What Is Going On In Wales Pt.2

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Following on from the old thread -: https://www.606v2.com/t50378-what-the-hell-is-going-on-in-wales
 

Intotouch wrote:Hello knowledgeable Welsh friends. I've read some extraordinary things lately about the war between the regions and the union in Wales, but being an outsider, and not following this closely for years I'm not sure what's real and what's nonsense. Can someone please help clarify a few things for me?

1. I read that the WRU have a deal with the regions that they will each be given the same amount of money annually by the union for the next five years. This was interpreted by some as the union deciding to slowly let the regions go bust so they can set up new regions that they would own. Is this really the case?  It sounds completely crazy to me! Wouldn't this be a disaster in Welsh rugby and couldn't they try to buy the regions instead since they have more money now? Could this really be a plan?

2. The WRU is making a profit and with the millenium stadium paid off should have plenty of money to splash about in the future. (Or do they?) As they won't give more money to the regions this suggests that they want the regions to founder (see above).

3. Although the WRU pay millions to the regions annually they have little or no say in how they are run so are deeply frustrated with the regions. Also the regions can't stand the WRU even though they're keeping them afloat. Is this true and why?

4. The WRU offered central contracts to the players in the regions but the regions rejected this. Even though they would have a smaller wage bill if it went ahead. Why?
The regions have the lowest salary cap in Europe and keep losing their best players. But the regions won't let the WRU pay the internationals out of a central contract. As players have to be released anyway to play for Wales I don't see why the clubs wouldn't be delighted to do this. Are they afraid that they would lose them to too many training camps? I don't follow the logic of this. If the WRU paid the players then surely the regions would be able to keep more of their best players playing in Wales which surely would benefit them as they'd have stronger teams. Again I don't get why this is such a problem.

(Please don't include the possible move to the AP on this thread. It's being debated elsewhere.)

The original thread hit 1,000+ posts without descending into a bicker-fest, let's try to keep this thread going in the same manner.

Chunky Norwich wrote:

SecretFly wrote:
There is no difference.  One guy not wanting to talk about one thing, other guys staying away from a meeting as a sulk at not getting their way?  Chunky seems to think Contradictions don't abound in both of his posts I allude to.  Surely you can see it.  If one side wants to negotiate... they must be ready to discuss things that they mightn't want to discuss.  That's negotiation. "Just talk about our stuff" doesn't cut it at the negotiation table.

You haven't got a clue. Gallacher resigned from his ERC directorship so as not to be forced to vote against the regions in favouring the with-holding of competition monies.

In your world he should have stayed on, been part of a board that voted for the with-holding of payments, as legally required to do - and therefore directly oppose the survival of the 4 regions. Crazier than a kettle full of worms.

At the time of Gallacher's resignation the withholding of competition money was not an issue.

It is nonsense to claim that any RRW representative would have been forced to vote in favour of withholding payment. You have made that up. In fact it's possible that PRL either abstained, or voted against, withholding payment, as the last statement doesn't mention a unanimous vote.
Had an RRW representative attended the meetings they could have at least negotiated on behalf of the regions, however, they refused to attend, and in doing so can't really justify the whining about not receiving that payment. They are idiots.

Munchkin, please - let's not have some of your factual analysis get in the way of good old fashioned ranting

Says here that;

"Gallacher’s resignation will be regarded as a move designed to remove any potential conflict of interest should the regions make an official request to join an expanded Premiership tournament.
The regions have also called for a public inquiry into the proposed commercial revenues between the unions and regions, amid fears that the new ERC-run tournament next season would leave them as the financially worst off clubs in Europe."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/wales/10524424/Wales-rugby-crisis-deepens-as-chief-executive-of-Regional-Rugby-Wales-quits-Rabo-and-ERC-boards.html

That's that sorted then. Now back to the WRU/RRW war.

SecretFly wrote:I'm wrong because I'm an Irish man who hasn't a clue what's going on in Welsh rugby.

Your Welsh countrymen are wrong because they are biased and support the Unions over the Regions

You are slendidly right in all areas because you support the Regions and the Regions are always right.

Nice logic.

Being Irish has nowt to do about not knowing what the feck is going on and has been going on in Welsh rugby. I'm Welsh and still learning stuff.
Yes, i'm afraid there are plenty of Welsh who are biased and would love to see the current regions die. Been that way for yonks unfortunately and I can't see it changing anytime soon.
Can't speak for the other 3, but Cardiff have definitely not always been right.

