Barclays Premier League 13/14 Thread Part 'x'

[Crimey]

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[Champagne_Socialist]

A bit of gap opening up now between the top 3 and the teams fighting for the 4 spot. Really interesting. There are a lot of teams fighting to avoid relegation as the bottom half are all bunched together. There is a second wide open race for the last CL spot with Everton, Liverpool, United, and Spurs in the mix. And then there is a wide open race for the title with City, Arsenal, and Chelsea.

Yep every team is in one battle or another bar possibly Southampton...

11 teams in the relegation.

3 in the title and 5 for 4th spot

Got to love it as everyone has to keep absolute focus every single week and squeeze out as many points as possible. Nobody is safe in their standings. That is a proper league not a Bundesliga where one team runs away with it by the half way point of the season. Good players and good league but no league right now is as open and as competitive as the EPL.

la liga is very competitive this yearr with athletico, barcelona and madrid all chasing the number 1 spot.

[Guest]

would Remy be a good target for Arsenal? I always thought that if he left Marseille it would be to a top 4 club not newcastle.

Apparently, our so called agreement with QPR for Remy @ £8m isn't actually done n dusted. He`s done well for us with 11 goals but he`s the focal point, as was Ba, when he banged 16 in a season. There aren't many other goalscoring options other than Cabaye.

Watched Remy closely this season, he`s not a natural in front of goal in my opinion, does waste chances. Link up play isn't particularly great, Giroud is probably more effective than what Remy would be at Arsenal.

As for tonight, you feel Everton will rue dropping points like this come May.

[The Fourth Lion]

United were basically up against it when Rooney and RVP were not fit for the match. Did anyone think they had a hope to beat Chelsea without those two. I mean United are very reliant on those two and without them their team is pretty much midtable. So I don't think I would blame Moyes' tactics. His options were limited. United are a two man team for the most part and those two guys weren't available. If you told me no Rooney, no RVP, and playing Chelsea on the road I would think 3-1 is a pretty unsurprising result.

So we have established that Rooney and van Persie are important to Manchester United. It's pretty fair to say that any team missing those two players would be likely to be affected.

We can talk about who is and isn't good enough for Manchester United, but the simplest analysis of the situation is that this was always likely to happen once Sralex retired. We shouldn't be surprised by it.

We can all say Moyse should go out and buy this or that player but it isn't that easy. The days when "You don't say no to Manchester United" are over. They may struggle to attract the highest quality players if they cannot guarantee Champions League football. I'm sure Moyse will do the best he can and if there is a miracle and United do make it into next season's CL, then kudos to him for that. I wish him luck.

If not, then Manchester United fans are just going to have to get used to it.

You don't get a coconut every time, Sid.

[socal1976]

A bit of gap opening up now between the top 3 and the teams fighting for the 4 spot. Really interesting. There are a lot of teams fighting to avoid relegation as the bottom half are all bunched together. There is a second wide open race for the last CL spot with Everton, Liverpool, United, and Spurs in the mix. And then there is a wide open race for the title with City, Arsenal, and Chelsea.

Yep every team is in one battle or another bar possibly Southampton...

11 teams in the relegation.

3 in the title and 5 for 4th spot

Got to love it as everyone has to keep absolute focus every single week and squeeze out as many points as possible. Nobody is safe in their standings. That is a proper league not a Bundesliga where one team runs away with it by the half way point of the season. Good players and good league but no league right now is as open and as competitive as the EPL.

la liga is very competitive this yearr with athletico, barcelona and madrid all chasing the number 1 spot.

Sort of I mean the league champion will win 100 points that hardly speaks to a league where the lower and mid ranking teams are close enough to compete against the top level teams.

[socal1976]

United were basically up against it when Rooney and RVP were not fit for the match. Did anyone think they had a hope to beat Chelsea without those two. I mean United are very reliant on those two and without them their team is pretty much midtable. So I don't think I would blame Moyes' tactics. His options were limited. United are a two man team for the most part and those two guys weren't available. If you told me no Rooney, no RVP, and playing Chelsea on the road I would think 3-1 is a pretty unsurprising result.

So we have established that Rooney and van Persie are important to Manchester United.  It's pretty fair to say that any team missing those two players would be likely to be affected.  

