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Post by Ent Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:45 pm

First topic message reminder :

Mancini was terrible, how I wish he was still there.

Should have walked the league the last 2 years with the squad he had and gotten out of his cl groups.

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Post by Guest Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:59 pm

£24m. That was different. RVP was the top striker domestically & about to join Man City. Ferguson had to act & act fast, regardless of price. Ferguson also was working on the short term, as secretly, he knew retirement was around the corner.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:00 pm

The Special Juan wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:There is also that John, is £19mil value for money for a 28 year old?

How much was RVP?

Different level of player though isn't he as well as being bought off a rival, there weren't many better forwards in world football but there are plenty of better midfielders. As it goes i'd have liked us to have signed Cabaye but with us being so heavily linked to Kroos and Gundogan I don't see him as a long term option. He's not better than Carrick so £19mil for a squad player is a lot of money to spend.

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Post by GSC Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:01 pm

Sorry, I'd have Cabaye over Carrick anyday tbh. I think hes pretty average.
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Post by The Special Juan Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:06 pm

Suppose so, I think you're both right.
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Post by mystiroakey Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:11 pm

Olly wrote:
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Cardiff were losing to a team better than stoke today in Norwich. They were getting battered(Much harder than what man united did to them midweek) An inexperienced Cardiff manager brought on Zaha that changed the game completely and they won the game...


Right a couple of things.
1. We are not better than Stoke, we're probably on a par with Fulham for worst side in the league.
2. We didn't batter them bar the first 5 minutes or so.
3. We gifted the goals on a plate to Cardiff, totally chucked it away. Zaha made a little difference, but he wasn't the reason Cardiff won that game. The reasons were pur inept management, shambplic defending and then Marshall who went all beast mode

well I watched the game mate and zaha totally changed the game- the impact he had was noticeable from the first second he stepped on the pitch.. He also got man of the match!! and only played 50 minutes..

If zaha hadn't come on- would you have still lost?

just in those 7 minutes first half he changed the whole attitude of th team and he was bursting into the box. Then when the team come back from the break he supplied a great through ball to assist . He then seconds later got back in the postion and put one on a plate for someone. Then he did it again and they won a corner.. which they scored from..

Now dont get me wrong you could have still won the game if it wasnt for marshall or Hougtons late subs,. or just luck!!- as you started threatening when you brought Redmond on.,. But Cardiff wouldn't have threatened you the way they were playing before Zaha came on, I doubt they would have even cored a goal..

also in regards to what team is better- Norwich were on 24 pts before today- stoke were on 22.. That is why you were a better team than them. NO agendas- no bias - just fact based on where you are in the league

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:16 pm

mystiroakey wrote:
Olly wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:


Cardiff were losing to a team better than stoke today in Norwich. They were getting battered(Much harder than what man united did to them midweek) An inexperienced Cardiff manager brought on Zaha that changed the game completely and they won the game...


Right a couple of things.
1. We are not better than Stoke, we're probably on a par with Fulham for worst side in the league.
2. We didn't batter them bar the first 5 minutes or so.
3. We gifted the goals on a plate to Cardiff, totally chucked it away. Zaha made a little difference, but he wasn't the reason Cardiff won that game. The reasons were pur inept management, shambplic defending and then Marshall who went all beast mode

well I watched the game mate and zaha totally changed the game- the impact he had was noticeable from the first second he stepped on the pitch.. He also got man of the match!! and only played 50 minutes..

If zaha hadn't come on- would you have still lost?

just in those 7 minutes first half he changed the whole attitude of th team and he was bursting into the box. Then when the team come back from the break he supplied a great through ball to assist . He then seconds later got back in the postion and put one on a plate for someone. Then he did it again and they won a corner.. which they scored from..

Now dont get me wrong you could have still won the game if it wasnt for marshall or Hougtons late subs,. or just luck!!- as you started threatening when you brought Redmond on.,. But Cardiff wouldn't have threatened you the way they were playing before Zaha came on, I doubt they would have even cored a goal..


Trust me we'd have conceded whether he was on the pitch or not. He did well when he came on, but nothing special. I'd expect most premier league footballers to make that pass for the 1st goal.

Why we didn't bring Redmond/Fer on sooner I'll never know. Gutierrez is useless going forward, basically just a defender on the wing and Bradley Johnson is just abysmal.