Munchkin wrote:

At the time of Gallacher's resignation the withholding of competition money was not an issue.

It was clearly a move designed to remove the conflict of interests, of which the payments is the perfect example.

You think RRW removed Gallacher as a Director simply because they didn't want to discuss European Competition anymore? Really?

Have a think about how ridiculous that is.

It is nonsense to claim that any RRW representative would have been forced to vote in favour of withholding payment. You have made that up. In fact it's possible that PRL either abstained, or voted against, withholding payment, as the last statement doesn't mention a unanimous vote.

Gallacher would have been on the same board that collectively voted for the payments being with-held and other decisions like it.

The fact that you cannot see this massive conflict of interest just shows how massively biased your viewpoint is.

Had an RRW representative attended the meetings they could have at least negotiated on behalf of the regions, however, they refused to attend, and in doing so can't really justify the whining about not receiving that payment. They are idiots.

Simply untrue.

It's very much a "let them eat cake" attitude from the Irish. They don't understand the problems that genuine regional rugby supporters face. They don't particularly care about the problems. They don't care if the regional supporters are left with no teams. They see the solution as whatever the WRU wants to do as being right, although preferably the Irish model as that's the model everybody should adopt. All they care about is themselves, maintaining the status quo, being in a league that suits them. And all the while carrying the line that they want to do what's best for European rugby as a whole and want nothing but good for us Welsh celtic cousins of theirs.

At best, it's a deceitful, holier than though scumbag, sycophantic, narrow minded attitude.

Chunky Norwich wrote:It's very much a "let them eat cake" attitude from the Irish. They don't understand the problems that genuine regional rugby supporters face. They don't particularly care about the problems. They don't care if the regional supporters are left with no teams. They see the solution as whatever the WRU wants to do as being right, although preferably the Irish model as that's the model everybody should adopt. All they care about is themselves, maintaining the status quo, being in a league that suits them. And all the while carrying the line that they want to do what's best for European rugby as a whole and want nothing but good for us Welsh celtic cousins of theirs.

At best, it's a deceitful, holier than though scumbag, sycophantic, narrow minded attitude.

As we say in Ireland - a load of bollix.

The league suits us because we turn up playing the best rugby - generally speaking - as in consistently playing to a standard that gets close to the top and gets to the play-offs.  Some of us - not all of us.  You've heard of Connacht?  
No apologies for that - certainly no apologies when you consider the frightening natural talent I see on display from young Welsh players/sides week in and week out.

Meanwhile, the League has it's best side in the history of it - and it ain't Irish.

So do as much propaganda as you like with it Chunky.  
The League has some of the very best sides in Europe in it (proven over and over).
The league shows me some (as I've said and truly believe) exceptional young Welsh natural talent on display (shame they can't get team structures and coaches to take advantage of it)
The league, when at it's best, is both more gritty in passionate physicality and slick in speed and adventure than Top14 or AP - and if not better (as APers will no doubt tut tut the very suggestion as an grave insult) certainly the equal of the best of both those Leagues.

But you carry on - you're ashamed of it.  You feel small and unloved by the big neighbours to your east.  They make jokes about Pro12 and you readily believe them and hold your head low.  Fine.  Think what you think about the League - and the Irish.  The pleasing thing is that I know, for a fact, not all your countrymen share such gloomy outlooks on Pro12 or indeed the great-unwashed Irish out west

SecretFly wrote:

Chunky Norwich wrote:It's very much a "let them eat cake" attitude from the Irish. They don't understand the problems that genuine regional rugby supporters face. They don't particularly care about the problems. They don't care if the regional supporters are left with no teams. They see the solution as whatever the WRU wants to do as being right, although preferably the Irish model as that's the model everybody should adopt. All they care about is themselves, maintaining the status quo, being in a league that suits them. And all the while carrying the line that they want to do what's best for European rugby as a whole and want nothing but good for us Welsh celtic cousins of theirs.

At best, it's a deceitful, holier than though scumbag, sycophantic, narrow minded attitude.

As we say in Ireland - a load of bollix.

The league suits us because we turn up playing the best rugby - generally speaking - as in consistently playing to a standard that gets close to the top and gets to the play-offs.  Some of us - not all of us.  You've heard of Connacht?  
No apologies for that - certainly no apologies when you consider the frightening natural talent I see on display from young Welsh players/sides week in and week out.

