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Post by Guest Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:57 pm

Just getting a thread up in advance of this weekends match, latest rumour: Halfpenny to cover flyhalf?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/25641131

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Post by doctornickolas Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:42 pm

Can't see the Blues getting anything out of this to be honest. The Blues squad is threadbare in places as shown by an injury to Patchell and all of a sudden we are in to using someone who never plays 10 as cover.

Gethin, Matthew Rees, Brad Davies, Warburton should have provided a reasonably hard edge up front but injuries and illness have meant they have rarely played this season.

Can't see anythimng other than a bonus point win for Toulon.

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Post by Guest Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:51 pm

We are also missing our choice centre pairing as well, not a good season for the Blues who are trying to rebuild.

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Post by Jhamer25 Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:01 pm

Well it isn't going to be easy but anything is possible against Toulon, they are't playing their best.
Gethin is back which will strengthen the scrum; Toulon's scrum hasn't been as strong since Sheridan had to retire. They have the big brute's up front but they aren't the team they were last year. Yes i'm being very optimistic but don't shut of the Blue chances just yet.
Blues will look something like:
Gethin Jenkins
Kristian Dacey
Beoit Bouroust
Filo Paulo
Dicomidis
Pretorious
Josh Navidi
Copeland
Lloyd Williams
Gareth Davies
Alex Cuthbert
Dafydd Hewitt
Richard Smith
Harry Robinson
Leigh Halfpenny

It the Blues scan get in the Toulon Half, keep there discipline and cause penalties then Halfpenny is going to kick anything. Will they be a threat at the scrum, maybe but Gethin is more than capable than putting on pressure on Castro; there weaknesses is there loosheads but Cardiff's is there tight heads, so it's up to Borroust. The blues defense has come on heaps and bounds lately, so if the blues pack can hold their defense against the big Toulon pack then i can see it being a very close game. If they don't do any off the above then they will struggle and get thumped.

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Post by Nematode Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:17 pm

We (Glasgow) will lose vs Toulon and give them a BP but I think will sneak one over Exeter. If you could just beat Exeter then good luck in the quarter finals.

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 10, 2014 4:02 pm

Team announced:

15. Leigh Halfpenny
14. Alex Cuthbert
13. Richard Smith
12. Gavin Evans
11. Chris Czekaj
10. Gareth Davies
9. Lloyd Williams
8. Robin Copeland
7. Josh Navidi
6. Macauley Cook
5. Filo Paulo
4. Chris Dicomidis
3. Benoit Bourrust
2. Marc Breeze
1. Gethin Jenkins

Replacements: Rhys Williams, Sam Hobbs, Scott Andrews, James Down, Ellis Jenkins, Lewis Jones, Dafydd Hewitt, Dan Fish.

Couple of things:

Good to see Geth back to bolster the pack, I don't rate Hobbs.
Harry Robinson injured? Czekaj is experienced enough either way.
Would have started Hewitt over Evans personally.
No Sam Warburton, though I'm sure his dodgy shoulder will be magically healed by the time the Six Nations squad is announced.

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Post by Cardiff Dave Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:49 pm

What a journey it's been for Chris Dicomidis.
Just over a month ago he was languishing in the Welsh prem doing his thing, captaining Ponty.
A few Bloos injuries later and he finds himself in the south of France, playing in the HEC in a crucial game against the reigning champions and lining up opposite no other than Bakkies Botha.
Can only happen in rugby surely. Hope he has a blinder.
Both teams here;
http://www.espn.co.uk/heineken-cup-2013-14/rugby/match/191695.html



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Post by Jhamer25 Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:51 pm

I was close but when the hell did Sheridan come back, i thought he had a carear ending injury and would be out at least until the end of the season. I good team by Toulon, better than i expected but I still stick to my original post. Come on Cardiff

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Post by Cardiff Dave Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:08 pm

Good luck to Davies/Evans/Smith against Wilkinson/Giteau/Basteraud.
Only one winner there I feel.

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Post by wales606 Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:42 pm

3 missed tackles and a penalty in 19 seconds. Good start...
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Post by wales606 Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:48 pm

....and a YC in 6 minutes
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Post by kingjohn7 Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:49 pm

Harsh yellow.

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Post by Artful_Dodger Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:49 pm

Commentator misses the point completely - he wasn't yellowed for the tackle being slightly high, he was yellowed for ripping the ball from the Toulon winger while lieing on the ground and having not released after the tackle.

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Post by BigTrevsbigmac Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:53 pm

Artful_Dodger wrote:Commentator misses the point completely - he wasn't yellowed for the tackle being slightly high, he was yellowed for ripping the ball from the Toulon winger while lieing on the ground and having not released after the tackle.

Dewi isn't always the sharpest tool, probably had a great night last night & I wouldn't blame him either.

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Post by kingjohn7 Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:55 pm

Really? Thought he ripped it on the way down. My picture quality is awful though so will take ur word for it.

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Post by Artful_Dodger Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:57 pm

kingjohn7 wrote:Really? Thought he ripped it on the way down. My picture quality is awful though so will take ur word for it.