We can talk about who is and isn't good enough for Manchester United, but the simplest analysis of the situation is that this was always likely to happen once Sralex retired.   We shouldn't be surprised by it.  

We can all say Moyse should go out and buy this or that player but it isn't that easy.  The days when "You don't say no to Manchester United" are over.  They may struggle to attract the highest quality players if they cannot guarantee Champions League football.   I'm sure Moyse will do the best he can and if there is a miracle and United do make it into next season's CL, then kudos to him for that.  I wish him luck.

If not, then Manchester United fans are just going to have to get used to it.  

You don't get a coconut every time, Sid.

I disagree with one part of this post. I think if you took away Arsenal, Chelsea, or City's best two players they would not drop off as much. Arsenal has had much more bad luck with injuries this year losing their top goal scorer from last year for almost the whole year and they haven't dropped off as much. If Arsenal lose Ozil and Walcott, or Ramsey the rest of their team still has a lot of quality. Where I don't feel that way about United. If Chelsea or City lose their best two players they still have so much talent that they could challenge for the title and in Arsenal's case even without their two best players I think they got a CL squad. United without their two best players are at best mid table.

[Ent]

We should realise how easy it is to c*nt people off with that benefit and actually take the mindset of the idea before the game. You're saying with hindsight that Jones isnt good in centre mid, but that wasnt the case against Arsenal.

The best part of you saying its 4-4-2 and me saying its really a 4-5-1 is just how easily it highlights how you cant bracket formations. Hes never once played a 4-4-2 in that game.

You do go on about playing an 18 year old a lot, like its a bad thing. If he's good enough hes old enough. He played Young against Ivanovic as backed up by both commentator and pundit that theres been history of Young terrorising Ivanovic. Welbeck through the middle as hes been scoring and playing well from there. Januzaj centrally as hes currently the best creative link and needs to be on the ball. Plus he drifts between lines fantastically. Valencia on the right is his choice, not one I like, but one most fans of United would have picked Id imagine. Both him and Young get up and down the flank, important against Chelsea.

Jones worked very well in centre mid against another top side performing well. Justifies that.

They matched up to Chelsea by basic tactics/formations.

Most importantly, the better build up and football came from United, the final quality was all Chelsea's. I repeat, the formation doesnt stop the goals.

Youve not answered those points really.

With what benefit? We either discuss decisions in hindsight, positively or negatively or try to predict the future- should all manager chat be banned?

I've said jones isn't good enough for midfield and should be at centre back developing multiple times, even when others disagreed. He got destroyed on Sunday. That is foresight.

Let's look at things objectively, mourinho sent a team and a structure out at old Trafford early season with a goal in mind and got his draw, did the same yesterday wheras moyes was under pressure to get a win due to crap performances all season - mourinho gets 4 points from united, lovely.

There is no way in hell we would be 7th if mourinho was in charge.

Now we won't get cl and we won't be able to attract players, it's over. And we all know who to blame.

I wear my heart on my sleeve when it comes to united and don't apologise for it, I hate what has become of my team.

This adventurous a line up would have been great early season when Chelsea were at ot but instead we didn't go for it and plodded along, how stupid does that look now?

Can't wait until moyes goes.

[Guest]

Van Persie won the league for Man Utd last season.  This season he has been out most of the time and it has been Rooney doing the work of three men that has been keeping Man Utd going - although he has been overworked and is out injured.  I hope he goes to Chelsea.  I think Rooney is a Mourinho type of player (phenomenal work rate).

[Ent]

I'd like to see some loyalty from Rooney, he is our best player for the second time in 10 years and has won 8 trophies (at my count) with another player being the driving force.

Time to man up and not look for the easy way out.

[lfc91]

Rooney might be looking at things and thinking to himself that united may not get back to where they were for 4/5 years and by that stage he will be very near the end of his career (dont think he will be another giggs!). He might just want to go where theres a better chance of trophies, while hes still in his prime.

[liverbnz]

 . And we all know who to blame.

 
I don't think that's true. Everyone to a man seems to be blaming the players.

However, I highly doubt this would be the conclusion if say, AVB was in charge.

[Fernando]

Nicolas Anelka charged by FA over gesture vs West Ham.

5 game ban heading his way then.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

We should realise how easy it is to c*nt people off with that benefit and actually take the mindset of the idea before the game. You're saying with hindsight that Jones isnt good in centre mid, but that wasnt the case against Arsenal.