Meanwhile, the League has it's best side in the history of it - and it ain't Irish.

So do as much propaganda as you like with it Chunky.  
The League has some of the very best sides in Europe in it (proven over and over).
The league shows me some (as I've said and truly believe) exceptional young Welsh natural talent on display (shame they can't get team structures and coaches to take advantage of it)
The league, when at it's best, is both more gritty in passionate physicality and slick in speed and adventure than Top14 or AP - and if not better (as APers will no doubt tut tut the very suggestion as an grave insult) certainly the equal of the best of both those Leagues.

But you carry on - you're ashamed of it.  You feel small and unloved by the big neighbours to your east.  They make jokes about Pro12 and you readily believe them and hold your head low.  Fine.  Think what you think about the League - and the Irish.  The pleasing thing is that I know, for a fact, not all your countrymen share such gloomy outlooks on Pro12 or indeed the great-unwashed Irish out west

Woah, I think you give it way too much credit, Fly   

I give it what all Leagues have Asbo - some good, some bad and some great.

Pro12 ain't unique in having good, bad and indifferent - Top14 and Ap have their share too - just ask ROG about his impressions so far of Top14 "This is what they do week in and week out - walk to lineouts...no urgency.  It's their game" etc, etc.

Wasn't talking about the league, rather referencing the comment that I bolded

  Oops! I was wondering about all that! I was saying 'hmmmm, wharh is that lad, Asbo, on about???'

My brain is knackered by this one. Think I'll move back to a safe Provincial tribal warfare one!

[quote="Chunky Norwich"][quote="Allty"]I'm Welsh and the regions have let themselves down
[/quote]

By wanting to exist?

Shame on them.[/quote]

No by trying to abandon their partners after 10 years of mismanagement

Allty wrote:

Chunky Norwich wrote:

Allty wrote:I'm Welsh and the regions have let themselves down

By wanting to exist?

Shame on them.

No by trying to abandon their partners after 10 years of mismanagement

No doubt about it Allty. I can tell that you are most definitely Welsh.

Fly, to your point on the last page about whether the Regions wanted to play in the Rabo or AP as a first choice,it is my opinion that our interests are better served with the Rabo and a new ERC or whatever it is called, this is not a view universally shared on even our website, so yes the issue is quite foggy. The supporters of the Regions had a meeting with RRW in the past week, the details of which are on the Os site, it is more than likely on the other websites as well, the conflict of interest is part of RRW view, this is why they withdrew Gallacher from said meetings, and said Lewis shouldn't have been on said meeting. As for RRW not attending meetings, this is a bit rich when the WRU refused to attend the PRGB meetings over a 6 Month period, the organisation that set up the PRGB that was set up because of an Independent Report by their own Auditors PricewaterhouseCoopers, who recommended the board with an Independent Chairman, who the WRU recommended would be a High Court Judge Sir Wyn Williams, the Regions agreed to this nomination. As for the point some have made about other Nationalities having a viewpoint on this, some make some very valid points and for me are most welcome, some of the most blinkered come from within Wales, to the viewpoint of whether we have had the best coaches, WHY do you think IIRC practically every coach has been Welsh, I KNOW that HOLLEY was foisted on the Ospreys at the beginning of Regionalisation, whether that is a WRU directive since then is, I don't know, finally have the Regions made mistakes OBVIOUSLY YES, yet their mistakes DWARF the ineptitude of the WRU in their workings with the Regions since the Post Lewis tenure

Notch wrote:Chunky the words "deceitful", "scumbag" or "sycophantic" aren't really helpful to the tone of the debate when applied to people who do nothing wrong except disagreeing with you. It's a good debate, don't turn it into mudslinging.

It's a cracker isn't it. Long may it continue, and it will unfortunately.

A blast from the past;

"We've hit an all-time low - Moffett........October 2008.

Regional Rugby Wales interim chief executive David Moffett says the relationship between Wales' four regions and the Welsh Rugby Union has hit a new low following the High Court action over player release for national squad training that ended in victory for the governing body."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/welsh/7690326.stm

[quote="Cardiff Dave"][quote="Allty"][quote="Chunky Norwich"][quote="Allty"][b]I'm Welsh[/b] and the regions have let themselves down
[/quote]

By wanting to exist?

