montpellier will only be effective this summer though.

Mad for Chelsea, I agree, Cabaye is not elite level & I actually want to cash in on him right now. You might be surprised by that, however, what's the point in us keeping him for another 6 months? We can't get relegated & we won't challenge the top 4. All we are doing is allowing him to further run down his contract, get older & reduce his price. Yeah, I would love for him to stay because he's a great player but I thinking more along the lines of long term.

Yeah, Cabella is agreed for the summer apparently, meaning Ben Arfa is leaving somewhere.

A lot of people convinced United will be bidding for Mata, whether they have yet or not.

Hope they do, Mata from the right, Januzaj from the left with Rooney in behind RVP. That'd be nice

Dont underestimate Cabaye...hes a top player...but i cant see our chairman turning down £21m for him at 28 and he wants to play for Paris. Especially when it looks like the Remy Cabella deal for £10-12m is pretty much a done deal.

Its bloomin strikers we need though..it dispairs me that we keep rolliing out Ameobi!!!

Ben Arfa is so frustrating...sometimes class sometimes just looks so disinterested.

United might be trying to bid for Mata but I'd be surprised if Chelsea listened. He'll be sold to Spain or Italy in the summer most likely

There's a reason this has come to be the top story. United have clearly been told by Chelsea, he's available at a 'price'. United would immediately reject they are interested, all they've said is that they've made no bid, as of yet.

Mata is available. End of. Financially, Chelsea know this could be a significant deal for them, in terms of United's desperation & the fact he's not even a key player for Chelsea anymore. I don't get all this, 'we won't sell to rivals', we've heard that all before from Arsenal, Chelsea, Dortmund, Bayern, Barcelona & Madrid. Money talks & they've all done business with each other & their rivals.

Moyes has an opportunity. You either grab it or you don't. Take Mata & possibly get Top 4. Don't get Mata & be in the Europa League & having a difficult summer. You choose.

Yeah why would you strengthen united, makes no sense.

Rooney and rvp more likely to stay if a player like a mata joined. Potential new recruits would also be more interested if Rooney, rvp and mata were at the club.

Can't see it happening

I'm sure Chelsea would sell to United. At a vastly inflated price. 60m would probably do it

Arsenal and Dortmund were forced into sales by expiring contracts. Chelsea under no immediate pressure

John wrote:There's a reason this has come to be the top story. United have clearly been told by Chelsea, he's available at a 'price'. United would immediately reject they are interested, all they've said is that they've made no bid, as of yet.

Mata is available. End of. Financially, Chelsea know this could be a significant deal for them, in terms of United's desperation & the fact he's not even a key player for Chelsea anymore. I don't get all this, 'we won't sell to rivals', we've heard that all before from Arsenal, Chelsea, Dortmund, Bayern, Barcelona & Madrid. Money talks & they've all done business with each other & their rivals.

Moyes has an opportunity. You either grab it or you don't. Take Mata & possibly get Top 4. Don't get Mata & be in the Europa League & having a difficult summer. You choose.

Whoa whoa whoa.

Who says they'll make the Europa League?

I don't think they will, Jose can really put the boot in here.

As it stands we are most likely going to be finished as a competitive side for a good few years after this season. Selling us mata could change that.

A prospective recruit probably won't be out off by 1 year of no cl if they could play with rooney, rvp and mata.

If Utd aren't interested LFC should snap him up. Anyone thinking we don't need a creative midfielder is seriously deluded. Be worth it not to have Joe Allen pulling the shirt on again....although in fairness he did make two forward passes against Villa (even though technically for one of them, he was facing his own goal)

How much really would Mata go for? Is it really around £60m?

They could probably get Cabaye, Tiote and Sissoko for that!

30-35m seems like a fair amount, given its January and they would be selling to a rival. Probably 40m if he does move though.

Didn't Utd bid 30m for Cesc, who IMO is a better player

Why should Chelsea sell Mata to United. An unrefusable offer. 35m isn't close to unrefusable for Chelsea

Apparently United are trying to sign Dante from Bayern.
Hernanes is available so would be a good buy, Lazio looking to offload the Brazilian, Liverpool/Spurs & Atletico interested

They are also after Vidal, who just signed a new contract and would cost around 50-60 million! Think they need to be more realistic in their targets..

"I'm happy with the Man United interest. It's not done yet, my party is keeping me informed." - Dante

Did anyone else realize he is 30? i did not   

Looks like we've pretty much signed up Dutch striker Luuk de Jong from Moenchengladbach on loan till the end of the season with views to a permanent move.

Cabella done deal, which would suggest Cabaye is also a done deal.

Then we have the usual host of French names being circulated...ie £3m for some striker from Sochaux, Cedric Bakambu???

Agree, Geordie. Luuk De Jong doesn't excite me, he's failed with Moechengladbach, not sure about him at all.

United after Dante? Where's that come from? Not a great signing, if true. 30 years old is hardly the long term option, he's was also awful against City in the recent group game & just isn't really tested in the Bundesliga. I mean, Boateng looked woeful in the EPL, now he looks great in Bundesliga.

Tom Ince linked with Monaco and Everton, although seeming as Everton already signed McGeady seems unlikely

Why would Dante leave? Though originally he was just bought as a squad player the long term injury to Badstuber has given him a place in the best team in the world and an almost guranteed place in Brazil's world cup side. Bayern don't have much cover in the centre of defense, I'd be amazed if this happened.

I think De Jong is a risk worth taking, he's still 23, he's been a bit unlucky with Injuries and obviously fallen slightly out of favour at BM, doesn't mean he's a bad player. Cabella is a good signing as well, Ashley despite being a tight a*se is running the club well.

Fernando wrote:"I'm happy with the Man United interest. It's not done yet, my party is keeping me informed." - Dante

Did anyone else realize he is 30? i did not   

He was a bit of a journeyman for years to be honest until he moved to Borussia Monchengladbach, suppose central defenders tend to peak about his current age.

It would great to see a young English player go abroad.. But Monaco??

Tom Ince to Monaco would seem right. Paul took him to London for talks behind Oyston's back didn't he & now Paul's been sacked from Blackpool.

Yeah, I don't believe the Dante story one bit. Is it just me, but why isn't Jones partnered with Evans for a number of games & actually try to create a new partnership there. All I see at United is a leader who is clueless, bit like Whitmarsh at McLaren, for any F1 fans reading.

Blackpool also lost 9/10. They missed their window after relegation

Was reading a bit about that young English CB who is playing for Sporting Lisbon and the England Under 21s, Eric Dier. Saying how much more he has learned playing abroad, I don't watch the England 21s so I don't know if he has done well for them but Sporting are neck and neck with Porto and Benfica this season for the first time in years and he's a part of it at 19. Think it would be hugely beneficial for more young British players to go abroad, especially up here in Scotland would much rather the young guys who've been going to the likes of Everton,West Brom, Sunderland or the Championship for nominal fee's only to rot would be far better set moving to Holland, Portugal, Belgium etc for the next step in their development. Sadly the easiest option is usually the one that is taken!

I just want to see them play Monty.

It drives me mad watching English talent at clubs benches when they could be playing week in week out in the Champs or foreign leagues

ince moving to monaco would just be like sinclairs move to city

a move purely based on money where id be surprised if he got the game time

I dont think he'll stay at Monaco if he doesnt play or learn anything from it. Paul Ince learned from his own young mistakes, he wont let Tom suffer and you get the feeling Tom listens