The best part of you saying its 4-4-2 and me saying its really a 4-5-1 is just how easily it highlights how you cant bracket formations. Hes never once played a 4-4-2 in that game.

You do go on about playing an 18 year old a lot, like its a bad thing. If he's good enough hes old enough. He played Young against Ivanovic as backed up by both commentator and pundit that theres been history of Young terrorising Ivanovic. Welbeck through the middle as hes been scoring and playing well from there. Januzaj centrally as hes currently the best creative link and needs to be on the ball. Plus he drifts between lines fantastically. Valencia on the right is his choice, not one I like, but one most fans of United would have picked Id imagine. Both him and Young get up and down the flank, important against Chelsea.

Jones worked very well in centre mid against another top side performing well. Justifies that.

They matched up to Chelsea by basic tactics/formations.

Most importantly, the better build up and football came from United, the final quality was all Chelsea's. I repeat, the formation doesnt stop the goals.

Youve not answered those points really.

With what benefit? We either discuss decisions in hindsight, positively or negatively or try to predict the future- should all manager chat be banned?

I've said jones isn't good enough for midfield and should be at centre back developing multiple times, even when others disagreed. He got destroyed on Sunday. That is foresight.

Let's look at things objectively, mourinho sent a team and a structure out at old Trafford early season with a goal in mind and got his draw, did the same yesterday wheras moyes was under pressure to get a win due to crap performances all season - mourinho gets 4 points from united, lovely.

There is no way in hell we would be 7th if mourinho was in charge.

Now we won't get cl and we won't be able to attract players, it's over. And we all know who to blame.

I wear my heart on my sleeve when it comes to united and don't apologise for it, I hate what has become of my team.

This adventurous a line up would have been great early season when Chelsea were at ot but instead we didn't go for it and plodded along, how stupid does that look now?

Can't wait until moyes goes.

Spectacularly missing the point.

To ignore this whole nonsense, you finish with an attitude that baffles me. There have been some very good Manchester United fans at Old Trafford this season who have supported the manager. Your attitude is why opposition fans find this small period of struggle funny and makes you part of the problem in your club, not the solution.

[Fernando]

Really sucks to be Zaha, Can't get in United side and now he's only a sub for the Reserves

[sodhat]

At least he got his end away (allegedly).

[mystiroakey]

Really sucks to be Zaha, Can't get in United side and now he's only a sub for the Reserves

Moyes is acting like a child . He is treating a potential world class player like this who only wants to play..



It makes me sick.

Zaha should just walk out and never grace OT again unless its to score a hatrick against United . Zaha needs to get his agent to get another club to buy out his contract

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Or you know Zaha could do something to be picked...

[mystiroakey]

NO i dont buy it. He is trying. Not one person is saying he isnt. He fought hard for palace until the end..

He has asked Moyes for a loan move just to play. Moyes says No chance you are needed . Then he doesnt even start for the reserves.

There is some childish nonsense going on Olly. And its from Moyes..

Moyes has a grudge and is trying to ruin the lad.

[mystiroakey]

and to add didn't he say that zaha cant be loaned due to young being injured, Then he started young who clearly cant be injured and stuck zaha on the bench at the reserves.



I used to be one of the few Palace fans that respected united.. Now they are being relegated into Millwall's league.

[sodhat]

and to add didn't he say that zaha cant be loaned due to young being injured, Then he started young who clearly cant be injured and stuck zaha on the bench at the reserves.



I used to be one of the few Palace fans that respected united.. Now they are being relegated into Millwall's league.

Give it another year or two and you may be literally correct.

[Fernando]

Apparently Van Persie has been fit for up to 2 weeks according to their fitness team but wanted the extra time to guarantee his injury was done with.

[mystiroakey]

Apparently Van Persie has been fit for up to 2 weeks according to their fitness team but wanted the extra time to guarantee his injury was done with.

That to me is sensible..

So many players come back to early and pull up first game back..

[Guest]

David Moyes has promised that Manchester United will be competitng in one of the top European competitions next year, even if he has to write the song himself

[Ent]

Seasons over and has been for a while, why risk rvp like he did earlier in the season and have him injured for longer.

A lot of this comes back to an overly negative start and having to try chase things, forced his hand over many decisions eg rvp.

Poor season management.