Shame on them.[/quote]

No by trying to abandon their partners after 10 years of mismanagement[/quote]

No doubt about it Allty. I can tell that you are most definitely Welsh.[/quote]


Thanks CD.... I'm as Welsh as it gets

Allty wrote:

Cardiff Dave wrote:

Allty wrote:

Chunky Norwich wrote:

Allty wrote:I'm Welsh and the regions have let themselves down

By wanting to exist?

Shame on them.

No by trying to abandon their partners after 10 years of mismanagement

No doubt about it Allty. I can tell that you are most definitely Welsh.

Thanks CD.... I'm as Welsh as it gets

Glad about that, but would you care to explain your claim as to how my team has been mismanaged for 10 years, warts an' all? Do the other 3 while you are at it.

SecretFly wrote:  Oops!  I was wondering about all that!  I was saying 'hmmmm, wharh is that lad, Asbo, on about???'

My brain is knackered by this one.  Think I'll move back to a safe Provincial tribal warfare one!

Mine too, but while you are recuperating and if you are mightily bored, try googling our Welsh rugby nonsense. Plenty to choose from.
Here's a starter for 10; http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/welsh/7690326.stm. Links on the right for more info.
Then gradually work your way through the years to present day.
Actually if you value your own sanity I suggest you don't bother.

I hav'nt got the time CD

But it starts with coaching and spending huge amounts of money on NWQ's

does make me smile that the most frequent posters on the "whats going on in wales" thread are irish.

the welsh are at war with themselves. i dont think uninformed tuppence are going to help illuminate the welsh situation

Allty wrote:I hav'nt got the time CD

But it starts with coaching and spending huge amounts of money on NWQ's

and?

quinsforever wrote:does make me smile that the most frequent posters on the "whats going on in wales" thread are irish.

the welsh are at war with themselves. i dont think uninformed tuppence are going to help illuminate the welsh situation

Thanks for that slap on the wrists by the righteous   

Just think of the Irish as the PRL of Pro12 and you'll understand our interest in all things Welsh from there on in.  
It goes something like this - Money, Power, Influence, Power, Greed, Power, Concern, Power, Greed, League Organisational Complexities, Concerns about Provincial diaries into the next few seasons, Power, Greed, Capitalism, Money, Boardroom detail, World Rule, Dominance and............................................... helping out little folk who might need our guidance

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:Meanwhile Olly Barkley has left France for Wales and praised the Regions (or as he puts it "Anglo Saxon Britain") for the professionalism of their set ups and facilities. Run down the regions all you like, at least they have decent toilets unlike the french.

Not one side of Rodney they don't, unless you like peeing on a wall

SecretFly wrote:

quinsforever wrote:does make me smile that the most frequent posters on the "whats going on in wales" thread are irish.

the welsh are at war with themselves. i dont think uninformed tuppence are going to help illuminate the welsh situation

Thanks for that slap on the wrists by the righteous   

Just think of the Irish as the PRL of Pro12 and you'll understand our interest in all things Welsh from there on in.  
It goes something like this - Money, Power, Influence, Power, Greed, Power, Concern, Power, Greed, League Organisational Complexities, Concerns about Provincial diaries into the next few seasons, Power, Greed, Capitalism, Money, Boardroom detail, World Rule, Dominance and............................................... helping out little folk who might need our guidance

I think you've forgotten Greed and Power, Fly

SecretFly wrote:

Just think of the Irish as the PRL of Pro12

helping out little folk who might need our guidance

That's quite a sickening post that. It would be funny if I thought you were being tongue in cheek.

The Irish really are ruining pro rugby in the Northern Hemisphere. And they seem to be enjoying it too.

Chunky Norwich wrote:

SecretFly wrote:

Just think of the Irish as the PRL of Pro12

helping out little folk who might need our guidance

That's quite a sickening post that. It would be funny if I thought you were being tongue in cheek.

The Irish really are ruining pro rugby in the Northern Hemisphere. And they seem to be enjoying it too.

Chunky, you ....................................... oh forget it.

Nothing I say could ever be funny to you.... no matter how ironically I word it!!!!
I'm Irish afterall............. the evil race to your left on the map!
Watch out!!! We're sneakier than Putin. Man the defences at Holyhead!!! We's a comin'!!!!!

Hilarious.

Chunky Norwich wrote:

SecretFly wrote:

Just think of the Irish as the PRL of Pro12

helping out little folk who might need our guidance

That's quite a sickening post that. It would be funny if I thought you were being tongue in cheek.