He may have ripped it on the way down, either way I think the adjudication was that he had killed the Toulon attack in the Blues 22 illegally.  Maybe the tackle being slightly high was a factor as well.

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Post by wales606 Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:00 pm

Looks like we could win the 10 minute sin bin 6 - 3. Draw at least..
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Post by wales606 Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:08 pm

Decent first 20

Problem is, the Blues struggle to score tries atm. So we only stand a chance if we make this a goal kicking competition which mean 100% concentration in defence for 80 minutes - 1 lapse and it will be very difficult to come back.
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Post by Scoped Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:15 pm

Wow 20meters forward and multiple phases and still not advantage over? Thats a bit much don't you think?

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Post by Scoped Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:15 pm

Wow 20meters forward and multiple phases and still not advantage over? Thats a bit much don't you think?

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Post by flankertye Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:17 pm

Borrrrriiinngggg game.

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Post by kingjohn7 Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:18 pm

Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo 

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Post by flankertye Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:18 pm

wahhey, finally.

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Post by wales606 Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:19 pm

That was one hell of a finish from a lock forward!

Paulo and Copeland playing like backs in that phase!

Wow!
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Post by wales606 Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:20 pm

Halfpenny's golden boot  Very Happy 
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Post by Scoped Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:22 pm

Wow, awful breakdown reffing AND the maul!

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Post by wales606 Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:23 pm

Lots of decision going against the Blues atm :/
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Post by wales606 Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:25 pm

Jenkins down Sad

He's had a fantastic first half, hope he can recover

Doesn't look good...
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Post by wales606 Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:28 pm

Breeze having a bit of a mare, really pity Dacey is injured - he would be loving this.
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Post by The Saint Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:31 pm

Ridiculous yellow card. Decent effort from Blues so far though.

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Post by Notch Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:33 pm

Yellow card was fair for me. He's on the ground, he plays the ball and quick ball there was an all but certain try.
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Post by The Saint Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:34 pm

It looked as if he ripped the ball out on the way down, kind of a momentum thing. There wasn't a certain try on at all, but I get it, it's a welsh team so everyone wants to stick the boot in. Cue people turning up and telling us how the ref is on Blues side. Again.

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Post by TJ Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:35 pm

Oh look - its mr chip on his shoulder again.  Broken Record Broken Record Broken Record Is any decision against any welsh team ever right\/ Is any welsh team ever fairly beaten? Is it ever possible to find fault in a welsh team without being anti welsh? Get a grip sonny.

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Post by wales606 Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:37 pm

Unsure on the YC, would have to see it again - not that it made much difference though

Ref as been fairly consistent, but his whistle happy nature at the breakdown is not helping the Blues slightly slower and less experienced forwards
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Post by TJ Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:40 pm

Careful - you will be labelled anti welsh for those comments Smile

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Post by TJ Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:41 pm

Sait - yo ualso need to learn the rules. If it was an act of foul play preventing a certain try then a penalty try is given as well as a YC. If its an act that prevents a try scoring opportunity its a yellow card

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Post by wales606 Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:42 pm

Well, the ref isn't helping the Blues - but his interpretation is fair enough.

So far...

(I retain the right to slag off the ref on 80 minutes Wink)
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Post by The Saint Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:42 pm

TJ wrote:Oh look - its mr chip on his shoulder again.  Broken Record Broken Record Broken Record  Is any decision against any welsh team ever right\/  Is any welsh team ever fairly beaten?  Is it ever possible to find fault in a welsh team without being anti welsh?  Get a grip sonny.

Any reason why this comment hasn't been removed Notch? I've given an opinion on how I viewed it and based on the reaction to the last game and get attacked. Always find these accusations pretty rich coming from Scotland fans too, given how the last load of games between our teams have gone.

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Post by wales606 Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:42 pm

Gethin out Sad
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Post by wales606 Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:43 pm

Ouch! That is not a good time for Halfpenny to drop a ball :/

First score is crucial
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Post by wales606 Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:44 pm

Well I dont agree with that one!!!!

Yellow card from the first scrum!
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Post by TJ Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:44 pm

Saint - can't take it don't dish it out.

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Post by wales606 Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:45 pm

Horrible start Sad

I blame Halfpenny  Rolling Eyes 
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Post by majesticimperialman Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:45 pm

Gethin Jenkins Injured again. Will he play any part in the 6ns? Should he take any part in the 6ns? he as been a great player for Wales over the years, But surely he is too injurie prone right now.

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Post by Notch Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:45 pm

TJ, Saint- leave it out lads. Differing opinions are cool, tedious jibes are not cool. Agree to disagree and get on with it please!
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:46 pm

Scrum falling apart

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Post by wales606 Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:46 pm

*sigh*

Urggg, im fed up of our scrum gifting opposition games
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Post by The Saint Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:47 pm

Toulon power seems to be inevitably taking it's toll.

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Post by VinceWLB Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:47 pm

Hobbs is still a laughable scrummager  censored 

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Post by wales606 Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:48 pm

VinceWLB wrote:Hobbs is still a laughable scrummager  censored 

Yep, losing Gethin was huge :/
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