[CFCNick]

Apparently Van Persie has been fit for up to 2 weeks according to their fitness team but wanted the extra time to guarantee his injury was done with.

That to me is sensible..

So many players come back to early and pull up first game back..

Exactly. Agree 100%. How many bone injections had Gerrard had? He'll be a cripple in 15-20 years.

[J.Benson II]

NO i dont buy it. He is trying. Not one person is saying he isnt. He fought hard for palace until the end..

He has asked Moyes for a loan move just to play. Moyes says No chance you are needed . Then he doesnt even start for the reserves.

There is some childish nonsense going on Olly. And its from Moyes..

Moyes has a grudge and is trying to ruin the lad.

The rumours about Zaha and Moyes' daughter are probably true.
Doesnt make sense that Zaha was selected consistantly in the pre-season games as well as the Charity Shield only to be totally frozen out once the league began.
He's obviously done something thats really p1ssed off Moyes.

[Ent]

We should realise how easy it is to c*nt people off with that benefit and actually take the mindset of the idea before the game. You're saying with hindsight that Jones isnt good in centre mid, but that wasnt the case against Arsenal.

The best part of you saying its 4-4-2 and me saying its really a 4-5-1 is just how easily it highlights how you cant bracket formations. Hes never once played a 4-4-2 in that game.

You do go on about playing an 18 year old a lot, like its a bad thing. If he's good enough hes old enough. He played Young against Ivanovic as backed up by both commentator and pundit that theres been history of Young terrorising Ivanovic. Welbeck through the middle as hes been scoring and playing well from there. Januzaj centrally as hes currently the best creative link and needs to be on the ball. Plus he drifts between lines fantastically. Valencia on the right is his choice, not one I like, but one most fans of United would have picked Id imagine. Both him and Young get up and down the flank, important against Chelsea.

Jones worked very well in centre mid against another top side performing well. Justifies that.

They matched up to Chelsea by basic tactics/formations.

Most importantly, the better build up and football came from United, the final quality was all Chelsea's. I repeat, the formation doesnt stop the goals.

Youve not answered those points really.

With what benefit? We either discuss decisions in hindsight, positively or negatively or try to predict the future- should all manager chat be banned?

I've said jones isn't good enough for midfield and should be at centre back developing multiple times, even when others disagreed. He got destroyed on Sunday. That is foresight.

Let's look at things objectively, mourinho sent a team and a structure out at old Trafford early season with a goal in mind and got his draw, did the same yesterday wheras moyes was under pressure to get a win due to crap performances all season - mourinho gets 4 points from united, lovely.

There is no way in hell we would be 7th if mourinho was in charge.

Now we won't get cl and we won't be able to attract players, it's over. And we all know who to blame.

I wear my heart on my sleeve when it comes to united and don't apologise for it, I hate what has become of my team.

This adventurous a line up would have been great early season when Chelsea were at ot but instead we didn't go for it and plodded along, how stupid does that look now?

Can't wait until moyes goes.

Spectacularly missing the point.

To ignore this whole nonsense, you finish with an attitude that baffles me. There have been some very good Manchester United fans at Old Trafford this season who have supported the manager. Your attitude is why opposition fans find this small period of struggle funny and makes you part of the problem in your club, not the solution.

People find it funny out of jealousy for being on top so long. My opinions on a message board have absolutely zero effect on things, either in creating problems or finding solutions.

Mysti, zaha isn't good enough yet and I don't think it is any travesty he is not playing. Mind you he couldn't do much worse than the current bunch.

May well have been on the bench for the reserves as he is going to play in te league cup.

[CFCNick]

Zaha is crap. I knew this in the community shield when he had a hard time beating Wigan's back four.

[mystiroakey]

"Mysti, zaha isn't good enough yet"

he is good enough.

he was your star player pre season.

There is something going seriously wrong at united..and Zaha will leave.

You will all be wondering what happened soon whilst you prop up the top half of the PL. whilst you watch Pogba, morrision and Zaha tearing it up at other clubs.

[mystiroakey]

Zaha is crap. I knew this in the community shield when he had a hard time beating Wigan's back four.

nonsense- I take it you have only ever seen one game of his then...