The Irish really are ruining pro rugby in the Northern Hemisphere. And they seem to be enjoying it too.

     Superb stuff, top quality comedy this early in the week

See...... Chunky

I don't have a hope

But retroscopically, I do actually find you funny.  Quite, quite funny in your xenophobic little castle with the drawbridge up and the military frown of defiance directed at the Irish of all people!!!

Now whilst not being hilarious, it is very funny.  Congratulations for the smile you put on my face.

The truth is out there.

Soooooo..............what is going on in Wales today? A little lawsuit? Jeez, this is ugly.
Is this really about the Regions and the national team? Or is this now a powerplay by everyone involved? Serious question.

It's Invasion. 6.30 pm - April 1st

doctor_grey wrote:Soooooo..............what is going on in Wales today?  A little lawsuit?  Jeez, this is ugly.  
Is this really about the Regions and the national team?  Or is this now a powerplay by everyone involved?  Serious question.

Always been ugly. Just got a bit uglier that's all. It got personal a long time ago and I happen to agree with the Drags chief, Gareth Davies that the whole of Welsh rugby needs reviewing.

Moffett yesterday;
"WRU sent me a reply arrived at 4.54 invited me to take legal action so will be briefing my lawyer tomorrow"

RRW's letter to Welsh Assembly;
http://www.regionalrugbywales.com/blog/

A couple of things to keep Roger and co busy in the weeks ahead.

This has all gone a bit quiet. Any progress?

It's guerrilla warfare. All cloak and dagger now. Radio silence till there is a winner and the rest are vanquished...

Lots of positive spin in the media and smiles with bigger incomes being bandied about............. but behind closed doors I wonder what the issues around central contracts as part of the new agreement, which is still yet to be signed. Only 1 player signed centrally so far, though a lot of speculation that adam jones will sign one.

Regions appear to be caving in to WRU demands on central contracts   

By Simon Thomas

Regions call for urgent talks with Welsh Rugby Union in bid to secure peace deal

Regional Rugby Wales say they have proposed two dates next week for talks with the WRU as they look to find a solution to the impasse which has been ongoing in the Welsh game for the past year.
Wales’ four regions are seeking an urgent meeting with the Welsh Rugby Union in an attempt to thrash out an agreement with the governing body.
They have proposed two dates next week for talks as they look to find a solution to the impasse which has been ongoing in the Welsh game for the past year.
Mark Davies, the acting chief executive of Regional Rugby Wales, said there was great relief that a European peace deal had finally been put in place, but admitted there was still a lot of work to be done to secure one in Wales.
The regions refused to extend their existing Participation Agreement with the WRU, which runs out at the end of this season, and no settlement has yet been reached on the new Rugby Services Agreement proposed by the Union.
A number of issues are still to be resolved, particularly the level of funding from the governing body and the whole question of central contracts.
“We are hoping to be able to meet them the early part of next week,” said Davies, the Scarlets chief executive.
“At the moment, it feels like we are quite a long way apart and therefore there’s a lot of work to do.
“It’s like any form of partnership, we are mutually reliant and the sooner everybody understands that the better and the sooner everybody commits to the same set of objectives and principles the better.
“If everybody can agree fundamentally what we are trying to achieve and everybody can agree to be open with the resources we have got available, then it shouldn’t be that hard. The maths are the maths, there is nothing needs to be emotional about it.
"Of course it’s tight, everything in Wales is tight, but it’s not impossible if there’s a will. That’s where we’ve been for the last two years I guess really.”
Asked what the main issues were, Davies said: “It’s as simple as what are we each trying to achieve and are we committed to each other achieving that?
“Are the regions committed to a successful, competitive Welsh national side with a top four world ranking? Absolutely. You will not find anybody in any region that isn’t.
“In Wales, we are Welsh first and foremost.
“For the regions, the first and foremost responsibility as independent business is to survive. That’s not easy in the environment we have in terms of population and economy.
“That is why we have driven so hard for the new European structure because that’s an awful lot more resource into Welsh rugby immediately and we are totally and utterly convinced that the tournaments will grow in their revenue.
“That helps our sustainability, but we want to be competitive in both the Pro12 and the European competitions.
“At that point, you are up against considerably greater resource.
“If we are collectively committed that the regions should be competitive, the rest is maths. When the rest is maths, then it comes down to cash, but at no time over the last two years have we turned round and said just give us more cash.
“We have tried to put proposed structures in place that work on both sides and that is what we have done with the one we went back to the WRU with in March.
“Of course it’s going to take more resource to be competitive, but how do we structure that to protect the competitiveness of the national side and the regions?
“We do that we believe with a coherent contracting structure that works both ways. But it can’t just be about one or six players.
“It’s a question of trying to put a proper business structure in place that allows the asset to perform for both sides.
“That’s what we think is the most coherent solution and we think it’s doable.”
At present the regions receive a total of £6.7m from WRU central funds in return for international player release, observing overseas player quotas and other issues.
The Union have also secured an additional £2m from sponsors which they are proposing should be spent on centrally contracting a group of star players.
“The £6.7m is what we have now,” said Davies.
“In addition to that, they have said there is another £2m on the table from external sources. Fine, that’s great. But it’s still not any additional resource from the WRU.
“Yes, there’s a figure we have in mind, but we have put that to the WRU and what’s appropriate is we should have that discussion with them, rather than just chuck it out and we all dance round our handbags.”
Speaking at a press conference to promote Sunday’s Judgement Day regional double header at the Millennium Stadium, Davies said: “There is obviously a fair degree of relief we all feel as a result of now having our competition platforms in place.
“We can be excited about the structures, particularly about the new European competition, but also the positive effect that is going to have on the Pro12 and meaningful fixtures.
“We know the job is only half done. There is some way to go in many ways.
“But our supporters, players and coaches can look forward to improved competition structures for next year and intense and exciting rugby on the field, which is what it should be all about, and there is nothing going to more intense than all four regions performing in one place on Sunday.”

