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Post by D4thincarnation Wed May 18, 2011 11:37 pm

Never write of a great fighter.

Foreman has spoke of his regret of never fighting on long enough to face Wlad, he believes age in nothing but a number and as long as you are fit and healthy you can continue to box.

Hopkins could take Foreman's record of being the oldest champion if he beats Pascal.

Foreman was 45 when time time he shook the world and beat Michael Moorer to become Heavyweight Champion once again.

So could a fifty something Foreman beat Wlad, I think at that stage of his career Foreman would have had a real chance, he had the power to KO Wlad, no doubt, and I would not write of a great fighter like Big George from doing the unthinkable.

Would you have given George a chance 7-8 years ago?

And how long can fighters go on for? If a boxer is fit and healhty enough can the just continue and continue?

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Wed May 18, 2011 11:40 pm

No matter how well you look after yourself age will always catch up with you. Speed and reflexes go eventually. The brain might know what to do but the body can't carry it out quick enough.

Can't put an age on it every fighter is different.
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Post by Scottrf Wed May 18, 2011 11:42 pm

The Mosley fight is over, can we stop with this never write off a great fighter stuff now. Wlad.

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Post by D4thincarnation Wed May 18, 2011 11:45 pm

Scottrf wrote:The Mosley fight is over, can we stop with this never write off a great fighter stuff now. Wlad.

Wlad is chinny, Foreman huge punch, it would only take one punch as seen in the Moorer fight.

Do you think a 45 year old Foreman beats Wlad?

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Post by Sugar Boy Sweetie Wed May 18, 2011 11:47 pm

Wlad.

I would never back a slow, old fighter whose only tactic is to bank on landing a lottery punch.
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Post by D4thincarnation Wed May 18, 2011 11:48 pm

Sugar Boy Sweetie wrote:Wlad.

I would never back a slow, old fighter whose only tactic is to bank on landing a lottery punch.

Guess you picked Moorer to beat him as well.

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Post by BALTIMORA Wed May 18, 2011 11:48 pm

Scottrf wrote:The Mosley fight is over, can we stop with this never write off a great fighter stuff now. Wlad.

Couldn't agree more. What next, '82 year old LaMotta vs Margarito arm-wrestling in a bath of liver. Who wins'?

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Post by D4thincarnation Wed May 18, 2011 11:49 pm

How lond do you think Hopkins can continue till he is fifty.

He shows no sign of slowing down

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Post by D4thincarnation Wed May 18, 2011 11:50 pm

http://www.boxingscene.com/george-foreman-wishes-he-faced-wladimir-klitschko--39311

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Wed May 18, 2011 11:51 pm

D4 this is interesting and would make a good article.

And how long can fighters go on for? If a boxer is fit and healhty enough can the just continue and continue?

Don't see where you're coming from with the Wlad/Foreman stuff though.


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Post by Sugar Boy Sweetie Wed May 18, 2011 11:52 pm

D4thincarnation wrote:
Sugar Boy Sweetie wrote:Wlad.

I would never back a slow, old fighter whose only tactic is to bank on landing a lottery punch.

Guess you picked Moorer to beat him as well.

I was a kid at the time, didn't pick either. Foreman got lucky, it happens, but you can't bank on it. Wlad 9 times out of 10.
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Post by D4thincarnation Wed May 18, 2011 11:52 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0SONoA5L1g

Just incase any of you forgot

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Wed May 18, 2011 11:52 pm

D4thincarnation wrote:How lond do you think Hopkins can continue till he is fifty.

He shows no sign of slowing down

He has slowed down though and his reflexes aren't what they used to be. Hopkins is a very intelligent fighter and has learned how to adapt his style to cope with the affects of ageing.
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Post by D4thincarnation Wed May 18, 2011 11:53 pm

prettyboykev wrote:D4 this is interesting and would make a good article.

And how long can fighters go on for? If a boxer is fit and healhty enough can the just continue and continue?

Don't see where you're coming from with the Wlad/Foreman stuuf though.

Foreman has spoke about his regret about it.

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Wed May 18, 2011 11:56 pm

D4thincarnation wrote:
prettyboykev wrote:D4 this is interesting and would make a good article.

And how long can fighters go on for? If a boxer is fit and healhty enough can the just continue and continue?

Don't see where you're coming from with the Wlad/Foreman stuuf though.

Foreman has spoke about his regret about it.

I'm pretty glad he never thought about it at the time because Wlad would have destroyed him. Wlad to win 9/10 imo.
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Post by D4thincarnation Thu May 19, 2011 12:00 am

Lets remember what Wlad was up to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzISYRTl2h0

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Thu May 19, 2011 12:02 am

Fair enough but still 9/10 times Wlad wins imo.
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Post by manos de piedra Thu May 19, 2011 12:05 am

Wlad 99/100. Not even worth discussing.