Unless other teams seriously screw up I cannot see us staying up. At most I see us getting 32/33 pts
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Post by mystiroakey Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:18 pm

he still looked like the best outfield player on the pitch  and deservedly won MOTM.(although i may have been inclined to give it to Marshall)

Redmond also looked very good and totally changed you like Zaha changed them - but only played 15 mins.

Your manager is clueless mate.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:22 pm

mystiroakey wrote:he still looked like the best outfield player on the pitch  and deservedly won MOTM.(although i may have been inclined to give it to Marshall)

Redmond also looked very good and totally changed you like Zaha changed them - but only played 15 mins.

Your manager is clueless mate.

You don't have to tell me Mysti, most sane Norwich fans have been saying it for ages. Most were willing to give him a chance this summer to build his own team, but its just turned into a shambles and the board are afraid to overrule McNally and sack him, while McNally won't because he hired the clueless buffoon in the first place.

I'm so angry I don't even have words. Cannot understand how some still think he's the man to take the club forward!!!!
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Post by Guest Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:23 pm

Norwich's last 4 games: Liverpool (h) Man Utd (a) Chelsea (a) and Arsenal at home.

Absolutely horrific set of fixtures.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:29 pm

Jesus they need the points quick then..

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:34 pm

FreekShow wrote:Norwich's last 4 games: Liverpool (h) Man Utd (a) Chelsea (a) and Arsenal at home.

Absolutely horrific set of fixtures.

Yep and City at home next.

So we pretty much have 9 games to get 13-16 points. Will take a minor miracle
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Post by Guest Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:36 pm

Doesn't look great Olly agreed.

But you never know.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:39 pm

You may only need another 11 pts to be safe . And I can't see how palace are going to git them either tbh. Add another 5 teams to that as well who need more.

It could end up being a 6 way tie at the bottom with only goal difference separating us.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:44 pm

http://www.wrathofthebarclay.co.uk/interactive/board/mobile-message.php?pid=2217056

That's a little post on the failings at our club.

We are pretty much relying on others to screw up now, and they might. But for the life of me I can't see us getting ourselves out of this.

If we can keep it to under 5 against city next week I'll be shocked
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Post by Bull Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:44 pm

Champagne_Socialist wrote:This post was made by Hammersmith harrier who is currently on your ignore list

Why do you keep posting this?

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Post by Guest Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:48 pm

It astonishes me that Hughton has not been sacked. He can't get anything out of these players, he's just relying on the shi*ness of the surrounding teams. Hooper, Van Wolfwinkel (did it for sporting & in the europa league), Fer, Redmond, Howson etc, etc. The quality is there, it just needs motivating & managing properly. Think it needs a young, exciting, positive manager in there, maybe european style. Hughton is stuck in the dumb days, his ideas are old, ponders about, reactive instead of being pro-active. Norwich, as a squad, especially offensively, should be way further up the table compared to where they are now. Don't react now, it will be too late with those fixtures in april/may

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:00 pm

John wrote:It astonishes me that Hughton has not been sacked. He can't get anything out of these players, he's just relying on the shi*ness of the surrounding teams. Hooper, Van Wolfwinkel (did it for sporting & in the europa league), Fer, Redmond, Howson etc, etc. The quality is there, it just needs motivating & managing properly. Think it needs a young, exciting, positive manager in there, maybe european style. Hughton is stuck in the dumb days, his ideas are old, ponders about, reactive instead of being pro-active. Norwich, as a squad, especially offensively, should be way further up the table compared to where they are now. Don't react now, it will be too late with those fixtures in april/may

Pretty much spot on John  thumbsup 

I see it a little like the AVB situation at Spurs. A manager who can't inspire the players, trying to get players he's brought to fit his system when they don't, and then doesn't have a plan B when it all goes wrong.

We need someone to come in and allow the undoubted attacking talent we have to flourish.

It's been obvious for ages he should be sacked, he won't be. I have it on good authority members of the board (Bowkett and Wynn Jones (delia's hubby)) wanted him sacked ages ago, but McNally won't admit Hughton isn't the man to take us forward as he appointed him.
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Post by The Special Juan Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:39 pm

Jeezus this was pretty much a full strength team.
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Post by The Special Juan Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:43 pm

Charlie Adam still the world's best player I see.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:47 pm

As bad as Norwich are, at least I can take solace in Tom Cleverley not playing for my team
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Post by Fernando Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:49 pm

Laugh Give it 6 months Olly, United like to loan to Championship sides  Whistle 

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Post by Guest Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:51 pm

Olly wrote:As bad as Norwich are, at least I can take solace in Tom Cleverley not playing for my team

He's odds on at 1/2 to make the world cup squad. Maybe I am missing something?

http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/en-gb/betting/e/5321766/sp/Tom-Cleverley---To-Make-the-England-2014-World-Cup-Squad.html

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Post by The Special Juan Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:52 pm

Fernando wrote:Laugh Give it 6 months Olly, United like to loan to Championship sides  Whistle 

Very Happy That's cheered me up, thanks!!
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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:55 pm

united have lost 1/3 of their epl games this season having lost 8 games out of 24.

