Barclays Premier League 13/14 Thread Part 'x'

[Crimey]

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[compelling and rich]

agree with john that half the players wouldnt have been booked in the first place if it werent for the wrongly disallowed goal, so dont buy the newcastle players should have been sent off so its evened out

newcastle deserved at least a draw

[NickisBHAFC]

Stoke 0-1 Liverpool

Cruel cruel goal. Huge deflection of Ryan Shawcross.

[owen10ozzy]

Well done ref? Yes well done ref for not sending off two Newcastle players, had he done that this score could have been a lot more one sided.

I'm inclined to think that, for this game at least, the officiating has evened out.

But the question is...why has it evened out? It certainly has nothing to do with the ref being any good. Had he not made that decision in the first half then he would have sent both players off in the 2nd, without a doubt in my mind. If anything that makes his decision making worse; he has gone against his natural judgement in an effort to restore parity to a game which he has affected in the first place! Just all round pi** poor officiating and not for the first time this season.

Ziggler - I can understand your point regards the standard of officiating and the fact it is easy when seeing it from our angles on tv etc; yet that does not mean the refs should escape judgement especially on decisions where, lets be frank, they have the best view in the house. The angle Jones was at for that goal meant he more than anyone should have seen Gouffran was not interfering in play.

Every week now I hear analysts and fans say 'oh with the benefit of hindsight it's easy to say the ref got it wrong'...and of course their is a degree of truth to that; however it seems to be used to consistently protect the refs from the poor decisions that continuously get made.

Whilst on the whole the standard of refereeing has improved, the consistency in decisions being made from one week to the next has got worse in my opinion, especially over the past 2 seasons. Yes it is a difficult job to do and the abuse they receive is hard for anyone to take...however they have decided that this is the career they wish to have...and they are rewarded extremely well. The average top flight ref earns in the region of £65,000 a year these days! For that amount of money they should be held accountable for the decisions they get wrong....they very rarely are!

[Duty281]

Well done ref? Yes well done ref for not sending off two Newcastle players, had he done that this score could have been a lot more one sided.

I'm inclined to think that, for this game at least, the officiating has evened out.

But the question is...why has it evened out? It certainly has nothing to do with the ref being any good. Had he not made that decision in the first half then he would have sent both players off in the 2nd, without a doubt in my mind. If anything that makes his decision making worse; he has gone against his natural judgement in an effort to restore parity to a game which he has affected in the first place! Just all round pi** poor officiating and not for the first time this season.

The average top flight ref earns in the region of £65,000 a year these days! For that amount of money they should be held accountable for the decisions they get wrong....they very rarely are!

Oh yes, if it has evened out then it's very much a case of "two wrongs make a right" which is never the best way to approach something. Newcastle should have had a goal, but they should have also been down to ten men for a significant proportion of the game.

And whilst referees earn that much in a year, I can't help but think that it's not very much. I mean, in the context of top-level football as a whole, it's not a very large slice of the money tree, is it?

[Hammersmith harrier]

Feck off. Players were only over aggressive because they were infuriated with the dissalowed goal. Ref was being lenient trying to make up for his mistake & the players like Cabaye picked up on that n took advantage.

City were shocking today. Hardly even deserved the win. How can you say the score would of been much more. Only reason they scored at end was because we were gung ho trying to equalise. Would never of been that open if it were rightfully 1-1. They hardly peppered our goal?

Shockingly unlucky today. Referee was appalling.

Spot on John, the dreadful decision led to the bad tackling so no in reference to the decisions evening out, they did not.

[hampo17]

Get in.

[Duty281]

Feck off. Players were only over aggressive because they were infuriated with the dissalowed goal. Ref was being lenient trying to make up for his mistake & the players like Cabaye picked up on that n took advantage.

City were shocking today. Hardly even deserved the win. How can you say the score would of been much more. Only reason they scored at end was because we were gung ho trying to equalise. Would never of been that open if it were rightfully 1-1. They hardly peppered our goal?

Shockingly unlucky today. Referee was appalling.

Spot on John, the dreadful decision led to the bad tackling so no in reference to the decisions evening out, they did not.

Is that a fair excuse though? We got a bad decision, so it's fine to try and kick the sh!te out of the opposition?

[Dolphin Ziggler]

No it isn't. Pardew probably didn't need to call Pellegrini what he did either

[Hammersmith harrier]

It's an understandable consequence and with the butterfly effect if the goal is awarded it changes the rest of the game, Newcastle could have gone on to win or City could have kicked into gear and won easier.

[Duty281]

No it isn't. Pardew probably didn't need to call Pellegrini what he did either

Yeah calling him a "fu""ing old c**t" isn't going to play well with the FA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXae_V1VnvQ

Crouch! Stoke back in it.

2-2! Where's that come from?!

[Hammersmith harrier]

Get in there, two former Pool rejects coming back to score, come on Stoke.

[Duty281]

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=311258.0

Always the best time to read RAWK.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Will never ever understand why people rate Glen Johnson

[Guest]

What's happening here then? Probably go on to lose now.

[Duty281]

What's happening here then? Probably go on to lose now.

Banbury won 3-2 yesterday, will Liverpool do the same?