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Post by HumanWindmill Thu May 19, 2011 9:54 am

Scottrf wrote:The Mosley fight is over, can we stop with this never write off a great fighter stuff now. Wlad.

Agreed and agreed.

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Thu May 19, 2011 9:59 am

If we're honest he got very very lucky against Moorer, was comprehensively outboxed then landed one big right and it was over, not a firm believer in considering lightning striking twice so would have to go for Wlad via boring 12 round decision.

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Post by fearlessBamber Thu May 19, 2011 10:02 am

Foreman would have no chance. He always struggled with movers. Young made him look bad when he was 28.

Wlad would have made a 45 year old Foreman look like a hamburger.

Don't forget the oh so chinny Morrison outboxed him, even though it was not his strength and he kind of "just tried it for that fight".

I don't even think the Foreman who KO2 Frazier is a cert against Wlad.

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Thu May 19, 2011 10:05 am

Oh no the Foreman who beat Frazier demolishes Wlad in a round or two, wouldn't even be competitive

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Post by D4thincarnation Thu May 19, 2011 10:07 am

fearlessBamber wrote:Foreman would have no chance. He always struggled with movers. Young made him look bad when he was 28.

Wlad would have made a 45 year old Foreman look like a hamburger.

Don't forget the oh so chinny Morrison outboxed him, even though it was not his strength and he kind of "just tried it for that fight".

I don't even think the Foreman who KO2 Frazier is a cert against Wlad.

Wlad doesn't move that well. Especially back then

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Post by fearlessBamber Thu May 19, 2011 10:13 am

Foreman is terribly overrated.

In his prime he was good at demolishing guys who were there to be hit early, but looked awful against fighters who could box.

His comeback was a great spectacle, but without hitting the lottery against Moorer, would be little more than a footnote in history.

Would he even be top 10 without the comeback ?

As an aside I would pick a young Foreman to take Wlad out early more often than not.

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Post by DoubleD22 Thu May 19, 2011 10:14 am

The foreman that Ko'ed Fraizer would destroy Wlad for sure, back then he was one of the most devastating heavyweights going! But id have to agree an older slower 45+ George Foreman would get jabbed to death and lose to Wlad.

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Post by The Galveston Giant Thu May 19, 2011 10:15 am

Wlad beats a 55 year old Foreman but i doubt he beats a younger Foreman, would expect Wlad to be twitchy and nervous about Foremans power, Foreman KO 4.
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Post by fearlessBamber Thu May 19, 2011 10:15 am

Wlad doesn't move that well. Especially back then

True - testes / glints in eyes / immature ovums are rubbish boxers.

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Post by D4thincarnation Thu May 19, 2011 10:22 am

Ok most of you seem to be picking Wlad to beat the 55 year old Foreman.

At what age would it be tipping in Foreman's favour?

50,45, 40, 35?

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Post by azania Thu May 19, 2011 10:25 am

This is stupid. Why is anyone even discussing this?

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Post by Lumbering_Jack Thu May 19, 2011 12:22 pm

Another WUM article to big up Manny...

Never write off a great fighter, nonsense.

How long can this seriously continue.

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Post by Small Time Thu May 19, 2011 4:37 pm

Out of interest, why Wlad?

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Post by D4thincarnation Thu May 19, 2011 5:23 pm

Small Time wrote:Out of interest, why Wlad?

Foreman said he wished he faced Wlad when he was 55 years old, probably because Wlad is chinny.

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Post by J.Benson II Thu May 19, 2011 8:22 pm

D4thincarnation wrote:
Small Time wrote:Out of interest, why Wlad?

Foreman said he wished he faced Wlad when he was 55 years old, probably because Wlad is chinny.

Too be fair, Foreman says alot of things.
He also said in 2005 that Audley Harrison would knock out Vitali Klitschko in 6 rounds and go on to rule the HW division.

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Thu May 19, 2011 8:35 pm

J.Benson II wrote:
D4thincarnation wrote:
Small Time wrote:Out of interest, why Wlad?

Foreman said he wished he faced Wlad when he was 55 years old, probably because Wlad is chinny.

Too be fair, Foreman says alot of things.
He also said in 2005 that Audley Harrison would knock out Vitali Klitschko in 6 rounds and go on to rule the HW division.

He also said the lean mean fat reducing grilling machines were so good he put his name on it. Very Happy
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Post by BALTIMORA Thu May 19, 2011 8:46 pm

He also named all five of his sons 'George'...

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Post by WelshDevilRob Thu May 19, 2011 9:00 pm

Foremans five fights in one night is great.

Thing is with this fight, Wlad would fight the sameway he always does rather than steaming in and taking the old fella out. Wlad knows he has to protect his glass jaw at all costs.

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