[Guest]

Zaha is crap

It's quite easy to sit there & blurt out utter rubbish about a player, who isn't being given the opportunity to prove himself. It all comes back to Moyes for me, how on earth this guy thinks Valencia or Young are doing a good job for United is beyond me. But then, this is the same guy who spent & wasted £27m on Fellaini so it's no surprise.   

[CFCNick]

"Mysti, zaha isn't good enough yet"

he is good enough.

he was your star player pre season.

There is something going seriously wrong at united..and Zaha will leave.

You will all be   wondering what happened soon whilst you prop up the top half of the PL. whilst you watch Pogba, morrision and Zaha tearing it up at other clubs.

Lukaku and De Bruyne were the stars of our preseason. Yet whenever they've played a competitive game for us they're both a shell of the players they can be.

Plus United had one of the worst preseasons ever. If Zaha was their star then it doesn't say much for him.

[Ent]

He was our best player in pre season and I'm surprised he didn't get a further go but in the few chances he has had he hasn't done anything to warrant further appearances. Not convinced he is as good as he was billed from what I saw second half of last season in the championship.

Morrison had behavioural problems (as you well know) and would never have settled down in Manchester. Plus he is doing alright in a team fighting relegation. Hardly tearing the league up.

Pogba and his agent were muppets, he was ready for the first team but wouldn't sign a new deal. Why would you play someone who is going to leave in 6 months? Good player and everyone was disappointed to lose him but unfortunately these this happen sometimes.

We've just signed zaha can't see us losing him.

[mystiroakey]

So you are saying they got a game? more than Zaha has got!!

and look at Lukaka at Everton! who are also a top side!

[mystiroakey]

" Not convinced he is as good as he was billed from what I saw second half of last season in the championship.
"

he did lose it after he was signed and then loaned back to palace. Agreed. Obviously the whole thing unsettled him and he was really exited about being a united player. BUt he is young and then he ultimately proved his worth. Because when the biggest games came along he was the Play offs star player and was the difference between all 4 sides. HE got palace in to the PL. He proved himself in massive games..

[CFCNick]

Lukaku played three games before going out on loan. A he got was a couple of yellow cards and nothing else. De Bruyne played about 15 games this season, probably 7 starts.

I get really fed up of people jumping on the "Lukaku for Chelsea" bandwagon. It's never going to work. I'd rather sell him. He can't perform for Chelsea. All the strength and pace he shows at Everton and West Brom last year disappear when he plays for Chelsea. He's got too much pressure to be the next Drogba. I can't remember who dubbed him that but it was when he was 16 at Anderlecht. He is worse than Torres has ever been.

Plus during Drogba's last season the style started transitioning into the current one where the striker doesn't need to score goals. Before Drogba and since Kerry Dixon we've never relied on a 30 goal striker anyway.

[mystiroakey]

so he played 3 full games and then went on loan and played......

Zaha has had 35 mins of PL game time and isnt being loaned.

[CFCNick]

Yeah. He played against Hull, Villa and Bayern. I'd say three is enough to know he won't fit. If he has any prior big reputation he'd be compared to Kezman and Shevchenko.

I'd get the impression Zaha only wants to play premier league football but the reality is most clubs he would want to go to wouldn't touch him with a ten foot barge pole.

[GSC]

Zaha needs game time. He's an immensely raw prospect, and inconsistent. He'd be a match winner one game and shut down by Dan Harding the next. I didn't think he'd be ready for United for a year or two but sitting him on the bench helps no one. He should've been loaned to the Championship then a PL team in Jan

[mystiroakey]

Zaha needs game time. He's an immensely raw prospect, and inconsistent. He'd be a match winner one game and shut down by Dan Harding the next. I didn't think he'd be ready for United for a year or two but sitting him on the bench helps no one. He should've been loaned to the Championship then a PL team in Jan

he shouldnt be loaned to championship.

Just Palace..

[GSC]

Of course teams want Zaha. He's in the mold of a Lukaku or Sturridge type loan deal for a lower table club

[GSC]

Can't loan to PL outside of the window though Myst.

I wouldn't send him to Palace. Maybe a West Ham type, unfamiliarity will be good for him

[mystiroakey]

Well I am Palace first GSC. and I want him!! so.....

[mystiroakey]

But I do think him and Morrison would be an amzing thing to watch at West ham..

They really link up well for the Under 21's

[Guest]

But I do think him and Morrison would be an amzing thing to watch at West ham..

