Ongoing NFL Discussion Thread V

by **Pr4wn** Sat 04 Jan 2014, 4:45 pm

First topic message reminder :

Strong staff for us, I'm excited for next season!

by GSC Sun 12 Jan 2014, 9:10 pm

Cam can't step up in the big moments again. The front 7 underperformed today and he couldn't answer. Fair to ask if he's underwhelmed since going first?

by mikeygnfl Sun 12 Jan 2014, 9:10 pm

So it's the 49ers @ Seahawks next week. Will it be the Patriots @ Broncos too? They have been the best four teams in the NFL this year and would be two great matchups.

That said, I have been saying for most of the week that I was expecting one shock result this weekend. Must be the next game then.

Crabtree back and Davis not being concussed was worth 14 points. 10-9 in the regular season to Panthers, 23-10 to 49ers today.

by mikeygnfl Sun 12 Jan 2014, 9:13 pm

GSC wrote:Cam can't step up in the big moments again. The front 7 underperformed today and he couldn't answer. Fair to ask if he's underwhelmed since going first?

I think both the Panthers and the Saints found their level for the season this year. Don't think either were good enough to go further. I would expect the Panthers to keep getting better. They have some very good young players. Good defence just need more on their offence. The NFC South will be interesting next year. Saints should be strong again albeit a year older. The Buccaneers and Falcons could both do well to.

by Adam D Sun 12 Jan 2014, 9:17 pm

Chat box on fellas

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 12 Jan 2014, 9:18 pm

GSC wrote:Cam can't step up in the big moments again. The front 7 underperformed today and he couldn't answer. Fair to ask if he's underwhelmed since going first?

I think its more than fair. Third year QB, going first overall, he should be able to do more. Must look at what Luck is doing in Indy, with a talent level that's much lower than what they've got in Carolina.

Also think Cam's demeanour is a factor rightly or wrongly. He just looks to casual and really deflated before that comeback attempting drive.

I gotta admit I'm not his greatest fan, and I'm not a great fan of Carolina either. Think they're a pretty overrated team and they got taken to school by the 49ers

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 12 Jan 2014, 9:20 pm

Also how freakin insane is the NFC title game gonna be next week!

by GSC Sun 12 Jan 2014, 9:25 pm

Panthers have to pay Cam. Gonna be hard to pay Hardy with CJs deal and upcoming deals

by **Pr4wn** Sun 12 Jan 2014, 9:28 pm

Come on the chat box lads.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 12 Jan 2014, 9:30 pm

I can't access it for some reason, look at my explanation on the chatbox thread!

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 12 Jan 2014, 10:50 pm

Blowout about to occur in Denver

by mikeygnfl Mon 13 Jan 2014, 1:55 am

A snippet of Peyton Manning/ Omaha tweets on the CBS Sports website:- http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24407639/nfl-divisional-playoffs-as-told-by-twitter-peyton-manning-likes-omaha

by mikeygnfl Mon 13 Jan 2014, 1:59 am

Another tweet suggests Peyton Manning will retire, buy an NFL franchise and move it to Omaha.

by mikeygnfl Mon 13 Jan 2014, 2:08 am

Sunday 19 January

AFC Championship
New England Patriots @ Denver Broncos 8pm GMT

NFC Championship
San Francisco 49ers @ Seattle Seahawks 11.30pm GMT

by Lowlandbrit Mon 13 Jan 2014, 8:23 am

http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2014/01/12/seahawks-block-nfc-title-game-ticket-sales-to-california-and-43-other-states/

by Number-25 Mon 13 Jan 2014, 9:17 am

That was all a bit predictable this weekend then eh? You know it's bad when even I'm 4 out of 4 in predictions. Kind of a sign of where the NFL is just now - 4 very good teams and then a whole bunch of crap!