[Hammersmith harrier]

Watching that decision again, Jones deserves a good smack and to be struck off, totally inept and Hart what a scumbag.

[Guest]

Wow the refereeing is really going to be under scrutiny today. Never a pen in a million years

[Lumbering_Jack]

Equally inept refereeing being shown in the late kick off too. What a shambles.

[Hammersmith harrier]

After that nice dive from Sterling think it's about time you pool fans kept quiet about Januzaj and Young.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I gotta admit I thought it was a pen, doesn't excuse the atrocious defending in the first place

[Hammersmith harrier]

I gotta admit I thought it was a pen, doesn't excuse the atrocious defending in the first place

You mean Sterling blocking the ball with his hand?

[compelling and rich]

another shocking decision, although stokes defending has been woeful

[Hammersmith harrier]

A few more of those please Ryan.

[hampo17]

The replays clearly showed it wasn't hand ball HH, there was also contact in the Sterling incident unlike the majority that involve Young and Juanazaj

[LastDamnation]

Anthony Taylor quick to reclaim the crown of worst referee in the prem

[Hammersmith harrier]

The replays clearly showed it wasn't hand ball HH, there was also contact in the Sterling incident unlike the majority that involve Young and Juanazaj

You should take those blinkers off Hampo but then again you Pool fans are happy having Suarez at your club which says it all really.

[hampo17]

Are you saying there wasn't contact? I haven't said it was a penalty, it was a very harsh one.

[Hammersmith harrier]

Contact or not it's still a dive, no different to Welbeck against Tottenham, as for it not being handball well it was.

[hampo17]

Hit him in the shoulder, you can't give handball for that. The Welbeck one? I can only remember the blatent dive when there was no contact.

[Hammersmith harrier]

The blatent dive where there was clear contact which doesn't alter it being a dive, it hit his upper arm not his shoulder. To be honest i've lost all respect for Liverpool as a football club so hate seeing them getting dodgy decisions.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

What a striker

[Lumbering_Jack]

Harsh certainly isn't the word to describe that penalty. It is a joke of a decision.

[hampo17]

There was a video posted on here mate that showed the defender made no contact, he pulled his leg away before he touched Welbeck.

Sturridge makes an instant impact and a quality finish from Suarez!

[Lumbering_Jack]

Hit him in the shoulder, you can't give handball for that. The Welbeck one? I can only remember the blatent dive when there was no contact.

It his his arm. But I don't think it should be penalised for that, was ball to hand.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

What a striker

I could watch him play all day. Unbelievable player

[Hammersmith harrier]

I watch him just in the hope he gets Ramsey'd or Eduardo'd.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

They will get top four because of him, combined with the weakness of competition. They have a reasonably average side, but Suarez is world class

[Lumbering_Jack]

What a striker

I could watch him play all day. Unbelievable player

He's such a cheating Kumquat though. First half he went down under that challenge from the Stoke GK. He never touched him.

[NickisBHAFC]

I actually feel 4-2 is a bit harsh on Stoke. Hopefully they can get another one will make the last 10 minutes interesting.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

I watch him just in the hope he gets Ramsey'd or Eduardo'd.

Pretty sad

[NickisBHAFC]

I watch him just in the hope he gets Ramsey'd or Eduardo'd.

  

Tbf if anyone does that before the World Cup, they deserve to be knighted!!!

[Hammersmith harrier]

I watch him just in the hope he gets Ramsey'd or Eduardo'd.

  

Tbf if anyone does that before the World Cup, they deserve to be knighted!!!

They would become an instant hero.

[Crimey]

I watch him just in the hope he gets Ramsey'd or Eduardo'd.

It's only a game...

The kind of comment you'd expect from a child football fan.

[The Special Juan]

I watch him just in the hope he gets Ramsey'd or Eduardo'd.

It's only a game...

The kind of comment you'd expect from a child football fan.

So's your face

[Hammersmith harrier]

Sorry but biting, cheating racists don't deserve to be paid the amount of money he does but because he plays for your team it's alright. In any other job he'd be marginalised and sacked and rightly so.

[owen10ozzy]

Definitely not a hand ball & provides a perfect example of my discussion with Dolphin earlier.

Suarez at it again, simply sensational player; whilst some will question him as a person and Liverpool as a club for sticking behind him....he is paying it back too fold for the club now and you have to give some credit to everyone involved because by standing by him and throwing their support (and contract) behind him they have arguably got the best out of him now.

As for the penalty, very very harsh one....another example of the inconsistencies we were talking about earlier when it comes to refereeing.

Harrier - comments such as that regards Suarez makes you no better than him in all honesty; the only reason you probably hope that is so that he doesn't rip our national side apart when it comes to the match! I don't hear you giving the same kind of abuse to Terry...or Ronaldo who has cheated various times, or indeed Young who has cheated the system plenty of times...

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Wow Mignolet that was horrific

[Hammersmith harrier]

I give Terry exactly the same abuse, I refused to watch England while he was in the team after the Anton Ferdinand affair, he's a disgrace who shouldn't have been anywhere near the england team.

As for Young and Ronaldo, do remind me when they have bitten and racially abused an opposition player?

[Hulking_up]

What a game SAS!

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Oh the keeper doesn't deserve that. What a game!

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