Six Nations : Win at all costs?

No9 wrote:

quinsforever wrote:talking of childish. the fact that my baseline for useful rugby statistics predates the birth of several vocal posters is i think an example of what is called having the long view?

perspective, in rugby as in life, is a useful commodity.

 
FACT ? is this fact based on the same principals that Wales are on a rollercoaster ride as you state, and England are consistent so are the better side...  
 
Here's a FACT for you. I'm old enough to have watched the 70s Welsh team and have some childhood memories of the 60s team. So your "fact" on ages is as watertight as your fact on Welsh performances...
 
Now, I used 2003 as a baseline as I thought I'd give England a chance in the stats, by using the last Grand Slam one by them. I ignored RWC, as this debate was about 6 Nations. But has it happens 2003 was England's dream season, as wining a Slam and RWC cant get better. However, there are few players still playing in the England XV now who where there in 2003, so perhaps a more useful baseline would have been 2008. But guess what, Wales would have won those stats with no question, skewing the results the other way. So in fairness I used 2003, which I believe show the 6 Nations Wins/Losses in a true reflection for the last 12 years... ie. There's nothing between them..
 
(Genuine English fans, my apologies... I reckon England could do well this year, but I don't think it is anyone nations trophy outright, its going to come down to points difference again, which is not where Wales do well, last year being the exception.)

Scratch wrote:gents calm…right now we have all played into Gloria's hands by doing exactly what he wanted when he created this thread. He will be sitting back and enjoying his work.

Quins…you are confident that Wales will capitulate again and you may be right, past 'statistics'  supports that and our draw isn't great but what i take most from your vehemence is that in European competition we are the team to beat. Vastly experienced and with Lions all over the park. We will be hard to beat this year.

9….Wales need a new 9 with some fight, think you have earned the spot!

Beers all round

Hound of Harrow wrote:Hmm. 'Win at all costs' suggests cheating, influencing officials (a la Ferguson in football) and possible serious foul play to remove an opponent from the field.

The 6N this year will be what it has long been about. Fantastic weekends away for the fans, national bragging rights and hard fought games - often in awful conditions.

Hip flasks full of warming spirits at the ready for the fans who will share their contents with the opposition


The tournament's history and memorable matches and conclusions mean that no team or head coach will look no further than winning each game.

Look at the squads selected so far. With the exception of Ireland*, there are very few 'bolters'. That shows that teams are focussed on this year's 6N, not next year's RWC.

* Ireland bringing many young prospects into a test level environment is very sensible.

Scratch wrote:Jhamer

Firstly i think when you accuse people of being childish you can expect them to reply and your bleating is very tiresome

Quins and I exchange views in our way an di have no problem with it, you don't have to get involved so just ignore it.

Secondly your last 2 posts on this thread have just been lame whines about others'  posts not of any rugby interest whatsoever yet you claim nearly every thread on this site is ambushed by my stupid little arguments with Quin. That's just BS frankly. My supposed debates mean nothing etc etc. I really don't give a $%^& what you think about how i post so do us all a afvour, stop whining and just ignore me as i do you.

This is a rugby debating site where people will exchange views, have arguments and there is no need for you to have a tantrum and spit your dummy. I won't give you any more advice on how to behave as you clearly get very upset when i do. I would appreciate you doing the same.

GloriousEmpire wrote:Guys! C'mon. Set each other to ignore for a week and post on.

It's all about of fun, not worth getting your blood pressure up for.

We are still WEEKs away from kick off. What'll it be like then?

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