What has happened to United?

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:56 pm

Moyes

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Post by The Special Juan Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:57 pm

mystiroakey wrote:Moyes

y u h8 moyz? i cri evriteim
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Post by mystiroakey Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:58 pm

Me no hate moyes.

Just telling da facts

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Post by Fernando Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:58 pm

The Special Juan wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:Moyes

y u h8 moyz?

Wilfried "Daughter Banger" Zaha.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:58 pm

Ok I admit it. He slept with my mum

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:59 pm

This is pathetic by the toon...

Sunderland playing very nice though

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Post by The Special Juan Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:01 pm

Fernando wrote:
The Special Juan wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:Moyes

y u h8 moyz?

Wilfried "Daughter Banger" Zaha.

Oooooooooooh. That explains it.
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Post by The Special Juan Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:02 pm

Oh, sorry for the atrocious grammar above. I've been reading too many spoderman parodies.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:04 pm

Fernando wrote:Laugh Give it 6 months Olly, United like to loan to Championship sides  Whistle 

We only loan over 30's has beens Nando come on now #jonastime
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Post by Guest Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:04 pm

mystiroakey wrote:Ok I admit it. He slept with my mum

I just knew she was cheating on me. Mysti, you are grounded.

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Post by Fernando Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:06 pm

Olly wrote:
Fernando wrote:Laugh Give it 6 months Olly, United like to loan to Championship sides  Whistle 

We only loan over 30's has beens Nando come on now #jonastime

Gotta open the options up in the Championship Wink

Jonas > Me > My Cousin with one leg > Cleverley

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:07 pm

Just realised why we lost.

Never recovered from the shock of seeing Bradley Johnson play a pass to a teammate
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Post by Guest Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:09 pm

Ruddy has to be taking care of that.

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Post by Fernando Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:10 pm

Yeah that's poor goalkeeping and even more bad defending at the corner for the 2nd

#InbredIssues

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:11 pm

Craig Bellamy can suck my d!ck as well as David Marshall

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On reflection today couldn't have gone much worse
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Post by Guest Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:12 pm

Olly wrote:Craig Bellamy can suck my d!ck as well as David Marshall

Muppet

On reflection today couldn't have gone much worse

I dunno. Your reputation was enhanced with 2 good tips.

I owe you one  thumbsup

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Post by Fernando Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:13 pm

The highlights are making Norwich look better then Olly has suggested?

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:13 pm

They played really well first 30 and last 15

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:14 pm

FreekShow wrote:
Olly wrote:Craig Bellamy can suck my d!ck as well as David Marshall

Muppet

On reflection today couldn't have gone much worse

I dunno. Your reputation was enhanced with 2 good tips.

I owe you one  thumbsup

I didn't even follow me own tips Freeky. Sums it up
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Post by Guest Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:33 pm

mystiroakey wrote:This is pathetic by the toon...

To be fair to Pardew, he's been fu**ed this week by Joke Kinnear & Ashley. He also went into the derby game without Cabaye, Remy, Gouffran & Coloccini. Take four established first team players out of the teams in the bottom half.

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Post by Guest Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:35 pm

That is a beauty by Rodriguez.

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Post by Ent Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:40 pm

Had a long post typed and lost it, essentially fed up with moyes.

He has 3 of the best players in the league and 2 of the best 3 players from last season.

Yet he sends out a team poorly prepared and set up like retards every damn week.

Away to stoke who can't score and have 1/18 points.

We leave free men on the edge of the box against longs balls.

Our less talented younger players are getting worse instead of better.

Stop making excuses and sort it out or get out.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:41 pm

Still dunno how we contrived to lose at home to Fulham. They're absolute Poopie
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Post by Guest Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:46 pm

Harsh red card.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:46 pm

Still dunno how that's a red card for Carroll.

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Post by Duty281 Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:35 am

I wrote the other week about nothing going right for Moyes, and today he's lost 2-1, the goals conceded being one hugeeeee deflection and one fabulous strike. Nothing going right.

But then if you will play Ashley Young...

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