Next weekend should be different though..... no idea which way those games will go!

by BamBam Mon 13 Jan 2014, 9:36 am

Currently in the process of booking next Monday out of my diary

by sodhat Mon 13 Jan 2014, 9:38 am

I might have to join you, BamBam. In booking the day off that is. I'm not self-inviting myself to your house to watch the games with you.

by BamBam Mon 13 Jan 2014, 9:54 am

more the merrier

by sodhat Mon 13 Jan 2014, 9:59 am

This could be like one of those stories in the papers, about the guy that had a party advertised on Facebook and thousands of people turn up.

by BamBam Mon 13 Jan 2014, 10:17 am

All wearing pads and helmets.. Or is it just me who does that?

by Number-25 Mon 13 Jan 2014, 10:50 am

Party at BamBam's house!!! I'll be the sad guy rocking back and forward in the corner with tears running down my face mumbling about being let down and betrayed by RG3 this year.

by sodhat Mon 13 Jan 2014, 11:03 am

There will be a queue formed for the corners I think.

We have a few Redskins, Browns, Bucs and Raiders fans around here.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 13 Jan 2014, 2:06 pm

I'll be in the middle of the room, celebrating a last minute pick of Peyton Manning by Aqib Talib to win the game Whistle

by sodhat Mon 13 Jan 2014, 2:09 pm

Then you'll go home to change your trousers.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 13 Jan 2014, 2:13 pm

I'm already pumped for Sunday. I'm gonna be uncontrollable by the weekend.

San Fran are gonna beat Seattle, and beat them badly. No doubt in my mind.

by **Pr4wn** Mon 13 Jan 2014, 2:16 pm

Olly wrote:I'm already pumped for Sunday. I'm gonna be uncontrollable by the weekend.

San Fran are gonna beat Seattle, and beat them badly. No doubt in my mind.

I really hope so.

by BamBam Mon 13 Jan 2014, 2:26 pm

I'll probably need to change my trousers too if we do

by sodhat Mon 13 Jan 2014, 2:28 pm

Olly wrote:I'm already pumped for Sunday. I'm gonna be uncontrollable by the weekend.

San Fran are gonna beat Seattle, and beat them badly. No doubt in my mind.

Last year I recall your prediction that the Super Bowl wouldn't even be close and the 9ers would steamroll the Ravens...

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 13 Jan 2014, 2:38 pm

sodhat wrote:
Olly wrote:I'm already pumped for Sunday. I'm gonna be uncontrollable by the weekend.

San Fran are gonna beat Seattle, and beat them badly. No doubt in my mind.

Last year I recall your prediction that the Super Bowl wouldn't even be close and the 9ers would steamroll the Ravens...

We all make mistakes. I didn't realise Flacco would be so good, nice to see he's returned to normal this year.

I honestly think San Fran will win by 10 plus points. They're the hottest team in the league right now, and Seattle never really put away New Orleans despite them stinking it up for the whole game. That Seattle offence sucks.

by sodhat Mon 13 Jan 2014, 2:43 pm

I hope you're right, I really do. I don't think anyone likes Seattle except for their megaphone-voiced fans.

I hope Manning beats the Patriots too. Not Denver; Manning. Once he's gone I can get down to ignoring Denver again.

by GSC Mon 13 Jan 2014, 2:59 pm

Seattle vs Denver for me. 2 best and most complete teams in the league

by GSC Mon 13 Jan 2014, 3:11 pm

Also the pro bowl will be Pagana vs Rivera I believe.

Also Nick Foles is in somehow

by sodhat Mon 13 Jan 2014, 3:14 pm

Somehow is a bit harsh on Foles. Passer rating of well over 100 and 27-2 TD/INT ratio. If you Eagles don't want him, send him to Oakland.

by GSC Mon 13 Jan 2014, 4:04 pm

Those stats are mostly a product of Chip Kelly and good fortune. Hes a decent QB, nothing more

by TM Moot Mon 13 Jan 2014, 4:07 pm

49ers (just) and Denver for me...

by sodhat Mon 13 Jan 2014, 4:18 pm

GSC wrote:Those stats are mostly a product of Chip Kelly and good fortune. Hes a decent QB, nothing more

Well why did Vick still suck if Kelly's presence alone guarantees those sort of stats?

by GSC Mon 13 Jan 2014, 4:30 pm

Vick was fairly productive and hes obviously not the answer. Watching Foles, its obvious his stats are a lot more impressive than his actual play.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 13 Jan 2014, 4:36 pm

Foles threw a lot of lucky passes this year from what I saw, some of his TD's really should've been INT's from the top of my head the Jackson TD in Green Bay being a prime example.