PRL next.

Munchkin wrote:Regions appear to be caving in to WRU demands on central contracts   

How in the blue ffec you got that from Wales' second worst Western Fail "journalist" and his latest toilet paper is beyond me.

Would you like to buy some magic beans?

Stone Motif wrote:

Munchkin wrote:Regions appear to be caving in to WRU demands on central contracts   

How in the blue ffec you got that from Wales' second worst Western Fail "journalist" and his latest toilet paper is beyond me.

Would you like to buy some magic beans?

No to the beans, thanks. Use them yourself, and see if you can grow a sense of humour....

Stone Motif wrote:

Munchkin wrote:Regions appear to be caving in to WRU demands on central contracts   

How in the blue ffec you got that from Wales' second worst Western Fail "journalist" and his latest toilet paper is beyond me.

Would you like to buy some magic beans?

Methinks Munchkin was being naughty by taking the proverbial.

The articles does beg the question as to why RRW are calling for "urgent" talks with the WRU. I was under the impression that they were already talking to each other. Obviously not, but it doesn't surprise me as the WRU have previous in not wanting to talk and being "unreasonable".

justified sinner wrote:This has all gone a bit quiet. Any progress?

According to Simon Thomas (author of the article posted by Munch) on twitter; "I think the two sides are still a long way apart to be honest. About £4m apart if truth be told!".

It's lucky for Roger that the Participation agreement ends at the end of June 2014 and not the end of May isn't it. Or there wouldn't be many regional based players in all the little training camps and probables v possibles urine abouts.

How they are going to agree on a way forward I really do not know.

FFS!

"Welsh regions meeting with Welsh Rugby Union is called off"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/welsh/

planned meeting between the Welsh Rugby Union and the four regions has been called off for Wednesday.
Regional Rugby Wales (RRW) had been expected to make its case to the full WRU board.
However, a meeting of the WRU executive and RRW is due to go ahead on Wednesday.

The article makes zero sense

Straight to story - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/27212894

Slightly mis-leading headline, as in the body of the story - "Regional Rugby Wales (RRW) had been expected to make its case to the full WRU board.

However, a meeting of the WRU executive and RRW is due to go ahead on Wednesday. "

So a meeting is going ahead, but not with the full board

FFS BBC

PenfroPete wrote:Straight to story - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/27212894

Slightly mis-leading headline, as in the body of the story - "Regional Rugby Wales (RRW) had been expected to make its case to the full WRU board.

However, a meeting of the WRU executive and RRW is due to go ahead on Wednesday. "

So a meeting is going ahead, but not with the full board

Yep and Moffett has just tweeted; "Board decided they wanted CEO to attempt yet again to try and get agreement before they become directly involved".

Cheers Dave - keep us posted (can't get access to Twitter in the office !!)