They really link up well for the Under 21's

As much as I like Morrison & Zaha, there's a significant difference between them linking up well together against Lithuania or San Marino U-21's, than competitive EPL games.

[mystiroakey]

WEst ham only have to beat the lesser clubs.

Look at palaces last 5 games v the lesser clubs..

WE are not a great side yet have beaten stoke, west ham, cardiff, villa and drew v norwich!!

If we had Morrison and zaha we would be 10 times better!

[Guest]

I'd question whether having Morrison & Zaha in the side would work against Pulis' hard working mentality & the reason you've had success. Palace are a solid defensive unit, bringing in offensive minded players who don't work back, like Zaha, could undo what's been achieved. I see it the same as Ben Arfa at us. We played him, we lost more games because he was a risk. We bought in Gouffran & Sissoko out wide, who worked hard both offensively & defensively & we won like 5 or 6 games out of 7.

Agree, Morrison n Zaha would improve you going forward but I wouldn't want to upset the team dynamic or the system that's appearing to achieve you points.

[mystiroakey]

Well I think zaha would just replace Bolaise, and is better all round..

And Zahas work rate is top notch.

I think Morrision may be a problem in that regard but not Zaha

[mystiroakey]

and just to add Bolaises attacking threat has actually been one of the major differences in palaces form over the last 6 or so games since he came back from suspension

[Dolphin Ziggler]

We should realise how easy it is to c*nt people off with that benefit and actually take the mindset of the idea before the game. You're saying with hindsight that Jones isnt good in centre mid, but that wasnt the case against Arsenal.

The best part of you saying its 4-4-2 and me saying its really a 4-5-1 is just how easily it highlights how you cant bracket formations. Hes never once played a 4-4-2 in that game.

You do go on about playing an 18 year old a lot, like its a bad thing. If he's good enough hes old enough. He played Young against Ivanovic as backed up by both commentator and pundit that theres been history of Young terrorising Ivanovic. Welbeck through the middle as hes been scoring and playing well from there. Januzaj centrally as hes currently the best creative link and needs to be on the ball. Plus he drifts between lines fantastically. Valencia on the right is his choice, not one I like, but one most fans of United would have picked Id imagine. Both him and Young get up and down the flank, important against Chelsea.

Jones worked very well in centre mid against another top side performing well. Justifies that.

They matched up to Chelsea by basic tactics/formations.

Most importantly, the better build up and football came from United, the final quality was all Chelsea's. I repeat, the formation doesnt stop the goals.

Youve not answered those points really.

With what benefit? We either discuss decisions in hindsight, positively or negatively or try to predict the future- should all manager chat be banned?

I've said jones isn't good enough for midfield and should be at centre back developing multiple times, even when others disagreed. He got destroyed on Sunday. That is foresight.

Let's look at things objectively, mourinho sent a team and a structure out at old Trafford early season with a goal in mind and got his draw, did the same yesterday wheras moyes was under pressure to get a win due to crap performances all season - mourinho gets 4 points from united, lovely.

There is no way in hell we would be 7th if mourinho was in charge.

Now we won't get cl and we won't be able to attract players, it's over. And we all know who to blame.

I wear my heart on my sleeve when it comes to united and don't apologise for it, I hate what has become of my team.

This adventurous a line up would have been great early season when Chelsea were at ot but instead we didn't go for it and plodded along, how stupid does that look now?

Can't wait until moyes goes.

Spectacularly missing the point.

To ignore this whole nonsense, you finish with an attitude that baffles me. There have been some very good Manchester United fans at Old Trafford this season who have supported the manager. Your attitude is why opposition fans find this small period of struggle funny and makes you part of the problem in your club, not the solution.

People find it funny out of jealousy for being on top so long. My opinions on a message board have absolutely zero effect on things, either in creating problems or finding solutions.

Mysti, zaha isn't good enough yet and I don't think it is any travesty he is not playing. Mind you he couldn't do much worse than the current bunch.

May well have been on the bench for the reserves as he is going to play in te league cup.

Nah, I have no jealousy towards United, I am happy to support a team where winning a title isnt the be all and end all of my support. But that arrogance makes it funny. You are part of the problem, not the problem, again missing the point.

[Ent]

It is jealousy, nobody would care how we were doing if he hadn't been winning things.

What I write on here has no effect on anything, I'm not part of problems or solutions.

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