I'd put him in the 15-20 range with Dalton

by sodhat Mon 13 Jan 2014, 4:41 pm

I don't doubt what you're saying, I don't see Foles as much as you do. From the stats alone his season looks impressive and the way the media seems to talk they've anointed him as the starter there for the foreseeable. I was just wondering why he's viewed slightly negatively.

We should probably take away the 7 he threw against Oakland though. They don't count.

by GSC Mon 13 Jan 2014, 4:41 pm

I mean, if I'm an Eagles fan and I'm not hyping him to high hell then it should say something. Consensus among beat writers is the guy can obviously play but needs more work.

by GSC Mon 13 Jan 2014, 4:43 pm

When DeSean Jackson is turning defender on a sure fire pick, you've got some luck on your side.

Obviously 27-2 ratio makes him untouchable this offseason, but the rookie cap works in the Eagles favor as they can't pay him this offseason. Not saying he can't be the guy but I need to see more.

That Oakland game he had like 4 TDs from DJ Hayden falling on his butt alone.

by sodhat Mon 13 Jan 2014, 4:53 pm

I just looked at the teams he started against and in truth it doesn't read like a roll call of great defenses...

Tampa
Dallas
Oakland
Green Bay
Washington
Arizona
Detroit
Minnesota
Chicago
Dallas

Outside of Arizona and maybe Detroit and Tampa he's faced some pretty soft defenses.

by BamBam Mon 13 Jan 2014, 5:01 pm

Would that be DJ Hayden, 12th overall pick by the new Raiders organisation that definitely wouldn't be making any more stupid picks picard

by mikeygnfl Mon 13 Jan 2014, 5:09 pm

GSC wrote:Seattle vs Denver for me. 2 best and most complete teams in the league

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 13 Jan 2014, 5:12 pm

sodhat wrote:I hope you're right, I really do. I don't think anyone likes Seattle except for their megaphone-voiced fans.

I hope Manning beats the Patriots too. Not Denver; Manning. Once he's gone I can get down to ignoring Denver again.

Oh on this I'm fairly sure Jamie Collins will not only sack Manning 10 times, he will also pick him off at least 17 whilst covering everyone Whistle

by mikeygnfl Mon 13 Jan 2014, 5:12 pm

GSC wrote:Vick was fairly productive and hes obviously not the answer. Watching Foles, its obvious his stats are a lot more impressive than his actual play.

Foles was playing like that in the 2012 preseason and should have been the start for the past two years.

I think it is too early to judge him properly though. He hasn't had an offseason/ preseason knowing he is the starter. He has only started 16 games. Just about every QB looks shakey in their first 16 games but very little have anywhere near the stats Foles has had.

I doubt Peyton would still be a starter now if social media was around this much in the early 90s. A less than average first season and he lost his first three playoff games.

Young QBs don't get much chance these days.

by mikeygnfl Mon 13 Jan 2014, 5:22 pm

My Super Bowl preferences:-
1) 49ers vs Patriots
2) 49ers vs Broncos
3) Patriots vs Seahawks

by RDuncan8 Mon 13 Jan 2014, 6:42 pm

My Super Bowl preferences:-
1) Seahawks vs Broncos
2) 49ers vs Broncos
3) 49ers vs Patriots
4) Patriots vs Seahawks YUCK! Probably won't watch the superbowl!

by crazy_dave23 Mon 13 Jan 2014, 8:41 pm

RDuncan8 wrote:My Super Bowl preferences:-
1) Seahawks vs Broncos
2) 49ers vs Broncos
3) 49ers vs Patriots
4) Patriots vs Seahawks YUCK! Probably won't watch the superbowl!

I think this view sums me up pretty nicely

by Number-25 Mon 13 Jan 2014, 9:33 pm

So there I am, enjoying the offseason and a bit of peace quiet from the RG3 feeding frenzy..... and then this happens:-

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000312766/article/rgiii-defends-himself-on-facebook

And then RG3 does this:-

http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/talk/rg-reacts-facebook-post-reaction-twitter

I'm all for a guy defending himself but after the season we've just had, why not just let a few things slide and use it as motivation to come back stronger next year?? Sort of makes me yearn a bit for the quiet and boring days of Mark Brunell and his sub-100 yard passing games...... sigh.

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